E-FLIGHT BLADE CP
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From: Bay Area,
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ORIGINAL: viper10a
So that radio can do both PCM and FM? Also, what about the 8103?
So that radio can do both PCM and FM? Also, what about the 8103?
The 8103 is cool, yes, but not only is it another $150 or so, it's MUCH more complex. The 6102 has a lot of features but its great strength is in its simplicity (kinda like the design of the Blade CP actually, effective and simple...)
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From: Clovis,
CA
i use duratrax ice chargers for my packs. when i have to start really retrimming my heli its getting close, if it wont get off the ground youve gone a little far (for lipos). in my transmitters i use 2500mha energizer nimh's and a radioshack charger.
#1078
I say stick with Futaba... Stay away from the JR's.. You will know what I mean when you go to buy a flight pack or a RX for one. They are ok radios just overpriced in my view. But hey to each his own.
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Helicopters are very interesting machines. In all reality based on physics, they arent even supposed to be able to fly. Kinda of interesting thought....Everytime you fly a heli you are disobeying the laws of physics.
Helicopters are very interesting machines. In all reality based on physics, they arent even supposed to be able to fly. Kinda of interesting thought....Everytime you fly a heli you are disobeying the laws of physics.
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From: St. Simons, GA
Bdavison:
Thanks for the explanation of idle up mode. I have definitely had trouble holding a constant altitude in fast forward flight. If I understand your explication correctly I will have about four degrees of positive pitch at midstick in idle up mode. Would this not mean that I would not have equal positive and negative pitch at full collective. I have read reviews and they always have an idle up setup that is like -10/0/+10. Not that I really need tons of negative pitch at this moment but I guess I am trying to peek over the mountain before I reach the top.
Set up tip:
To balance the blades I used a broken landing skid support and the silicon keepers to secure the blades. It seemed to work well.
Thanks for the explanation of idle up mode. I have definitely had trouble holding a constant altitude in fast forward flight. If I understand your explication correctly I will have about four degrees of positive pitch at midstick in idle up mode. Would this not mean that I would not have equal positive and negative pitch at full collective. I have read reviews and they always have an idle up setup that is like -10/0/+10. Not that I really need tons of negative pitch at this moment but I guess I am trying to peek over the mountain before I reach the top.
Set up tip:
To balance the blades I used a broken landing skid support and the silicon keepers to secure the blades. It seemed to work well.
#1084
rcflyerdave,
Here is the site for the paper bodies for the blade. I downloaded one but haven't put together yet.
http://www.modeltek.com/cobra.html
oppie
Here is the site for the paper bodies for the blade. I downloaded one but haven't put together yet.
http://www.modeltek.com/cobra.html
oppie
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From: 3821 sagebrush rd, TX
hey i just bought on and can't hover very well need some help i was told to buy this to learn to hover .i just got a simulator and can hover ok but iam flying the impala and the watt not i use to own a raptor 30 and could do better with it . but gave up now iam trying once more i just got the sim like i said and this time ill not give up . i also just bought a shogun should i take it back and get a nother raptor to learn to hover help eric spencer
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From: Olympia,
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bluesteel212 :
I bought a replacement from Horizon Hobby part number EFLH1045.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/ and search for that part number.
Try this link.
I bought a replacement from Horizon Hobby part number EFLH1045.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/ and search for that part number.
Try this link.
#1088
Finally pulled off a couple of loops tonight. made three attempts and i made 2 of them and pulled out of 1. can't wait till the new heads and parts arrive.
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From: Warner Robins,
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The pitch curve in the stock radio is something of a mystery. I still havent figured out exactly how they have it set.
At mid stick in idle-up or normal mode there is about +2-4 degrees of pitch (so the heli will stay airborne). When you start going negative, it will go to 0 pitch just a tad below mid-stick and expo's so that at full bottom stick you have between -8 to 10 degrees or so, so you still have equal throws both ways, but the transition point is under mid-stick. The heli is more sensitive on negative collective than on positive due to this.
As far as chargers and batteries.
Im running 1 E-tec 3cell 1250mah lipo.
I charge it on a Great Planes Triton charger at 11.1V 1.2A
Normally one battery is enough. By that time I'm tired of flying and need a break.
At mid stick in idle-up or normal mode there is about +2-4 degrees of pitch (so the heli will stay airborne). When you start going negative, it will go to 0 pitch just a tad below mid-stick and expo's so that at full bottom stick you have between -8 to 10 degrees or so, so you still have equal throws both ways, but the transition point is under mid-stick. The heli is more sensitive on negative collective than on positive due to this.
As far as chargers and batteries.
Im running 1 E-tec 3cell 1250mah lipo.
I charge it on a Great Planes Triton charger at 11.1V 1.2A
Normally one battery is enough. By that time I'm tired of flying and need a break.
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From: Justin,
TX
Well I love my Blade.
I have been hovering around my back yard the last couple of weeks and begain working on figure 8's. I decided to go to a park just down the road and had a great time.
This is my first Heli....I was always scared away by the maintenance and setup problems...
Well since I was having a great time, I decided to try a roll. Did 3 that I had to split "S" out off, and got one really nice.
Then it happend. In the middle of another roll....All hell broke loose. The thing just balled itself up and fell out of the sky. I was high enough I was able to flip back to normal mode and throttle down and start walking before it hit.
It didn't look hard. But when I got there I saw canopy pieces, the main shaft bent and various other broken pieces. It seems that a ball link broke off of a blade pitch thingy (can you tell this is my first heli?) And that was all she wrote.
Now the problem. Well, now I tried to fix it, but the setup is ALL wrong. It will not hover and when it does its all over the place and the tail rotor trim is all the way to one side and still not enough.
