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Old 11-07-2014, 01:06 PM
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#18. "RE: COMBAT CARNAGE IN TEXAS...?"
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[TD="class: dclite, width: 100%"]I am sure most all are familiar with the arrangement of the flying site at Muncie. Also that the site has a major high voltage transmission line running across the property over near the west edge.

A few years ago one of the combat flyers, Stubby as I recall, had a 1/2A model cut loose. It flew away dragging a lot of the lines. When it got to the power lines over near the HQs building, we saw a flash and a cloud of brown smoke, followed a few seconds later by the large bang. The model ended up in the lake out front, I was told.

I spoke to some folks who were working inside and they were totally unaware of it happening: didn't hear the explosion, didn't even flicker the lights.




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[TD="class: dclite, colspan: 2"]#20. "RE: COMBAT CARNAGE IN TEXAS...?"
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Fri Nov-07-14 08:42 PM by Cowboystunt1
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[TD="class: dclite, width: 100%"]As I remember it the incident occurred at the LAST Reno Nats and did shut down a large part of the City's electrical system for several hours.
I can't believe this really happened that many times!

The worst thing I'v seen happen here in Tucson with flyawayss was a cut away hit Larry Scarinzi's Rented Car in the parking lot, and that was after the shut off rule was in place!

How stories do grow in number
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:58 PM
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LOL,, how many different accounts in how many cities are we up to???

The more you post, the more it's obvious it started out as some bench talk BS that guys have turned into legend status and run with for years,,

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Old 11-07-2014, 03:51 PM
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More to come.
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lol,,, ok
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The only thing that's obvious is that you aren't man enough to admit that it happened...more than just once.
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Dang, I'm crushed, where's my tissues?
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Next time you shoot your mouth off, make sure that you are working with a full load..
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John "sparky" Welsh earned his nickname by blowing a few transformers in north San Antonio 18 or so years ago. We were flying at the local high school and Bob Sawyer flew a couple passes through the high voltage wires. Not to be outdone john tried a pass, caught a wire, and the wire swung up and back and flopped it over the top of another wire after releasing his plane. BIG BOOMS followed as several transformers blew. Power went out, Plane was unharmed. John packed up and quietly left . A couple of days later John walked into the hobby shop and Bob gave him a hearty "Hey hows it going Sparky" as a greeting.
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Originally Posted by 2walla
John "sparky" Welsh earned his nickname by blowing a few transformers in north San Antonio 18 or so years ago. We were flying at the local high school and Bob Sawyer flew a couple passes through the high voltage wires. Not to be outdone john tried a pass, caught a wire, and the wire swung up and back and flopped it over the top of another wire after releasing his plane. BIG BOOMS followed as several transformers blew. Power went out, Plane was unharmed. John packed up and quietly left . A couple of days later John walked into the hobby shop and Bob gave him a hearty "Hey hows it going Sparky" as a greeting.

I doubt I could duplicate that with year's worth of practice...!
I would never guess that the wires can be jostled enough to collide with each other.
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hey combatpig i saw a similar incident at a cl contest. after a kill flying combat flyer was doing figure eights trying to fly out the tank. somehow he let the handle go and instead of going straight to the ground the plane rose up with lines and handle dangling for a few seconds and then crashed
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Rebuild it? Just buff it out and go fly.
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Originally Posted by L8cruiser
This crash was due to inexperience , high winds , low altitude and too far out. It used to be a Tower Hobbies 60 Trainer. I now have my first crash under my belt .
Can definitely be rebuilt . Send me $100.00 and I will send you the instructions on how to rebuild it. Actually the instructions tell you where to put the first part ! LOL
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Originally Posted by combatpigg
I doubt I could duplicate that with year's worth of practice...!
I would never guess that the wires can be jostled enough to collide with each other.
i wouldn't have thought a model plane would be enough to do that. Power lines are heavy.
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A 5 or 6 pound plane traveling 70 - 80 mph packs X amount of knock down power. I'm curious right now to find out how to solve that.
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7000 grains /pound
5 pound plane
35,000 grains
80 mph = 117 feet per second

result is 1064 ft lb force or 1443 joules, based on a projectile calculator. A more advanced calculator factors in the diameter of the "bullet".
It's amazing how any part of a model engine can survive this.
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For your first crash, YOU DID IT RIGHT!
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Originally Posted by combatpigg
7000 grains /pound
5 pound plane
35,000 grains
80 mph = 117 feet per second

result is 1064 ft lb force or 1443 joules, based on a projectile calculator. A more advanced calculator factors in the diameter of the "bullet".
It's amazing how any part of a model engine can survive this.
That is about half the muzzle energy of a 30.06 slug so a lot of energy! L8cruiser's photos are amazing and you can even see where the fuel had to go around the engine before it hit the pavement.
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Originally Posted by thailazer
That is about half the muzzle energy of a 30.06 slug so a lot of energy! L8cruiser's photos are amazing and you can even see where the fuel had to go around the engine before it hit the pavement.
I just got done reading [the opinion of a hunting outfitter] that a 30.06 is rated OK for all North American game except for the largest bears.
To think that a 30.06 has limitations with ANY wild game is pretty amazing.
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Depend's on ware you kit him and the distance to the target, and how fast you can run

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L8cruiser be proud. You will have many crashes is this hobby but that will be your best carnage.
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Originally Posted by L8cruiser
This crash was due to inexperience , high winds , low altitude and too far out. It used to be a Tower Hobbies 60 Trainer. I now have my first crash under my belt .
Whoooeee. If that was your first crash, I can't wait to hear about the next one! Re-build (not this one) and fly again!
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Originally Posted by L8cruiser
This crash was due to inexperience , high winds , low altitude and too far out. It used to be a Tower Hobbies 60 Trainer. I now have my first crash under my belt .
Good job Cruiser! Always nice to read a good honest crash story and not blaming a "glitch"

way to man up! And....I bet you never make that mistake again..

i got some props I can donate to the cause
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That is what we used to call a rekit he he he.........
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L8's crash probably looked a little bit like this! By the way, the wing skins on an F-4 are over 5/8 inch thick, and there are numerous hefty baffles in the wing and struts to distribute fuel loads during high-G maneuvers. The amount of aluminum in that aircraft is mind boggling, but to see it turn to dust so fast is even more so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk
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Originally Posted by combatpigg
7000 grains /pound
5 pound plane
35,000 grains
80 mph = 117 feet per second

result is 1064 ft lb force or 1443 joules, based on a projectile calculator. A more advanced calculator factors in the diameter of the "bullet".
It's amazing how any part of a model engine can survive this.
What is a "grain"?

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