Its all MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO.......

WE should all be trying to promote the sport in all shapes and form not just electric or IC.

That is precisely why the entire electric vs. IC segregation should be abolished here. Now, with the separation, it is awkward to find ALL the things that you want here.

No you are missing the point .........if you want to learn about IC specifically you go to IC site and vice versa.

Exactly. Why should someone have to scroll through something that might not interest them, to find what they want 🤷‍♂️

Yep, that would suck. I mean a combined total of 10 active threads in July so far to go through and a total of 10 active threads for the whole month of June. Not sure I could even keep up with that activity, let alone read the title of the threads to figure out what is Electric and what is IC. That might take a whole extra 5 minute of my time.

Why is there even a debate? Again, I don't care enough one way or the other. I think the resistance is for the sake of resistance and not based on data. Today Pattern is Pattern. If we use this resistance logic, why not also separate out Pattern Monoplane and Biplanes while we are at it? I mean Biplanes are starting to gain traction and we wouldn't want anyone to feel like somebody is trying to convert a guy that likes Monoplanes, would we?

My .02, don't try to change my opinion, because I will follow the data, not the emotion.

Using your logic, it won't take long to look through both groups, so why change it in the first place?

I'm not trying to change anyones opinion. That's what electric guys do.

If it makes it easier on the moderator then it's a good thing.

Actually, I see things in both forums that all would be interested in or benefit from. I check both also.

Frankly, the activity on RCU is nothing to what it was when they were initially separated.

And the arguments are always started by one ELECTRIC lover.......

Seems to be....

I think some Electric dudes think by converting everyone over only then Electric will win a World Championship.
I for one will stop flying Pattern if only Electric was the go..........maybe we should brake away and start our own IC Competition .....I think I know what the World Champion will do not to mention the Classic guys ...

Yep, you are correct. They have an inferiority complex.
And they try to pretend electrics don't have any problems and hide it. But just look at all the fires they have. My YS has never caught fire.

It would be nice if they can respect each persons decision of what they want to fly.

Agree.....it shouldn't be what you fly but how you fly

I don't tell people they should be flying IC, so expect the same courtesy from electric flyers.

I thought the Pattern forums here were about Pattern - not IC or electric.

The grumbling makes it sound as if it were the end of the world if you accidentally stumbled into a Pattern thread that has electric content in it.

Try telling that to the electric guys. All they do is say that IC flyers should fly electric. Their inferiority complex, won't let them accept some want to fly IC. Hence why it's a good thing to keep the 2 groups seperate.

I entered my first comp with an IC powered plane a few years ago. I was a bit nervous but managed to win my class in a field of mostly electric......the wind was rather strong in the afternoon and clearly I had the power and the advantage.

One of the judges said to me mostly IC flyers switch to electric after 3 comps . I am still trying to work out what he meant
I have won many comps since and gained promotion to the higher class so why change to electric.

I don't believe in monkey see monkey do........its not healthy for the sport

Yeah, I love my YS. I've always flown YS in pattern and I'm in FAI F3A class now.
A lot can't tune properly, so they go to electric. But electrics have problems, regardless of what they tell you.

Here is what I find Ironic... This Poll is posted in the Electric Pattern Thread. Two guys have generated more traffic on this thread than the threads in both forums combined, in the same time frame.

So, your on an Electric Pattern Forum complaining about how the Electric guys are trying to push Electric Pattern on you? Seriously????? AND, not one post in this thread suggesting you need to fly electric all the while... But, you guys are putting up a good debate, not many facts/data mind you, but a strong opinion (credits from the movie "A Few Good Men")

Also, folks from around the world post in these forums, which is great. So misgivings in one area, doesn't mean it is the case everywhere else.

Well said. I tried for years and couldn't get a YS to go (YS 140DZ era). For this reason I went to Electric, and yes it has things you have to deal with and sort out or you will have problems as well. My background is in electronics, so it is easier for me. It's all personal preference. Now Gas is starting to gain traction...

Well the bigger question is why should only electric flyers get to make the decision? I really can't understand why they would want to merge anyway. Believe it or not, the electric brigade mindset is pretty much the same the world over.

As for a couple of IC guys generating traffic, it's pretty obvious we are having a chat about our experiences with the electric fraternity. And it sounds like you don't think what we are saying is true 🤷‍♂️

Yes, the key words personal preference 🙂 They definetly are a different engine. But if you can get on top of it, they run really nice. The DZ140 wasn't the nicest of engines. They are much better now, especially with cdi. Diversity is what makes it more exciting.
Gas is coming along and I wouldn't mind having a go myself, but time poor at the moment. I don't see a future in top level FAI for them though.

There's nothing like the sweet sound of a YS amongst a field of 25 competitors 😀

Nothing is stopping you from putting a Poll in the IC forum, their opinions should be considered as well.

You are being assumptive and adding narrative to my thoughts that are not valid. I can care less that two IC guys are debating being harassed (pushed to go Electric) on an Electric Forum. Maybe you will get more sympathy in the Pattern Forum. Or, if the Forums were combined, it could really get interesting. I have never discounted what you said. But even if something is a fact/true for you, doesn't automatically make it a fact or true for everyone else, as I haven't seen it in many years. I'm just pointing out the obvious.

But sense you went there, what I am implying is there is zero value with the points being made. It is not based off of data, only emotion. AND, I do find it somewhat entertaining, so I may keep on throwing thoughts out there to get a reaction. You haven't failed me yet. 😉

Go for it 😁

No reason for me too create a poll...🤣

🤔🤷‍♂️ Polls are like elections - Useless. But seeing as you mentioned it;
What's the point of having 2 polls?
What's the point of having a poll in only one group, when it affects 2 groups?
What's the point of having a poll, if there isn't discussion about?

Also, anything said on here is only personal opinion, your views included.