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Old 08-14-2011 | 11:46 AM
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Why try, 25$ i can buy a real cdi from HK with the same options you cdi have, no option !
Why i buy components for 25$ and have to make the same cdi without options ?
Wat will work for you do not say it work for me or others.
A boat engine is not the same a airplane engine or car engine.
Why you do not show the file we need for change the advange ?
Please put the cdi to the rcgroups forum so we can see wat you know.
I think others have make this cdi and you only have test the cdi.
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Old 08-14-2011 | 12:17 PM
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If you want a different curve as I said in other posts here, Nyemi will even write it for you. He has offered twice. I think that is enough. There is no specific program to change the curves. It is written in ASM and requires that you input data to the excel worksheet then copy and paste the retlw values into the source code to make a new hex file by using the MPLAB ASM compiler.
Are willing to do this? If you are able to do this, I will email you the source code. .. If not, then you are stuck with the free hex file.
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Old 08-14-2011 | 12:40 PM
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I have do the same with cdi jmj and bigbaot make, he use exel and micro c for advange.
With mplabs make hex file and put into pic is no problem to me.
You can send file to [email protected] thank you.
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Old 08-17-2011 | 06:35 AM
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John, i mis c-program, you send me only the asm and exel file.
Thank you for the asm and exel file.
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Old 08-17-2011 | 08:44 AM
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There is no C program. I said the program was written in ASM, not mikro C. That's why you edit values on the excel sheet to produce the Retlw values and copy and paste into the ASM program and then compile to hex.

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Old 08-17-2011 | 10:22 AM
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Hi Fly42
<span lang="en" id="result_box" class="short_text"><span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">send</span> <span class="hps">you</span> <span class="hps">ASM-</span><span class="hps atn">HEX-</span><span>EXCEL</span><span>.</span></span>
<span lang="en" id="result_box" class="short_text"><span class="hps">A little</span> <span class="hps">complicated.</span></span>


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Old 08-17-2011 | 10:57 AM
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Thank you for files.
This files are not the same from John?
Hardware is same?
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Old 08-17-2011 | 11:22 AM
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Hi Fly42
Yes
<span lang="en" id="result_box" class="short_text"><span class="hps">John</span> <span class="hps">ignition</span> <span class="hps">of the</span> <span class="hps">files</span> <span class="hps">it</span> <span class="hps">works</span><span>.
</span></span><span lang="en" id="result_box" class="short_text"><span class="hps">This is</span> <span class="hps">the ignition</span> <span class="hps">curve,</span> <span class="hps">Hall</span> <span class="hps">28 &deg;</span> <span class="hps">position.
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Old 08-17-2011 | 11:32 AM
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Wat wrong with exel, can not change
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Old 08-17-2011 | 11:57 AM
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<span lang="en" class="short_text" id="result_box"><span class="hps">Hi Fly42

</span></span><span lang="en" class="short_text" id="result_box"><span class="hps">I am</span> <span class="hps">using</span> <span class="hps">Excel</span> <span class="hps">2007</span><span>.</span></span>
<span lang="en" class="short_text" id="result_box"><span class="hps">You are</span> <span class="hps">what kind</span> <span class="hps">do you use?</span></span>

<span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">see</span> <span class="hps">you</span> <span class="hps">have posted</span> <span class="hps">more.</span>
<span class="hps">Not</span> <span class="hps atn">just "</span><span>Delay</span> <span class="hps">degree</span><span>."</span></span>
<span lang="en" class="short_text" id="result_box"><span class="hps">RPM</span> <span class="hps">values ​​are</span> <span class="hps">fixed</span><span>!</span></span>

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Old 08-17-2011 | 12:10 PM
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I do have 2000 exel not new 2007, no torrent make for this file.
Jes i have posted more in this cdi forum, but no delay posting make.
Slow internet in Guyana, only in universitie fast connection.
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Old 08-18-2011 | 12:20 AM
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Any chance to receive original working PCB files ?



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Old 08-18-2011 | 02:59 AM
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Hi Dino,
The PDF file to make a pcb is posted back on page one of this thread. I can re post them if you need them.

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Old 08-18-2011 | 03:03 AM
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yes, now i have exel 2007 and can make change to advange.
Thank you
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Old 08-18-2011 | 07:09 AM
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Hi John,
I know about pdf files but i am interested in original Eagle for PCB and schema file Like John the second proposed in posts #2 and #3

BTW , very nice work. Your engine runs smooth.