The manual sucks in this regard. I have no idea how to set one of these up.
I plan on going to my LHS, where I bought the parts and a glow heli to have them look at it.
But I must say that I am a little upset being a guy with no clue and a broken very fun toy.
I have been hovering around my back yard the last couple of weeks and begain working on figure 8's. I decided to go to a park just down the road and had a great time.
This is my first Heli....I was always scared away by the maintenance and setup problems...
Well since I was having a great time, I decided to try a roll. Did 3 that I had to split "S" out off, and got one really nice.
Then it happend. In the middle of another roll....All hell broke loose. The thing just balled itself up and fell out of the sky. I was high enough I was able to flip back to normal mode and throttle down and start walking before it hit.
It didn't look hard. But when I got there I saw canopy pieces, the main shaft bent and various other broken pieces. It seems that a ball link broke off of a blade pitch thingy (can you tell this is my first heli?) And that was all she wrote.
Now the problem. Well, now I tried to fix it, but the setup is ALL wrong. It will not hover and when it does its all over the place and the tail rotor trim is all the way to one side and still not enough.
The manual sucks in this regard. I have no idea how to set one of these up.
I plan on going to my LHS, where I bought the parts and a glow heli to have them look at it.
But I must say that I am a little upset being a guy with no clue and a broken very fun toy.
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I've seen references to bdavisons assembly instructions for the Blade CP. I've tried searching but all I can find is references to it, not the actual instructions. Could someone please post a link to the instructions? Also, if someone can tell me somewhere that gives a good set of set-up instructions, that would be great.
Thanks
Thanks
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From: Perkasie, PA
I had the same thing happen today. I have the three cell and cf blades. I was doing a roll and right when I gave it negative pitch, the blades seemed to turn sideways and beat the canopy. All I could do was cut the power and watch it fall. It broke the spindle, bent the shaft and destroyed the canopy. I'm still not sure what caused it because it was flying fine and I had done rolls and loops that flight up til then
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From: Justin,
TX
I think you will find that the ball link broke off the piece that controls the pitch. I saw one of my blades "Feather" right as all hell broke loose.
I can only assume that going from full positive pitch to full negative broke it off.
The rest as they say is a giant ball of spinning crap falling from the sky.
Is there any place I can buy a new one WITHOUT the 4 in 1 and TX?
I can only assume that going from full positive pitch to full negative broke it off.
The rest as they say is a giant ball of spinning crap falling from the sky.

Is there any place I can buy a new one WITHOUT the 4 in 1 and TX?
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From: Phoenix, AZ
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hey i just bought on and can't hover very well need some help i was told to buy this to learn to hover .i just got a simulator and can hover ok but iam flying the impala and the watt not i use to own a raptor 30 and could do better with it . but gave up now iam trying once more i just got the sim like i said and this time ill not give up . i also just bought a shogun should i take it back and get a nother raptor to learn to hover help eric spencer
hey i just bought on and can't hover very well need some help i was told to buy this to learn to hover .i just got a simulator and can hover ok but iam flying the impala and the watt not i use to own a raptor 30 and could do better with it . but gave up now iam trying once more i just got the sim like i said and this time ill not give up . i also just bought a shogun should i take it back and get a nother raptor to learn to hover help eric spencer

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From: Clovis,
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ron i hit my fireplace last night while hovering and am having a similar problem. put new blades on and adjusted gyro and tail rotor mix checked heli from top to bottom. nothing is bent or broken. when i try and hover it will swing back and forth when i try and correct it. it seems to want to fly to the left after lift off and is a little erratic. getting frustrated send help!!!
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From: Fort Wayne,
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1. Replacement body without electronics is available from Horizon and any number of dealers for $99.
2. When you have a pretty hard crash and "think" things are still straight, quite often they are not. Any number of things will cause a vibration which causes the head to start to move in flight and cause the heli to go all over the place. Check that the flybar paddles are still lined up straight and level, check if the flybar itself is bent. If it is replace it. Replace the center shaft. I have had the center shaft appear to be straight, but upon examination in a good light rotating the shaft without the blade stuff, can detect a very, very small bend. Upon replacing the center shaft, vibration goes away and the Blade flys well again.
3. Advice - stock up on center shafts, a few flybars, and grips. If you are willing to fly with small vibration and then some erratic heli movements, you can "try" to straighten shafts. But they will never be perfect. Replace them if you have excessive vibration.
2. When you have a pretty hard crash and "think" things are still straight, quite often they are not. Any number of things will cause a vibration which causes the head to start to move in flight and cause the heli to go all over the place. Check that the flybar paddles are still lined up straight and level, check if the flybar itself is bent. If it is replace it. Replace the center shaft. I have had the center shaft appear to be straight, but upon examination in a good light rotating the shaft without the blade stuff, can detect a very, very small bend. Upon replacing the center shaft, vibration goes away and the Blade flys well again.
3. Advice - stock up on center shafts, a few flybars, and grips. If you are willing to fly with small vibration and then some erratic heli movements, you can "try" to straighten shafts. But they will never be perfect. Replace them if you have excessive vibration.
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From: Warner Robins,
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Here's the link to the E-flite Blade Assembly thread....enjoy
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_31...tm.htm#3131294
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_31...tm.htm#3131294
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From: TRF,
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Anybody know a way to increase the head speed?? I'm currently running the stock setup but have a set of wider/flater/shorter blades, which helps but would like a LITTLE bit more head speed.
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From: Mauldin,
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Great job Jet, finally loopin it. You'll like the bell hiller alot more I think. I also heard someone else who was there lost thier shogun trying to do the same......that's too bad.
So give us a play by play of the successful loops.
So give us a play by play of the successful loops.




