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ORIGINAL: tIANci
Joe ... looks like I am stuck with the 210KV and should drop down to an 8S set up. Oh well ... more packs to buy.
Joe ... looks like I am stuck with the 210KV and should drop down to an 8S set up. Oh well ... more packs to buy.
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From: suburb of chicago,
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Guys,
I've used both the 250 and 210. I prefer the 250, if it could take the abuse I put it thru. Starting with 10s packs and swinging a 18/10E APC.
If you can, run the motor at fast idle after landing for a minute. Do not turn it off when you clear the runway!! I think the thermal soak killed my motors.
If Scorpion can resolve the magnet-retainer ring bonding issue this would be the best value out there.
I've since installed an AXI with great results.
Guys,
I've used both the 250 and 210. I prefer the 250, if it could take the abuse I put it thru. Starting with 10s packs and swinging a 18/10E APC.
If you can, run the motor at fast idle after landing for a minute. Do not turn it off when you clear the runway!! I think the thermal soak killed my motors.
If Scorpion can resolve the magnet-retainer ring bonding issue this would be the best value out there.
I've since installed an AXI with great results.
What battery, 8S or 10S?
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From: Belgrade, SERBIA, YUGOSLAVIA
Well, the only one that seems to to be able to fit inside is 5320.</p>
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9882657</p>
Now for 8S it is definitively 5320/28 on 18x12, with 10S it would be on 17x10. For 10S only application it would be 5320/34 on 18x12</p>
Well some motocalc predictions say that 5320/28 with 10S on17x10 would be a very good match.</p>
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From: VleutenUtrecht, NETHERLANDS
Besides wanting to fly on 10s, I don't see any reason why not to use the Hacker A50-16L. The Scorpion is obviously an engine with quality issues, i have seen one spit out it's magnets in real life, and in this thread there are like 3 users that had rings or magnets come out. I fail to see why people insist on wanting this engine, basically it's a crap engine, to put it harshly.
The A50-16L is not perfect either, but at least it doesn't fall apart.
Most other alternatives don't fit, or you need to do some work on the nose. If you don't like the Hacker A50, then go for the inrunner Hacker.
The A50-16L is not perfect either, but at least it doesn't fall apart.
Most other alternatives don't fit, or you need to do some work on the nose. If you don't like the Hacker A50, then go for the inrunner Hacker.
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From: Pescara, ITALY
I suppose this motor is a suitable one:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=7709
http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=7709
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I suppose this motor is a suitable one:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=7709
I suppose this motor is a suitable one:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store...idProduct=7709
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Besides wanting to fly on 10s, I don't see any reason why not to use the Hacker A50-16L. The Scorpion is obviously an engine with quality issues, i have seen one spit out it's magnets in real life, and in this thread there are like 3 users that had rings or magnets come out. I fail to see why people insist on wanting this engine, basically it's a crap engine, to put it harshly.
The A50-16L is not perfect either, but at least it doesn't fall apart.
Most other alternatives don't fit, or you need to do some work on the nose. If you don't like the Hacker A50, then go for the inrunner Hacker.
Besides wanting to fly on 10s, I don't see any reason why not to use the Hacker A50-16L. The Scorpion is obviously an engine with quality issues, i have seen one spit out it's magnets in real life, and in this thread there are like 3 users that had rings or magnets come out. I fail to see why people insist on wanting this engine, basically it's a crap engine, to put it harshly.
The A50-16L is not perfect either, but at least it doesn't fall apart.
Most other alternatives don't fit, or you need to do some work on the nose. If you don't like the Hacker A50, then go for the inrunner Hacker.
Saying the scorp is a crap motor is a bit harsh.
The 250 we use is abused with the larger than recommended props, wild maneuvers, 10S packs etc. The 210 seems to work OK on 10S.
That said, you have been an advocate for the Hacker on 8S from the start and I think you are spot on. For a Wind 110 owner a Hacker and 8S seems like the sensible approach.
I took a chance on the Scorp 250 and I do not regret it. The service from Lucien is the best I have experienced for any product.
I'm sure Scorpion will resolve the issue and I would buy another in a heartbeat.
Until then the AXI 5320/34 will have to do. Actually my Wind 2M will soon displace the 110.
Good luck with your 2M next year and thanks for your feedback & comments on the 110.
Mike
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From: guadalajarazapopan, MEXICO
Hi all Winders:
I have just bought all the parts for a wind 110. It was a 40% off :-) (total 305 dls) for replacenment parts so here I'm waiting for the airframe to arrive. This will be my first large pattern plane!!!
Does anyone from the old winds turned into pieces has the CF tube for the stab? will be nice to have some help here. This is the only part that I'm not able to get, I have already all scres, tires, axles, CF main wing, etc.
My setup will be:
4 futaba 9650
1 Hitec 5645
scorpion 4015-16
8s 4800 mah
2s 800 mah RX
Castle Creations Voltage Regulator 20A Pro
apc 16x10 or 16x12
Claude
Guadalajara Mexico
I have just bought all the parts for a wind 110. It was a 40% off :-) (total 305 dls) for replacenment parts so here I'm waiting for the airframe to arrive. This will be my first large pattern plane!!!
Does anyone from the old winds turned into pieces has the CF tube for the stab? will be nice to have some help here. This is the only part that I'm not able to get, I have already all scres, tires, axles, CF main wing, etc.
My setup will be:
4 futaba 9650
1 Hitec 5645
scorpion 4015-16
8s 4800 mah
2s 800 mah RX
Castle Creations Voltage Regulator 20A Pro
apc 16x10 or 16x12
Claude
Guadalajara Mexico
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From: Fenton,
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The other day when removing the stab tube from the stab, the fiberglass tube socket came with it. Does anyone think I should replace the stab with a new one? It still seems to fit tight to the airframe without any slop. I mean heck, haven't even flown this one yet.