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Old 08-18-2011 | 08:28 AM
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Hi Dino...
Rcu won't support uploading those files here. Pm me with your email address and I'll send them to you tonight after work.

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Old 08-18-2011 | 11:05 PM
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Hi John,
Thanks you very much for files.


For Nyemi:

I sent you a PM for Program files.
Can you email me ASM and Excel files and the name of compiler wich you use for HEX ?


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Old 08-19-2011 | 09:22 PM
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Hi
<span lang="en" id="result_box" class="short_text"><span class="hps">Look what</span> <span class="hps">you get</span> <span class="hps">for your money.</span></span>
<span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">disassemble</span> <span class="hps">a</span> <span class="hps">RCexl</span> <span class="hps">original</span> <span class="hps">ignition.</span>
<span class="hps">I will show</span> <span class="hps">circuit.</span>
<span class="hps">I will show</span> <span class="hps">the original</span> <span class="hps">ignition</span> <span class="hps">curve.</span></span>

<span lang="en" class="short_text" id="result_box"><span class="hps">I</span><span>, therefore,</span> <span class="hps">not</span> <span class="hps">many people</span> <span class="hps">will</span> <span class="hps">love.</span></span>
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Old 08-20-2011 | 08:38 AM
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Hi Nyemi, is there any way to show us how to change the Excel sheet with Excel 2007?
I just installed it and am having problems figuring it out. We need an easy to use setup.

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Old 08-20-2011 | 09:43 AM
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I do not understand why change you do not have to change it is good you say it by you self.
You ware angry to me when i want to change the advange, strange person are you
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Old 08-20-2011 | 03:05 PM
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I am asking for other people so they have the ability to change it themselves. Mine is already perfect for all my engines and works excellent. If it is easier, more people will try it.

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Old 08-20-2011 | 09:24 PM
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New Roman";mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}</style><![endif]><p class="MsoNormal">Hi CDI gr8flyer55

Yes.

I will soon show phases, with pictures.
The phases are described:

1.<span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style=""><span id="result_box">Enter your</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">ignition</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">curve</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">green</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">lane.( Excel= E4E259 line)</span></span><span lang="EN" style="">
<span class="hps">2.</span><span id="result_box">Optimize</span> <span class="hps">'</span>RETLW <span class="hps">value "</span>(Excel <span class="hps">=</span> <span class="hps">K1).</span>
<span class="hps">It is</span> <span class="hps">that "</span>ASM <span class="hps">RETLW</span> <span class="hps">value (</span>hex)" <span class="hps">(Excel</span> <span class="hps">=</span> <span class="hps">NO4</span> <span class="hps">-</span> <span class="hps">NO259</span>) <span class="hps">line.</span>
<span class="hps">Do not be a</span> <span class="hps">"</span>00FF" <span class="hps">greater.(1 table value register=8 bit=00FFmax value)</span>
<span class="hps">3.</span><span id="result_box">Take</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">ASM</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">file.</span>
<span class="hps">4.</span><span id="result_box">Copy</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">into</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">'</span><span class="shorttext">RETLW </span><span class="hps">ASM</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">value (</span><span class="shorttext">hex) </span><span class="hps">"</span><span id="result_box">(Excel</span> <span class="hps">=</span> <span class="hps">NO4</span> <span class="hps">-</span> <span class="hps">NO259 line</span>)
5.</span><span class="hps"><span id="result_box">Modify</span><span class="shorttext"> "RETLW </span><span class="hps">value "</span><span class="shorttext"> ASM. </span></span><span class="hps"><span id="result_box">"</span><span class="shorttext">NOP" </span><span class="hps">number,</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">reducing or increasing</span><span class="shorttext">.</span>
<span id="result_box">Example: 0.019</span></span></span>mS=19uS=16NOP (<span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">In the present case, ASM file</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style="">)</span></span>
<span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""><span id="result_box"> 0.023mS=23uS=20NOP</span></span><span lang="EN" style="">
<span class="shorttext"> 0.015mS=15uS=12NOP</span>

