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p.s. does anyone here know the difference between the t-rex hde set up and the cde set up?
what do they mean. . .i cant figure it out.
thanks guys!

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I almost wish it would snow...

And thanks for the thanks, friends, you don't know what it means to me right now to be able to help out a bit.
What can I say?
I had good teachers, some of them are reading this post, you know who you are, thanks from all of us.[sm=regular_smile.gif]

Plus I'm a lucky guesser.:)

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One of them is a eCCPM like the BCPP, and the other one is mechanical mix with a separate pitch servo, but don't ask me which is which.

Wait, I looked it up, it looks like the CDE is the eCCPM one.

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One of them is a eCCPM like the BCPP, and the other one is mechanical mix with a separate pitch servo, but don't ask me which is which.

Wait, I looked it up, it looks like the CDE is the eCCPM one.
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ok, that kind of makes sence. . . i should go for the CCPM one i take it. That is what i use now and understand. I could be wrong but it seems more advanced as well. Plus i am 99% sure that my DX7 will handle the mech mix one as well.

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Glade to hear your problem is solved. :)

I was an auto mechanic for years and just loved getting the hard to find problems. Did not pay much but was fun finding and rewarding when it was fixed. I work in IT security now and still have fun trouble shooting and fixing networks (just allot cleaner work).

Wish I had forums like this when I was a mechanic.

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I programed my DX6 for eCCPM. (servo reversing and location) I had two servos switched and it was wack (I put the wrong rev in) but now its all good.

What do you recomend on the CCPM settings for the pitch % I have 20% now and it seemes like the old radio (servo travel limit)

Also what is a good pitch and throttle curves?

Thanks,
Justin:D

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I programmed the DX6 so the Aileron D/R switch controlls the gyro modes (standared and HH). When the swith is pointing tward the back of the Tx the servo (I pluged in a servo instead of the tail ESC) will drift and not go to center after imputs. If the switch is tward me the servo will not drift and goes center after imputs... what rate is HH and what one is Standared.

Also does anyone know how to control the gail of the gyro with the DX6?

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Hello all, hope ypu had a goog holiday.

Had my first outdoor flight yesterday. Medium wind actually made it much more exciteing. Tryed to land on hot tub just as battery ran low. Resulted in firs tail boom loss. Also decided to do some 360's to practice tail control. Aparently should leave that one for a time when I can hover nose in. Three 360's went ok but third one ended up as a 540 and little bird looked at me laughing. Then fell out of the sky. LOL. Who cares if your still haveing fun right?


Wouldn't mind some advice thou. LHS recomended 1320ma TP lipo and said my eflight charger should work but just take longer to charge. The plug looks different but I can find a way around that. Is anyone useing this setup? The chargers the recomend need an external balancer. $$$ looks like 1320 pack+charger+balancer $210 vs 2nd 800ma $50.

Thinking about brushless and was wondering what the motor options are? Park 370,400 or the hacker?What do you recomend?

Thanx in advance

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Hey eceryone,
I was curious about where your revo and gain wound up after install of DD. I dialed mine in a little better last night. I lowered the gain all the way down, retuned the revo. Now for some reason it seems that I can have very little gyro gain at all. It is almost all the way down and well under half the value I was flying it at before DD. The bird flys great and the tail has a real nice and smooth response to input.
I cannot wait for my HH gyro...should be here today or tomarrow.:D

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Let's see, I have CP2 +85, CP3 +85, CP6 +35, and these have been good for me ever since Heli_Harry posted them on another thread. Even after I changed the servos to HS56HBs I left these alone, although I did adjust the individual servo travel limits to get rid of some binding in the head.

My throttle and pitch curves are pretty different by now, so I suggest you look to find Heli_Harry's initial BCPP DX6 setup post, it will really be helpful. You can try to duplicate the manual's stock curves, that's pretty easy, and one time I figured out that 4 percent on the DX6 pitch curve menu is about 1 degree of pitch at the blades of the BCCP. (total collective travel ~25 degrees, total pitch curve range 100 percent)

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So you have GER on the A switch, that is correct, and presumably you have both cyclic dual rates on the E switch, right? You don't want aileron rate to change when you change gyro mode!

So GER is on the right front switch. THe gyro's remote gain is plugged into GER on the receiver, right? So now the gain is set in the "servo travel limit" menu for the GER. Positive limit is the HH gain, negative limit is the SR gain.

I'm not sure what you mean by drifting and not going to center...a servo plugged into this channel should go from one limit with the switch one way, immediately to the other limit with the switch the other way. It should not respond to any other input other than the switch position, and the limits are set in the travel limit menu for GER.

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That's right, now the tail works much better so the stock gyro can do its job at a lower gain setting.
Wait till you get the external gyro--it will be another huge difference in ease of flying.

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OK guy sim new here and to rc heli's in general started with a little radiosh@ck Jobber and took it to work boss got jelous and went and bought a helimax ez fly and i flew it a few times and got bit by the bug so as of yesterday i took the plunge and went and bought a blade cp pro (more than i need but o well) And realized wow im in a whole different world than his axe ez! Which i thought i was good at. so for now i have two questions 1. May throttle stick has to be about 5/8 to 3/4 to lift off is this normal or am i not getting enough pitch in the blades os something? 2. Can you still use the wood blade if some of the plastic came off? had a little boo boo today and knocked off some of the plastic coating and was wondering if it is still fine to fly? Also 3. (guess i had three questions) What is the best sim program to use to practice an electric mini and will it work with my blades radio? Thanks in advance for the help.

