Super ringmaster
#101
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AJ Sun,
Good to see the work in progress! Finally getting my heart issues under control, while they are still figuring out whether I was hit with a virus to my heart muscle, or what!! Plane and engines are finally back on my work table, and I am building a mounting rig to test run the two K&B engines! Hopefully all is now almost back on track!!
aaganz
Good to see the work in progress! Finally getting my heart issues under control, while they are still figuring out whether I was hit with a virus to my heart muscle, or what!! Plane and engines are finally back on my work table, and I am building a mounting rig to test run the two K&B engines! Hopefully all is now almost back on track!!
aaganz
#102
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Aaganz well glad to hear that! Got my MRI next week. To see just what happened, good luck with your K&B runs. I called Brodak today to see my progress only have five special tank builds ahead of my tank. So possibly a week from this Monday. They must be building a special tank every few days. Plus keeping up with their stock tanks they sell off the catalog. I bought an engine test rig, sure like it really universal for several applications.keep them lines tite! AJ
#103
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AJ Sun,
Some delay here....but an open question?? I have an unopened "jug" (32 oz) of Brodak Fuel BF-1208 (5% Nitro, 29% Castor) bought last year and still sitting. How long will it remain "ok" for running my K&B 29?
I contacted Brodak, but no reply yet.
aaganz
Some delay here....but an open question?? I have an unopened "jug" (32 oz) of Brodak Fuel BF-1208 (5% Nitro, 29% Castor) bought last year and still sitting. How long will it remain "ok" for running my K&B 29?
I contacted Brodak, but no reply yet.
aaganz
#104

I cannot speak to Brodak fuel but what I have has been sitting partially closed for 5 plus years and seem to run just fine. It can't hurt to run it unless somehow the oil content evaporated.
#105
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Hey guys I’ve been side tracked with my medical issues just went thru my fourth MRI having to use a walker. Got my next appointment on Monday the third. Any way I store all my fuel in the fridge. It’s a shop fridge. It last forever if you keep it out of the heat. When I fly I strain and place the fuel in a clean quart can. Never use a plastic jug. If I have any unused I just pour it back in the fridge jug. Also use a filter on serenge. When .I load my plane. Always works good. Keep them lines tite.AJ
#106
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Oh man guys another issue I forgot to mention. This happened a few weeks ago. I was running my Fox 59 the engine I am using on my 45 Flying Fool. It spit fuel out of the Venturi and it hit my left eye. Man talk about burn. Tried to flush it out with warm water. Hurt like hell eye swelled up. Got to go to the local eye doctor and it’s okay but he gave me some eye grease to help it heel. Have to use it three times a day, after a week it’s lots better. New deal. I wear protective glasses any time I work on my hobby. Don’t care what I am doing, I wear them glasses. Keep them lines tite AJ
#107
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All.
I am setting up the test runs of my K&B 19 and K&B


29. I bought this clip set to attach to the Glo Plug while flipping the propeller.
How does it attach and stay connected????? I don't see how this is a secure connection...as a boy, we used alligator clips as I remember!!
Any advice??? check the pix attached! Thanks
aaganz
I am setting up the test runs of my K&B 19 and K&B


29. I bought this clip set to attach to the Glo Plug while flipping the propeller.
How does it attach and stay connected????? I don't see how this is a secure connection...as a boy, we used alligator clips as I remember!!
Any advice??? check the pix attached! Thanks
aaganz
#109
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I checked further on some YouTubes and then saw how to attach the clip to the engine! The "clue" was that the lower clip goes into the fins on the side of the cylinder, and can wrap around the through bolts of the engine head. This wasn't obvious when I started! Check out the pix in this note!
aaganz

aaganz

#110
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All,
I have just checked my (new to me!) K&B 19 and K&B 29. The Glo Plug in the 29 is "glowing fine, but the Glo Plug in my K&B 19 shows no glow at all.