<span class="shorttext">6.Modify "ASM 458-917 RPM delay value " ASM </span></span><span id="result_box"><span id="result_box">"</span><span class="shorttext">NOP" </span><span class="hps">number,</span><span class="shorttext"> </span><span class="hps">reducing or increasing</span><span class="shorttext">.</span></span>
<span id="result_box"><span id="result_box">The blue line</span><span class="shorttext">, "1" </span><span class="hps">value.</span>(Excel=I260&mdash;I515)<span style=""> </span>Example: 0.018</span></span>mS=18uS=12NOP (<span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">In the present case, ASM file</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style="">)</span></span>
<span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""><span id="result_box"> 0.023mS=23uS=17NOP</span></span><span lang="EN" style="">
<span class="shorttext"> 0.015mS=15uS=9NOP</span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style="">7.</span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style=""> Enter the</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">output</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">time "</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style="">dwell".</span> </span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">In the present case, ASM file:1296uS</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">8.</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">Enter the</span></span><span lang="EN" style=""> <span class="hps">RPM</span> <span class="hps">limiter</span> <span class="hps">value</span>.
<span class="hps">The</span> <span class="hps">EXCEL</span> <span class="hps">P4 -</span> <span class="hps">P81</span> <span class="hps">line and the</span> <span class="hps">C4 -</span> <span class="hps">C81</span> <span class="hps">help</span>.</span><span style=""> </span><span style=""></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">In the present case, ASM file:9973RPM=C27&mdash;P27</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">9. Create</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">HEX</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">file</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">using</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style=""> </span></span><span class="hps"><span lang="EN" style="">compiler</span></span><span class="shorttext"><span lang="EN" style="">.</span></span></p>
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6"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="19" semihidden="false" unhidewhenused="false" qformat="true" name="Subtle Emphasis"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="21" semihidden="false" unhidewhenused="false" qformat="true" name="Intense Emphasis"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="31" semihidden="false" unhidewhenused="false" qformat="true" name="Subtle Reference"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="32" semihidden="false" unhidewhenused="false" qformat="true" name="Intense Reference"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="33" semihidden="false" unhidewhenused="false" qformat="true" name="Book Title"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="37" name="Bibliography"></w:lsdexception><w:lsdexception locked="false" priority="39" qformat="true" name="TOC Heading"></w:lsdexception></w:latentstyles></xml><![endif]><![if gte mso 10]><style type="text/css"> Style Definitions */table.MsoNormalTable{mso-style-name:"Normál táblázat";mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;mso-style-noshow:yes;mso-style-priority:99;mso-style-qformat:yes;mso-style-parent:"";mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;mso-para-margin-top:0cm;mso-para-margin-right:0cm;mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:0cm;line-height:115%;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}</style><![endif]><p class="MsoNormal">Hi CDI gr8flyer55.
Yes.
I will soon show phases, with pictures.
The phases are described:
1.Enter your ignition curve green lane.( Excel= E4E259 line).
2.Optimize 'RETLW value "(Excel = K1).
It is that "ASM RETLW value (hex)" (Excel = NO4 - NO259) line.
Do not be a "00FF" greater.(1 table value register=8 bit=00FFmax value).
3.Take ASM file.
4.Copy into 'RETLW ASM value (hex) "(Excel = NO4 - NO259 line).
5.Modify "RETLW value " ASM. "NOP" number, reducing or increasing.
Example:
0.019mS=19uS=16NOP (In the present case, ASM file).
0.023mS=23uS=20NOP.
0.015mS=15uS=12NOP.
6.Modify "ASM 458-917 RPM delay value " ASM "NOP" number, reducing or increasing.
The blue line, "1" value.(Excel=I260&mdash;I515).
Example:
0.018mS=18uS=12NOP (In the present case, ASM file).
0.023mS=23uS=17NOP.
0.015mS=15uS=9NOP .
7. Enter the output time "dwell". In the present case, ASM file:1296uS .
8. Enter the RPM limiter value.
The EXCEL P4 - P81 line and the C4 - C81 help. In the present case, ASM file:9973RPM=C27&mdash;P27.
9. Create HEX file using compiler.

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Old 08-21-2011 | 05:39 AM
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Thank you Nyemi !!
Very useful information indeed. I will try to post a "text" version of the original ASM file I have for my curve that works so well for me. This way, you will only have to copy and then paste into notepad, save it and rename it with the .ASM extention to have the source code for editing. Should work if RCU can handle that long of a text. It ends up being 8 pages long with the retlw values being most of the pages. If that method fails, I'll convert it to a PDF file that you can actually download and save.

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I agree that will probably work. Nyemi did a good job of keeping the lines short, so line wrapping shouldn't be a problem. I also notice that RC Universe does allow code tags, for example:

{code} insert the asm code {/code}

Replace the "{}" with brackets "[]".

The advantage of code tags, if needed, is that formatting should remain intact.

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