Kiiski:

Thanks. was the receiver.
les

Is anyone using the Spektrum DX6 with the BCP? I have mine going and I can hover it, but still some adjustments to get it where I want it... I will post my settings when I get it dialed if anyone is interested.

Also, I am using the Venom Fireball motor for my main. It has more power and better head speed. Do not try to use it with the stock RX as it will draw too much current and cause a catastrophic mid-flight failure leading to lots of repairs. Don't ask how I know. It works great with a separate ESC though. It does run pretty hot. I am also using the Venom tail motor and have been told that it is made to work with the higher LiPo voltage. So far, it seems better than stock, and it fits the stock mount. Does anyone have any suggestions of other brushed motors that might work?

A friend of mine at work ordered the new CNC Bell-Hiller head for he Balde CP from heli-direct. He had it shipped to work and it arrived today. It sure looks awesome. Very solid with no play in any of the parts. He got it with the CNC tail rotor housing. He's a beginner with about 4 flights, so it'll be a while before he can tell me how it works. Anyone out there try it yet? It sure looks cool with all the blue aluminum. And from my inspection looks like it would be stable as all getout.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_in...oducts_id=1188

Doug

The blue CNC head is friggin' sweet...looking.

Looks a lot better and cooler than the silver one that I've seen. (I think it's the one pwr of cheese has)

I also would like to hear about how it performs.

My immdiate concerns would be the weight differences from the stock (although with the lipos it may not matter as much) and can you get replacement CNC parts for it? (not that anyone would need them...well...I would )

That with the plastiblades or the CF blades would make for a pretty durable head, but then you might need a titanium main shaft to fully survive any crack ups!!

I bought the silver one heli-direct has, and let me tell you...

NEVER AGAIN!

from the word "go" it has been a nightmare. I didn't realize that it didn't come with linkages, and since the Blade CP is different fromt eh esky CP2, you have to get the CP2 control linkages to make it work properly. I found that out after I had made some linkages from the LHS. Once I got it set to go, and got it flying, I used the dirt brakes, and that's when I found out the feathering shaft is made of brass. Yeah, it bent in 2 places, so that it was hard to remove from the head.

I decided to make the stock feathering shaft work in teh head, and well, it does, but not as smooth...

I was better off with the stock head, and bell-hiller upgrade.

Oh, and I broke the main frame lots when first testing because the head is sooo strong that it transferred energy to the main shaft and frame, and it deffinitely was biting my wallet. So now I have a $110 rotor that is sitting in a box full of other "spare parts."

Will I try the new blue head?
nope... I am done... I am now sour on teh experience.
Thankfully, I got the heli-direct airwolf body on it, and I am happy again. I like the look of hte black rotor pars with the carbon blades and airwolf body. It's a lot easier on the eyes...

Also, for anyone thinking of buying the airwolf fuse-

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE AIRWOLF THEME SONG WHILE FLYING!!!!!!

you get way too bold in your maneuvers, and will CRASH!
:-)

well, I did...

on my second airwolf body now, and I can appreciate just flying normal "full scale" patterns. I let my imagination do the playing and keep my fingers under control.

It is fun at the field. People beg me to fly the "airwolf" all the time. I gotta get one for my Raptor 50.

John,

From what I can tell about this new blue head, is that it is plug and play. All the linkages are included. I inspected it yesterday and the swashplate it comes with is the E-Flite aluminum swashplate (which I have). It looks like it slides on the shaft, connect the servo links, and it's on. My only concern would be if you can get individual parts for it. The feathering shaft is supposedly compatible with the stock shaft. This one was designed specifically for the Blade and can be used on the HB CP2, where as I recall, the one you have was the other way around, which would explain the difficulties you had.

I doubt that I will make the $120 plunge, as I am saving my pennies for a Trex 450 SE, and I don't feel like putting any more money into my Blade on upgrades. I already have the Bell-Hiller Mixer, E-Flite aluminum swash, aerobaic upgrade, CF blades, superskids, 1320 TP Lipos, and modified tail fin. So I am really happy with how my Blade is flying. I can't see dumping any more dollars into it when I'm going to be spending over $1K on the new more capable heli. But the blue head and tail motor housing look sweeet. Holding them in my hand yesterday made me "blue" with envy. When I got home last night I went on heli-direct and almost clicked on the BUY button, but I came to my senses.

Doug

My Blade cp just started bouncing up and down. I can get into a hover but the machine jumps up and down like a pogo stick, any ideas. I changed the motors and checked all servo and blade connections, any ideas??

See if your mainshaft slipped. Ya dont want any up/down movement. Maybe the collar above the bearing tower moved. Hey, wind will do it too !!! Man, sometimes i'll be hovering, and all of a sudden the heli will clime 10 feet on me... But I have also had the mainshaft move and that will make it hop too. Also, these heli's have alot of slop in the pitch, so you may want a little positive pitch (maybe 2 degree's) at throttle down. Be sure to lift up on the control tray when checking the pitch, or you will have a ton of negetive pitch when your done, and not know it. That just simulates the heli hanging in the air by the blades. I bet my BCP has 5 degree's of slop in the blade pitch !!! No Problem, just lift up on the control tray, then take your measurment.