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From: Qld, , AUSTRALIA
ORIGINAL: hezik
Besides wanting to fly on 10s, I don't see any reason why not to use the Hacker A50-16L. The Scorpion is obviously an engine with quality issues, i have seen one spit out it's magnets in real life, and in this thread there are like 3 users that had rings or magnets come out. I fail to see why people insist on wanting this engine, basically it's a crap engine, to put it harshly.
The A50-16L is not perfect either, but at least it doesn't fall apart.
Most other alternatives don't fit, or you need to do some work on the nose. If you don't like the Hacker A50, then go for the inrunner Hacker.
Besides wanting to fly on 10s, I don't see any reason why not to use the Hacker A50-16L. The Scorpion is obviously an engine with quality issues, i have seen one spit out it's magnets in real life, and in this thread there are like 3 users that had rings or magnets come out. I fail to see why people insist on wanting this engine, basically it's a crap engine, to put it harshly.
The A50-16L is not perfect either, but at least it doesn't fall apart.
Most other alternatives don't fit, or you need to do some work on the nose. If you don't like the Hacker A50, then go for the inrunner Hacker.
However I only use the plane for pattern practice and comps.
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From: Woodbridge,
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Jan 2011. Got the Wind 110 for Christmas and I have been working on it.
Ran into a small problem with installing the motor.
Motor - Hacker A50 - 16L
Screws 4mm
Problem : the screws do not allow the prop adapter to fully sit.
How did you guys mount the motor?
Ran into a small problem with installing the motor.
Motor - Hacker A50 - 16L
Screws 4mm
Problem : the screws do not allow the prop adapter to fully sit.
How did you guys mount the motor?
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Jan 2011. Got the Wind 110 for Christmas and I have been working on it.
Ran into a small problem with installing the motor.
Motor - Hacker A50 - 16L
Screws 4mm
Problem : the screws do not allow the prop adapter to fully sit.
How did you guys mount the motor?
Jan 2011. Got the Wind 110 for Christmas and I have been working on it.
Ran into a small problem with installing the motor.
Motor - Hacker A50 - 16L
Screws 4mm
Problem : the screws do not allow the prop adapter to fully sit.
How did you guys mount the motor?
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Yep. that is what I'm using. I also tried to file down the bolts to a 45 deg angle but still no go. another person did the same but His is working. I'll work on it.. thank.
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Cool deal. I Live off cardinal drive. What club are you a member at?
The suggested screws were excellent. picked them up today and mounted the motor.
Pretty much done. running telemetry on the wind with a DX8.
Gary V.
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The suggested screws were excellent. picked them up today and mounted the motor.
Pretty much done. running telemetry on the wind with a DX8.
Gary V.
VP NVRC<br type="_moz" />
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From: Willow Point,
BC, CANADA
I used these:
http://www.rtlfasteners.com/RC/r1b.html
They fit but after installation I had to use my dremel to take a tiny bit off the screw but it was very little. I think I used the 4x8mm ones but just make sure they are the right length and do not interfere with the can. I found them at the LHS and they are a common car part.
Cheers
MJ
http://www.rtlfasteners.com/RC/r1b.html
They fit but after installation I had to use my dremel to take a tiny bit off the screw but it was very little. I think I used the 4x8mm ones but just make sure they are the right length and do not interfere with the can. I found them at the LHS and they are a common car part.
Cheers
MJ
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I had to also chamfer the back of the prop adaptor so it would not hit the Cap Screws that I also had to grind a very steep 60 deg chamfer. And I use washers with the screws against the fiberglass firewall.
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I am happy to report my results using a XOAR 18x12 prop. The amp meter recorded a max reading of 58.5 amps at full throttle on the Hacker A50L. This is compared to the APC 18x10 which maxed out at 61.5 amps. So with more pitch (more thrust) I am using about 5% less amps!! I am going to fly the XOAR prop hoping that the extra thrust will help me in the up lines, and also punch through the wind a little better. My only concern will be to see if I am faster in the down lines.
Once the weather warms up I will report the flight differences, but I am encouraged once again that a XOAR prop puts out more thrust for less amp pull.
Once the weather warms up I will report the flight differences, but I am encouraged once again that a XOAR prop puts out more thrust for less amp pull.
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From: Fenton,
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Have you actually measured the thrust with each prop?
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I am happy to report my results using a XOAR 18x12 prop. The amp meter recorded a max reading of 58.5 amps at full throttle on the Hacker A50L. This is compared to the APC 18x10 which maxed out at 61.5 amps. So with more pitch (more thrust) I am using about 5% less amps!! I am going to fly the XOAR prop hoping that the extra thrust will help me in the up lines, and also punch through the wind a little better. My only concern will be to see if I am faster in the down lines.
Once the weather warms up I will report the flight differences, but I am encouraged once again that a XOAR prop puts out more thrust for less amp pull.
I am happy to report my results using a XOAR 18x12 prop. The amp meter recorded a max reading of 58.5 amps at full throttle on the Hacker A50L. This is compared to the APC 18x10 which maxed out at 61.5 amps. So with more pitch (more thrust) I am using about 5% less amps!! I am going to fly the XOAR prop hoping that the extra thrust will help me in the up lines, and also punch through the wind a little better. My only concern will be to see if I am faster in the down lines.
Once the weather warms up I will report the flight differences, but I am encouraged once again that a XOAR prop puts out more thrust for less amp pull.


