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Old 01-14-2011 | 11:02 AM
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Hey patternflyer1

Sorry for your loss. Its never nice to see a crash but when its an expensive patternship its really sad.

I have just bought a second hand E-motion. Can anyone help me with receiver installation on this plane. I have been using 35mhz before but because of the electric power in this ship I decided to buy a Spektrum module and an A7000 and A9000 receiver. I dont know how they will handle the CF canopy of this plane as the canopy is quite large. When I hold the canopy up to the light it seems quite porous with the CF weave. Will I be able to use these recivers with this plane or do I now need to spend extra $$$ for a new CF receiver

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Old 01-14-2011 | 12:23 PM
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I know how you feel, Chris. I lost my pattern plane on it's 5th flight last year. Fortunately for me is wasn't as expensive as yours. It was just a Wind 110 but it was still an expensive 5 flights and it was my most expensive crash to date. I ended up being able to salvage everything by the airframe and so I just bought another one. I hope you can find a way to get another pattern plane in the air too.

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Old 01-14-2011 | 08:03 PM
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You'll be fine with the normal receivers.

I would reccomend the AR7600 though, as it's very light and very fast. The AR9000 is a 2048 resolution receiver, but simply not necessary and essentially dead weight in an electric powered airplane.
Old 01-14-2011 | 09:17 PM
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I agree with Ryan.
I bought a 36" extension to put my satellite receiver way back in the tail. (I have skinny arms)
I have 3 of the AR7600s and have never had a "glitch"

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Old 01-15-2011 | 02:03 AM
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Thanks guys

If I can help it I dont want to buy another receiver yet. Would you suggest the AR7000 or AR9000 for what I want to do?

Ryan are you using a longer extension to take your satellite further away? Is there better ways to angle the aerials when you have a large amounts of CF. I know they need to be square to one another but I mean relative to the CF area.

I also got a flight log, I heard you can use it to check frame losses etc by having the plane on the ground and rotating it in different planes to check that at all angles it gets good signal. Not sure how to do that yet :O

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Old 01-15-2011 | 07:50 AM
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Thanks guys. No worries. This happened quite some time ago now. I am waiting on the Delro Opiums to arrive in the US. Hopefully soon as I want to get to building one or two of them for the nats. I'm pretty excited to be building again. It's a lot of fun!

As for the receiver mounting, I didn't have any issues with that. I haven't heard anyone who has actually.


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Old 01-15-2011 | 10:55 AM
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I have see many of these planes flown with "normal" Spektrum equipment and never heard of a problem. A special carbon fiber fuse receiver is not necessary. Enjoy your E-Motion, you will love it.
Old 01-16-2011 | 01:13 AM
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Thanks guys.

Patternflyer1 did you ever find the reason for the crash?

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Old 01-17-2011 | 09:39 PM
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In my Partners, I'm running an R921 (essentially the same receiver as the AR9000) and have two satellites. One has the standard six inch remote extension, and the other has a 36 inch remote extension. Oddly enough, the remote on the 36 inch extension is the one outside of carbon fiber completely and has the weakest reception (if you call 25 frame losses weak, the other receivers reported back 9 frame losses each). You really don't need two remote antennas, the one that comes with the receiver is plenty sufficient.

Actually I looked at the weight specs for the receivers, go with the AR9000, it's one gram heavier than the AR7000. Go with the nine channel.

Problem solved.
Old 01-18-2011 | 06:47 PM
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I had run a shared elevator wire and I didn't put the wire in a tube. The rear former had a little sharp spot in it. Well, my luck.. Guess what happened? hehe. My own fault. I should have checked it better. Had I not run a shared wire, I would still have the plane today because one of the elevator servo's would have still worked. Live and learn I guess.

I liked the Emotion a lot! Really good plane IMO.


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Old 01-19-2011 | 04:33 PM
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Sucks to lose the airplane Chris but at least now you know what the problem was and aren't second guessing things. That's at least worth something.
Old 01-20-2011 | 12:21 PM
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In my Partners, I'm running an R921 (essentially the same receiver as the AR9000) and have two satellites. One has the standard six inch remote extension, and the other has a 36 inch remote extension. Oddly enough, the remote on the 36 inch extension is the one outside of carbon fiber completely and has the weakest reception (if you call 25 frame losses weak, the other receivers reported back 9 frame losses each). You really don't need two remote antennas, the one that comes with the receiver is plenty sufficient.

Actually I looked at the weight specs for the receivers, go with the AR9000, it's one gram heavier than the AR7000. Go with the nine channel.

Problem solved.
Wow that is strange. I am busy installing my AR9000 and have ordered a 36" ext. I'm guessing that is 25 frames for the flight and not continuous frame loss? Dont you mean fades? Isnt a frame loss when all receivers loss signal?

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Old 01-20-2011 | 02:11 PM
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Excuse me, they were fades. It was late and I wanted to try and get a response typed up before I passed out.
Old 01-21-2011 | 06:59 AM
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Excuse me, they were fades. It was late and I wanted to try and get a response typed up before I passed out.
Ok thanks, great

If you are running 2 servos at the tail that might be the reason. I read on the Spektrum site that when using long remote receiver extensions to keep them separated from ignitions, batt, servo ext etc. Cant rem exactly what it said but something to that effect

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Old 03-27-2011 | 04:48 AM
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Finally getting the E-Motion finished, Can anyone give me some starting points for the throws. On Aileron,Elevator and rudder.
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Old 03-27-2011 | 06:37 AM
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Dennis,

Just like every other pattern plane out there. 10-15 on aileron and elevator, depending on how touchy you like your stuff, then all you can get for rudder on stall turns and probably 40% of that for low rate. That is a good starting point, and then adjust from there,

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Has anyone with an E-Motion experienced any loss of signal issues due to the large CF canopy?
I was looking at mine and was thinking it might be a concern, but perhaps I'm overthinking it.
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Has anyone with an E-Motion experienced any loss of signal issues due to the large CF canopy?
I was looking at mine and was thinking it might be a concern, but perhaps I'm overthinking it.

Never noticed an issue with it.

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Old 09-03-2014 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by patternflyer1
Never noticed an issue with it.

Chris
Thank you very much.
I was going to do a range test but with the plane in knife edge and the canopy "shading" the antennae from the transmitter. The signal strength telemetry would indicate if these was an issue.
But once again I was overcomplicating things.

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