Hey im sorta new to the hobby i sometimes fly my brothers plane when its in the air (aerobird extreme).I want to know your opinion on these 3 planes they are-

Aerobird challenger(my brother used to have it)

T-Hawk

Sky scooter Pro.

As i live in England please dont give me sites from America.
Thanks for your help.

of those 3, I would reccomend the T-hawk. I have had the aerobird challenger, and its fun, especially the xport combat.. but having also flown a t-hawk a friend had, I would say its a better buy. flies a little better than the aerobird, comes with both an extra wing and an extra tail, and has real components that can be swapped onto your next plane. (everything on the aerobird is on one circuit board, if any part fails, the whole thing is worthless...) Like the aerobird, the thawk comes with everything you need to get flying right there in the box.
I really dont know much about the sky scooter, but it seems a bit more advanced...

I cant find the plane with the extra's in the uk[:@][:@]
Is there any other planes that are good beginners that you can think of?
thanks for your help,again.

I have an Aerobird Challenger - Love it!

How good are you with the Xtreme? Do you want something like that or do you feel you are ready for something more advanced?

I am going to give you two groups. One are RTF starter planes, like the Aerobird and the T-Hawk. The second are more advanced and more aerobatic planes, lke the Scooter.

I don't have UK links but I am sure you can do a search and find the planes in the UK once you make a decision.

Feel free to ask questions.



READY TO FLY STARTER PLANES - Parkflyers
No building - they practically fly right out of the box
These also glide well so you can thermal soar
with them under the right conditions.

Aerobird Challenger - RTF Electric - $150
I started on an Aerobird RTF. I love it and recommend it highly I have over
300 between my original Aerobird and the newer AB Challenger. I also thermal
and slope soar this plane. Flies well and stands up to hard landings. The
add on fun accesories for night flying, air to air combat and drop module add
to the fun!
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HBZ3500
Review
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Disco...ID=1289#Page01
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147621
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/aerobird_video.html


Slow-V from Parkzone - $140
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. The is the best choice for people
who only have a small space to fly. Can also be flown indoors in a gym or
similar space.
http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...p?prod=PKZ1300
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2089493
Video
http://users.cwnet.com/dhsc19/Slo_V_Aerobatics.wmv
Night fly module on a Slo-V
http://rc-galaxy.com/messageboard/mb...ViewMsg&num=-8


T-Hawk - RTF - Excellent Value - $170
Comes with extra wing, tail and battery
Flies well and stands up to hard landings
Can be flown on 27 mhz or 72 mhz
http://www.toytx.com/thawk3chrtf.html
T-Hawk - Without Radio - add your radio and receiver
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html
T-Hawk Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ighlight=THawk
Videos
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/thawkvideos.html


Easy Star - RTF - $180
Super tough foam. Comes with 72 mhz radio in the US.
Good parkflyer and a good glider
Radio in RTF package can be used to fly other planes
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240025.asp
Easy Star - ARF - Add you own radio gear
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp
Discussion Thread on Easy Star
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258656
Video - touch and gos
http://plawner.org/video/easygo.wmv
Video - Testing the planes's behavior
http://plawner.org/video/easystar.wmv




3Channel Aerobatic Planes

F27-Stryker - RTF
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=PKZ1200
Video
http://rc-galaxy.com/Video/F-27_Stry...ris_7-9-04.wmv
http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_videos/p...mallformat.wmv
http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_videos/p...yker_video.wmv
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=392

Sky Scooter RTF - Also available ARF - 3 Channel
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/sky_scooter_pro_2.html
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/sky_s...o_2_vid_1.html
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/sky_s...o_2_vid_2.html

Multiplex Space Scooter - RTF -
recommend this over the Sky Scooter - Better wing
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZV5&P=7
ARF
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZV4&P=7

Multiplex Microjet - ARF
http://www.multiplexusa.com/product_fs.htm

Viper Twin - ARF
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/viper.html
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/trailervid.html
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/smoothvid.html

Zagi XS - ARF
http://zagi.com/index.php?main_page=...&products_id=1
Video page
http://www.zagi.com/index.php?main_p...812dbc8b76c42f

