underdw

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You're sure providing some tough choices now!
Chip, when you have a few moments, I, and probably others, would appreciate a detailed comparison between the CA offerings. What are their strengths and weaknesses? Differences in snap, spin characteristics? Is one more suited to a certain flying style or ability level? Will any of them be a challenge to make weight with as an electric?

Thanks,
Dan Underkofler

Doug Cronkhite

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Out of the 3 I still like the looks and design thoughts of the Visa the best.

underdw

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Did I miss the revelation of who the designer was?

Ryan Smith

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If you did, I did as well. I'm very interested to know who it is.

Passport1

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No you guys didn't miss it but we have had to wait a little longer to announce it because of some details I really can't say. Its coming hopefully by the end of the month. Dan I saw your question and I am just composing my thoughts on how to best answer you. Its not an easy question lol

CHip

AmericanSpectre505

I still like the Envision look,...Chip I'll order one in 10 months when I get back across the big pond. All the designs in the stable at CA Models look like winners,..great job.[8D]


BHolsten
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Passport1

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Ok Dan I have had a little time to think about your question and I am going to try to answer as best I can. We basically have 4 choices to choose from.

1. The Onas is a great all around airplane. Because of its design and wing size its a very easy airplane to make weight with as an electric regardless of motor or battery combination within reason. There are many guys flying them down here already and Tony F has been flying his with great success in the US for the past couple months. Its also a sweptwing which is still kind of unique nowadays and can be for either glow or electric.

2. The Passport is a little larger plane then most that until rescently people have had a hard time making weight with it as an electric. I believe that problem has been solved but you cannot just put any motor or battery combination in it. It is a solid design that has been proven over time and is still one of the nicest flying planes for any skill level on the market today. It is also a model that can easily go either way glow or electric.

3. The Visa has been designed for two things from the ground up. The first is to be super strong and the second is to be light. We have accomplished both of these things and other then that its just a little sportier Passport that is only available as an electric.

4. The Envision has a lot in common with all 3 of the above mentioned airplanes. It has the size of the passport, the sweptwing similiar to the Onas, and has been designed to be solely for electric. Because of this weight is not an issue simply due to the fact that we can make the fuses much lighter and stronger without having a chin cowl on them. It is also a sweptwing plane so if you like that look its a great choice.

I have flown all of these planes quite a bit and we have really tried to get all the flying qualities to be the same or close enough so 1 plane does not have any signifigant advantages over the others. All four of these planes have been designed by people with 25 plus years experience flying or designing pattern type models.

In my opinoun it just comes down to personal preference and what equipment you like the most. Glow or electric, inrunner or out runner etc.

I hope this helps

CHip

underdw

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Thanks Chip!
It'll be nice to choose primarily based on the aesthetics. (pattern is a lot about aesthetics IMO)

Regards, Dan

PS. Can I pay for my Visa with my Mastercard?

Passport1

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LOL Mastercard is as good of way as any to buy a Visa. The new Envision arrived safe and sound yesterday and the designer loves it so we are now building the first two.

Pics later when I go to the other factory

Chip

Patterndude1

CA models is the finest and I will say that anyday.

Matt

Passport1

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Well the first of two Envisions is at the paint shop at the moment. Lets see who can figure out the designer based upon the paint scheme. I will give you a hint. This is his first F3A design.

Chip

ExFokkerFlyer

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Jason

Passport1

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And we have a winner lol.

JAS

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What did I win

Passport1

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well its still in one peice lol

JAS

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that's gonna be a sexy plane if I do say so myself

Passport1

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yeah yeah. Now that you are a DESIGNER how does it feel.

JAS

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I'll letcha know after I get it flying...lol

Passport1

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This is great I walk around the corner to post something and when I get back 2 more colors are done.

JAS

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Hmmm, that looks just like the drawing I sent you guys

Looks great, thank you guys/gals down there.

J Lachowski

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Heck, I knew it was Jason the minute you mentioned what motor was being used.

David Kyjovsky

Beautiful plane, Jason. Keep designing!

David

Passport1

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Here is the last pic for a few days until we get back from the nationals. We really wanted to get Jasons and Andrews planes out of here before we left but upon my return I just felt unbelievably run down for a few days. They are almost done now and will be cleared later on today. Sorry guys.

Chip

apereira

Jason and Andrew, wow.

Jason best wishes with the new plane!!

Alejandro Pereira

AmericanSpectre505

I really like the plane JAS,...waiting until I get back from across the pond for one,..until then keep the reports coming in.

Regards,

bholsten