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The 1320 seems to be the optimum battery for this bird, mine also does not have the right connector for the eflite charger, I use another charger and charge thru the regular battery connector, all three cells in series. And I periodically check the individual cells with a voltmeter thru the charge connector, like every couple of charges or so, and I havent seen more than about 0.03 volts difference between them. This one battery has over 60 recharges by now (I put a mark on the batt for every charge) and it is still going strong.
I would balance it if I could, but even the ones that I do run a balancer on will vary by 0.02 volts sometimes.
For bigger high-capacity batteries like the 2250 mAh 20C for the MX400, that one I do use a balancing charger.

If I were you I'd get just the battery, and a couple connectors to make an adapter to plug the battery into the eflite charger. I haven't done that myself because I am too lazy, and you know what they say about buying a used car from a mechanic...

The park 370 is what eflite recommends, it seems to be insanely powerful. I put the Hacker e3-49 in mine, I still haven't been able to hit anywhere near full throttle so I can't tell you what to expect, except maybe some UFO reports.

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Thanks for the gain ajustment tip.

When I say it does not return to center I mean if I push left with the Tx then the servo goes left but when I let go of the sitck the servo stays left unless I tell it right and when I say it drifts, I mean that with no imput or moveing of the heli the servo slowly goes one way untill it is maxed out and stays there untill I give it imput or move the heli. All of this happens ONLY when the switch is at the back of the Tx.

I'll set the gyro gain to HH and see what happens.

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This seems like you are talking about a servo plugged into the _rudder_ channel, or the output of the gyro. I am talking about how the TX would drive a servo in the GER channel, instead of the gyro's remote gain lead.
What you are describing for servo travel in the rudder channel is normal, and with sub-trim and a CP tail you would be able to adjust the drift so it made sense. Since the DX6 tx does not have seperate rudder sub-trim for each gyro mode, I found it is best to leave the rudder sub-trim at zero, and leave the gyro in HH mode. This way that drift tendency of the gyro can be minimised and it will work well during flight.

Now, are you completely confused yet?[&:]

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Last night, I noticed that the green LED on my 3-1 turned red while in flight. What does this mean? It only happens when I throttle up from a low (1ft) hover. Is my motor overspeed or something? Couldn't find anything in the manual.

I just called my lhs and they said it is normal and means I'm close to full power. I always think of red lights as bad?!

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In HH mode the servo is messed up...

I just noticed that with only the gyro and servos being used (no motors) the 3-in-1 gets warm...

I think the gyro is useing an excess of power.

How can I get the HH to work with out the servo/motor fliping out. The gain and travel ajustments don't seem to do anyting...

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badsenna, try this, unplug both your motor leads, (note the polarity and position!) and then run up the throttle stick on the tx. You will see that the red light actually has nothing to do with the motor at all. All it indicates is that the system is nearing the full-throttle point.
If the red light starts coming on at a low throttle position, or stays on all the time, that is a problem.

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The lhs is correct. I thought the same thing when I saw the red light. It even tells you thats ok in the manuel.

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Come on guys you skipped me im going to tell all your moms on you![:'(]

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Well, let's start at the beginning. The gyro's wire leads plug into the RUD channel of the AR6000 receiver. THe gyro's remote gain lead (one wire, right?) plugs into the GER channel of the receiver. The one wire in this connector goes _away_ from the ground side of the jacks.
Now, the rudder lead from the 3-in-1 plugs into the gyro's servo connector.
Is it wired correctly? If so then the travel limits in the TX for the GER channel will set the gain, positive limit for the HH mode and negative limit for the SR mode.

If you have it wired up like this, and it still doesn't behave reasonably, perhaps there is something peculiar about that gyro that doesn't allow it to work properly with an esc. But I doubt that this is the case.

Just to confirm, you are using the JR ring gyro, the stock 3-in-1, the DX6 tx, the AR6000 rx, and the DD tail, right?

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Sorry, a lot going on, your throttle setting is about normal for out-of-the-box, it can be tweaked somewhat but wait till you get off "Jellyson's Learning Curve" before you start messing with pitch changes very much.
You can use the wood blades until they are so much sawdust held together with tape and CA. I would recommend taping the loose cover down with scotch tape so it doesn't catch the wind and disturb the finely-balanced helicopter aerodynamics.
The issue of sims working with the BCPP radio is a tricky one. Some will some won't. In the long run it is just easier to use the controller that came with whatever sim you get.
I like G3, its MX400 flies just like the real thing. I think FSOne actually has a BCP in it, but i haven't flown it.

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Thats about normal. I run up the trim about haly way so the stick is centered when it starts to lift off.



Yes. I use scotch tape to do minor repairs. You may need to rebalance the blades.

Check this site out has good info: http://www.urbanastronomer.com/bladecp/index.html

I use ClearView sim with my other controlers.

Check this site out has good info: http://www.urbanastronomer.com/bladecp/index.html

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Wireing is correct and you are correct about my heli parts. Like I said before I tried the gyro with a extra servo pluged in instead of the ESC and it dirifted and did not go back after inputs. I'll see if I can make a vidoe of the servo.