Zagi XT - ARF
http://zagi.com/index.php?main_page=...&products_id=5
Video Page
http://www.zagi.com/index.php?main_p...812dbc8b76c42f


Planes that can be 3 channel beginner planes or 4 channel aileron trainers.
Kits

Magpie - Easy to build Foam kit - also listed above
Has trainer wing AND an available sport wing
Master the first, then advance to the second.
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv

SmoothE - Easy to build Balsa and foam
http://www.mountainmodels.com/smoothe.php
Funny video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/SmoothEsmall.WMV

IFO - Easy to build kit
Demo at the 2000 Tournament of Champions
http://www.wildrc.com/htmlpages/movies/toc2000.mpg
Flying Combat in a gym
http://www.wildrc.com/htmlpages/movies/mk3combat.mpg


4 Channel Aileron Trainers
RTF, ARF or Kits

GWS E-starter 400 - Simple Foam Kit
http://www.servohut.com/estarter.htm

GWS Tiger Moth 400 - Simple Foam Kit
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...ProdID=GWS1020
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=345
http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi...345/TM400m.wmv

Mountain Models Dandy Sport - Balsa kit
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandysport.php
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/ds1.wmv

Multiplex Magister - RTF or kit
This plane is much larger than the others
Close to a .40 glow trainer in size
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGZV3&P=ML
Review
http://www.smoothair.ca/reviews/Magister/magister.htm
Video - This is not with the standard motor
this plane has an upgraded brushless motor
http://plawner.net/video/magister_funday.wmv
Video - Brushless
http://plawner.org/video/magister.wmv



See anything interesting?

How can we help?

The aerobird xtreme is too fast for me so i want to get something slower,any sugestions?. ! think its between the T-hawk and the Challenger.
Thanks for all your help !

Save the Sky Scooter or the Space Scooter for your next plane.

The T-Hawk is as good or better than the Challenger, BUT when you have a built in combat partner in your brother, how can you pass that up? Think Man! Blowing your brother out of the sky? Gotta do it!

If your brother has an Xtreme, then you get the Challenger. Then both of you should pickup combat modules, drop modules and night fly modules.

Get the Challenger!

Get good in Pro Mode! Learn to use the elevator to sharpen the turns. Learn to use the throttle to help those turns be REALLY tight! Then send me a note and I will give you some tips on making the plane even more responsive!

Work on things like going into a loop and rolling out at the top (Immelman turn I think, or is it a split S?) Tail stalls are great too. If he is coming up behind you, you start to loop. (I bet you the Challenger can loop tighter than the Xtreme.) He will try to follow you into the loop to stay behind you. Then you cut the power to hit the breaks and he flies right by (remember Top Gun?) You hit the throttle and nail him with a gun shot! BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP!

This is not about flying, this is about fun and nothing will sharpen your flying skills like air to air combat!!!!! We are talking big time fun here! Which plane should you get? Are you kidding?

He may be bigger and faster, but you are smaller and more agile. He may be able to out run you, but I bet you can out turn him! Turn and burn baby!

Then there are the precision bombing runs!

Set up a tub or a target circle on the ground! You are on bombing mission. He is fighter defense. You have to hit the tub and get away before he can shoot you down! Then reverse roles.

Get some friends involved. Battle of Britton! 2 Xtremes as Bombers with a Challenger as fighter cover. Two Challenger fighters defend Britton. Nail those bombers! Remember, when they are carrying the drop module, they have no guns! If they hit the target, you lose and the Queen will be very annoyed!

Then there is night flying. Have you ever gone night flying? Too cool for words! Like flying a ghost. You must try night flying!

The Challenger flies great on the standard 6 cell pack. (I have 3) However for combat you definitely want the 7 cell packs ( I have 4) for the extra speed and acceleration.

Blow him out of the sky!

Lol nice ideas yup Challenger it is then.Because my brother used to have one we have like 5 extra batterys,and he has a cessna which has the 7 cell packs so we have 3 of them.Thanks for all your help cant wait to get it,its his birthday comming up il get my mum to get him two SCM's.Should be very fun.
Thanks for all your help yet again !

Have a great time!