Thanks, I checked the mainshaft for slop along with the main shaft retaining collar, to ensure its snug...now the pitch maybe the issue although I have been flying alot and its been hovering rock steady. A product of a 40 x 50 steel building, and no wind. I checked the servo for slop and it seems fine and have not had any serious crashes. I am totally lost here?
Thanks, all info is great info!

Try putting a drop of light oil on the sliding part of the head, and give each pitch link 1 turn CCW if all else fails, that will add pos pitch, and u can always adjust it back later, if ya find something else is causing it.

Have you had any crashes that may have caught the rotors or tail strikes? You may have to pull the spindle (the rod that connects the blade grips) and see if it's bent.

Thanks but no, but I appreciate the ideas and did check this too...I can only figure that its in the 4 in 1 unit...all was fine, landed, charged the battery (li Po) and it started... it acts like a pogo stick, up and down

Well, mine ballons alot, but not with a sudden jerking up and down, and it gives me lotsa of throttle practice.

Check paddle blades for true and lube all moving parts with Triflow.

I dismantled the entire head , drive shaft, bearings, etc, cleaned them up good, lubed them and test flew it. It flew great. I did not really change any pitch, gyro or trimmer pot settings. Just started it up and raised to a hover...no trouble...yet?
Thanks for all the ideas, I suppose I should look at something a little more up scale in the electric now!

Thought I had it figured out but its back again, we will call this manuever the Po Go! Watching
the head closely strapped down on the bench there are involuntary movements, effecting pitch. I even tried to disconnect the servo for pitch control and lock it with some up pitch but it is really busy to fly then.
Any one have a used 1027A, 4 in 1 control unit for sale??

There is no one servo controlling blade pitch on the Blade CP. All three move in combination to control blade pitch, elevator, and aileron control. Is it only the front servo acting up on your Blade? Perhaps you have a bad servo? Or are you talking about pitch (elevator) of the whole helicopter? Again, if it is only one servo acting funny, it could be bad.

Chris

Thanks for the suggestion, the front servo seems to be working fine along with the other two. With both the boom and main motor disconnected, they seem to operate with out any glitches but hook them (motors) both up, and the chopper has a mind of its own. Standing as close as possible to the chopper when hovering I can see uncommanded movements of the front servo.
If all three work in unison to hover then I could only ascertain that the control unit can possibly be bad.
One item that is interesting is at full throttle up, the pitch lessons, com paired to 3/4 throttle, non interfered with where the pitch trim lever is positioned.

Do you have good batteries in the transmitter (if using the stock transmitter)? Just guessing here. Have you moved the receiver antenna? Maybe the antenna wire is broken? It sounds like radio glitches. Are the capacitors securely soldered to the main and tail motors? Make sure your crystal is seated completely in the receiver. Pull it out and reseat it. Make sure there are no wires rubbing on the main shaft and gear. Just some other things to check.

Chris

Since the condition is most evident with motors plugged in I'd suspect their capacitors. Also check tail motor negative (black wire) solder ground to motor case.

Had to run out and check these items closely. Everything is in place, properly soldered, and un-pinched or chafed.
What is strange is I flew it, landed, recharged it and it started acting up. No harsh landing, no abusive maneuvers, just simply hovering practice.
I sent an email to Horizon Hobby tech support for their thoughts too. I really enjoy flying this electric when weather has the nitro flyers hangared!!

Do you have the receiver antenna wrapped around the struts or in contact with any other carbon fiber? It is best to CA a plastic stir stick or better yet r/c antenna tube to the struts and run the antenna through it. This is a common cause of glitching. Not all Blades experience it, but it is common. Another thing to look for is the wire not having good contact inside the 4-in-1. I had one completely fall out and had to resolder it.

I am leaning toward your idea of something loose in the 4 in 1...I have been all over this little chopper, and just do not understand...I just had a successful flight, although all my trims have changed, charging now to try it again and see if there is a repeat. Stands to reason, loose connection, bad solder joint..
The antenna situation is interesting, although I am not convinced this is a glitch from interferrence rather than a potentetial break in a circuit.

The main reason it sounds like a glitch is in order for it to just pop up and down instead of veer suddenly to one side or forward and back it would be a pitch change. Meaning a sudden signal impulse in all three servos. Even though it's worth checking, a bad solder joint would be unlikely to disconnect then reconnect constantly in flight. Either something is sticking somewhere or something is sending false signals.

I have everything reset and its flying like a million dollars...I suspect a intermittant connection though and will need to find it. Its too windy to take it out to really beat it up but in the barn is flyinng as good as I can expect!
Maybe something binding but working now!