What is a good source to buy more K&B Glo Plugs??? What is the threading?? Are the plugs for the 19 and 29 the same? Can I just interchange them temporarily?
I see plugs on various web sites, but have no clue if these would fit or are with matching threads!
Thanks for any help and/or assistance!
aaganz
I have just checked my (new to me!) K&B 19 and K&B 29. The Glo Plug in the 29 is "glowing fine, but the Glo Plug in my K&B 19 shows no glow at all.
What is a good source to buy more K&B Glo Plugs??? What is the threading?? Are the plugs for the 19 and 29 the same? Can I just interchange them temporarily?
I see plugs on various web sites, but have no clue if these would fit or are with matching threads!
Thanks for any help and/or assistance!
aaganz
#111
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Senior Member
Ya I hear ya. Most glow plugs unless the motor head been modified will.work all are fine thread. On our glow plug motors. Sig, mecoa,, os, and Fox are all the same to my knowledge. Keep them.lines time! AJ
#112
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AJ, et al,
My new K&B Glo Plug seems physically smaller than the original one on my K&B 19, but it glows, and the threads seem to fit. We'll see!!
I tried firing the engine up in a test stand outside today, and I got some "snaps", but nothing sustained! Soooooo...... keep trying ??, or look at one of those "starters:" that Brodak sells??
aaganz
My new K&B Glo Plug seems physically smaller than the original one on my K&B 19, but it glows, and the threads seem to fit. We'll see!!
I tried firing the engine up in a test stand outside today, and I got some "snaps", but nothing sustained! Soooooo...... keep trying ??, or look at one of those "starters:" that Brodak sells??
aaganz
#113
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AJ, et all,
I posted this question in the Control Line Forum, but had no responses yet/ Maybe you can help?...
I want to buy an electric power starter for my Super Ringmaster with K&B 19 and K&B 29 engines. The plans show a 2 inch spinner, but I see millions of different spinners on the Brodak and Amazon sites and elsewhere.
Any guidance from you all?? I want the spinner to fit both the plane and the starter "cone"???
Thanks,
aaganz
I posted this question in the Control Line Forum, but had no responses yet/ Maybe you can help?...
I want to buy an electric power starter for my Super Ringmaster with K&B 19 and K&B 29 engines. The plans show a 2 inch spinner, but I see millions of different spinners on the Brodak and Amazon sites and elsewhere.
Any guidance from you all?? I want the spinner to fit both the plane and the starter "cone"???
Thanks,
aaganz
#114
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AJ, et all,
I think I found what I needed. I ordered DU-272 from Brodak which is a " "Spinner 2 " White 2 Blade for $8.95". Unfortunately the shipping cost is $15.99 additional!! We'll see how it fits!
aaganz
I think I found what I needed. I ordered DU-272 from Brodak which is a " "Spinner 2 " White 2 Blade for $8.95". Unfortunately the shipping cost is $15.99 additional!! We'll see how it fits!
aaganz
#115
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Senior Member
Ya it’s a nice option when starting. But my old school attitude,I know it’s a virus. I shy away from using a starter, oh I have one, but it collects dust mostly. And as far as battery clips go, I use the old style clips, and a small clip for the plug and use heat shrink to protect from shorting out if it hits the head, instant plug burn up. I use a power reducer to one point five volt. To start my Fox Stunt engines. I was test running my 59 I plan on using it in my project Flying Fool 45. It spit fuel in my left eye, caused an infection, now I use shop glasses to protect my eyes. Don’t know why my 59 spits fuel out of the Venturi. My 35 Stunt engines don’t do that. The 59 is the First slant plug engine I own. I got a three inch spinner for that 45 Fool really looks nice when installed. Aluminum spinner, plan on a 12/4 to 8 prop, bought one of each all maple props. Have to do some testing if and when I get to fly. Not this year but possibly next year. See how my Back does? Hey guys keep them lines tite! AJ
#116
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AJ Sun,
Thanks for all the good information! My spinner, starter, and battery have all arrived, and I will shortly "fire" them up on my worktable!! We needed a week for an emergency trip to Ohio for my brother's funeral. All home projects are know in "restart" mode.
Best wishes on your pending back surgery! I had L4-L5 Fusion in 2003 and am much stronger now!!
aaganz
Thanks for all the good information! My spinner, starter, and battery have all arrived, and I will shortly "fire" them up on my worktable!! We needed a week for an emergency trip to Ohio for my brother's funeral. All home projects are know in "restart" mode.
Best wishes on your pending back surgery! I had L4-L5 Fusion in 2003 and am much stronger now!!
aaganz
#117
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Senior Member
Gosh AZ sorry to hear about your brother! My bride got her Stitches removed yesterday and Bridak called me about my fuel tank for my 45 Flying Fool. I've had it on order sense December 2024. Looks like Nick will finally build it. Apparently two other UC guys are also uilding the 45 Flying Fool. But the tank they ordered was much different from what I wanted. I think maybe the other guys were inverting their engine. Mine is 59 fox up right. So my tank would be different. I wanted to know about the other 45s but Brodak would not share that info
also asked Nick if they flushed out the tank after they soldiered it, he said oh ya the acid causes corrosion. I took the precaution and flushed the tanks with MEK and Alcohaul. Brodak uses a solvent to wash out acid. Good to know. So my world will be on hold, up to 12 weeks. After the 8th. Of April. Glad your process went well. Keep them lines titeAJ
also asked Nick if they flushed out the tank after they soldiered it, he said oh ya the acid causes corrosion. I took the precaution and flushed the tanks with MEK and Alcohaul. Brodak uses a solvent to wash out acid. Good to know. So my world will be on hold, up to 12 weeks. After the 8th. Of April. Glad your process went well. Keep them lines titeAJ
#118
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Aagaz one issueI forgot to mention learned t b is from an old timer. I use a soup can painted black inside. Have a small hole that fits our glow plugs. The spring on most plugs has a covering. That makes them glow bright red. In that can a plug is dull not bright red the plug will not fire the fuel mixture. Most plugs have three ranges of heat and brightness. Dull medium and bright. Always use a bright range on UC engines. Some plugs have idle bars. Never use idle bars on a glow UC engine. Thought I would share! Keep them lines tite.AJ
#119
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Well IVe been in this recoupe mode sense my back surgery, been a month now, getting better. I’ve been working on my UC projects got three in the works. My Flying Fool 45, Veco Tom Tom, and my S-6 Super Ringmaster. All in different stages of assembly. Running out of space! Ya think! The closes to complete is my S-6 built a top tank cowl but it fit better on my Veco Tom Tom. So back to the drawing board on my S-6 and doing a new top tank cowl. My Fool is coming along got the fuselage about done lots of sanding. These three aircraft really help me. In my recoupe from this Back surgery. Hey guys keep them lines straight and tight!AJ
#120
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Gosh this web site has sure gotten quiet, Hess no body building, still did a little this morning. Haven’t had a back spazin all day that’s good I am going to try to get off my meds and see what happens. Took a knapsack this am. Wife rented a special chair. And it goes back Thursday. So things are getting better slow process. On my UC projects but I am hoping to get to fly something by July. Still a slow recovery process, really not wanting to push it. Walked 100 yards this am but had to take that nap. Still kinda tired! Hey guys keep them lines tight and straight. AJ
#121
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AJ Sun,
Glad to hear you are doing well in recovery!!
I'm having trouble trying to fit on (screw in) the 2 inch spinner for my Super Ringmaster! I found I needed a 3/32 inch Allen Wrench to seat the tiny connecting screws, but can't get them lined up well with the prop. I have to line them up perfectly before tightening down the crankshaft nut, but that's almost impossible!
Any ideas??
aaganz
Glad to hear you are doing well in recovery!!
I'm having trouble trying to fit on (screw in) the 2 inch spinner for my Super Ringmaster! I found I needed a 3/32 inch Allen Wrench to seat the tiny connecting screws, but can't get them lined up well with the prop. I have to line them up perfectly before tightening down the crankshaft nut, but that's almost impossible!
Any ideas??
aaganz
#122
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Ya ajjza I think I know what your talking about the Allen is a crazy size. I've got several Allen wrenches but the one that fit the best was one I got from a wheel collar set. That secures my wheels.the spinner is on my 45 flying fool. Four at an angle to secure the prop.spinner. two would not line up until I tried a different hole in the back.plate. seems the four Allen's are matched to a one of four holes in the back.plate. been working on my cover for my 580 fuel tank on my Super Ringmaster. Trying to get it ready for the October Brotherhood Ringmaster cfun fly. Glad to hear from ya. Seems like I was posting. Seen guys were reading it but not responding. Keep.them lines straight and tightAJ.
one other thing lI also had to rotate the spinner mine will only go on the back plate one way. Scribe on the spinner and back plate. So it will.line up. Securing the prop.nut was not a problem and it really fits well. Thought about using locktite on the threads but felt I would strip out the threads. Just better to check them after every flight. I do that anyway, especially the engine 4 mount screws. Learned that deal with experience.
one other thing lI also had to rotate the spinner mine will only go on the back plate one way. Scribe on the spinner and back plate. So it will.line up. Securing the prop.nut was not a problem and it really fits well. Thought about using locktite on the threads but felt I would strip out the threads. Just better to check them after every flight. I do that anyway, especially the engine 4 mount screws. Learned that deal with experience.
Last edited by AJ Sun; 05-14-2025 at 02:37 PM.
#123
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AJ Sun, et al,
Spinner finally set in! The side cut outs were slightly misaligned, so the spinner did not seat directly onto the back plate! No wonder I was having trouble!! A little work with a metal file on the plastic edges worked wonders, and it all seated over the crankcase nut, and the 2 alignment mounting screws lined up perfectly. Tightened them down with a 3/32 Allen Wrench, All tight!!
As soon as the rain lets up, I can run up the engine on its test bed outside!!
aaganz
Spinner finally set in! The side cut outs were slightly misaligned, so the spinner did not seat directly onto the back plate! No wonder I was having trouble!! A little work with a metal file on the plastic edges worked wonders, and it all seated over the crankcase nut, and the 2 alignment mounting screws lined up perfectly. Tightened them down with a 3/32 Allen Wrench, All tight!!
As soon as the rain lets up, I can run up the engine on its test bed outside!!
aaganz
#124
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aaganz! Ya my spinner only goes on one way. Or them small holes just will not line up. Even the small Allen head screws go into a certain hole. So I marked the spinner and hub and make sure I don’t mess up what screw goes where. Darn I’ve tried and tried to cut my wind screen and heat it to fit my Super Ringmaster. Still don’t look right. I need to order some thinner clear assitate, but can’t find any. Seems like nobody is carrying it any more. Sig has the thick stuff. I’ve got that. Been looking at a plastic soda bottle. Looks like a quart bottle just might work. Also one of my old fuel bottles just might be a winner. I’ve also looked at what Brodak offers they got several plastic canapies. Just might look at that again. Keep them Lines straight and tight! AJ
#125
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AJSun,
Still here!
We have been much delayed by household projects, including a full house revamp for full house AC. Turned out to be a big project. My K&B 19 is still on its test rig on my worktable, ready to be run. I hope to get there over the 4th of July break, now that other items are "off the punch list"!!
aaganz
Still here!
We have been much delayed by household projects, including a full house revamp for full house AC. Turned out to be a big project. My K&B 19 is still on its test rig on my worktable, ready to be run. I hope to get there over the 4th of July break, now that other items are "off the punch list"!!
aaganz


