Its always something So I was just going over my newly aquired stash of 5 engines and I have: one 14cc Kioritz, one 23.6cc Kioritz, one unknown brand that looks just like the craftsman weedie that I also got which is of unknow displacement, and an old JC Penny weedie that looks like the Craftsman as well.

My issue is that I hear the Kioritz 23.6cc are awsome little engines, but I don't see any of the manufacturers offing parts for these to be converted. Are they the same in dimention as the Ryobi, Homie, or other popular conversion engine?

I am thinking of using the 14cc on a purpose built plane that should weigh about 6lbs and have a fuselage made of aluminum U tube....hum.

Hi,

Forget the 14cc, it's a dog. Been there done that. No power for the weight. If the 23.6cc is an older model, it's a great engine. Would be a very good engine even if it's not an older model. Can't tell you about parts as I make my own. For mounting I just install four studs with nuts to hold the backplate on. These studs then go through the firewall and get nuts/washers behind. If the engine needs rings, look up Frank Bowman in New Mexico. If you can't make a prop adapter, try Whacker engines. I highly recommend going to electronic ignition such as the CH units. Saves weight, easier starting, and more power as you can optimize the timing.

AV8TOR

Originally I have been interested in doing the gas/methanol glow treatment to the engine. Would this be fool hearted? I figure it would weigh less, and be easier to goof with. I guess that I will be giving Whacker engines a call. I ahve no percision metal working tools (hammer and dremel)

What thrust could I expect form the 14cc? I am not expecting much as I read all of the archives that I could find on it. I am wondering if I can use it succesfully on a minimalist aircraft built very light. Basically a pole, wing and tail surfaces. If not, maybe I can mount it on a boogie board and make an RC swamp boat out of it?

Thanks for all of your help!

It can be done. If you search the posts for a 16cc Echo/Kioritz you will find the info about the one I did a couple of years ago. I wouldn't do it again as the engine weighs the same as a 21, 22, or 23cc Kioritz and doesn't have much power. It flew my 10 lb. airplane adequately, no great vertical but aerobatic, at sea level but was underpowered when I moved to an elevation of 4400 feet. (And this was all with hop up modifications.) I would vote for the swamp boat idea. I don't know that you could build a 6 lb. airplane with an almost 3 lb. motor that would hold together!

AV8TOR

I'll just have to make sure to fly it awayfrom me at all times

After doing some research here I have decided that the three bigger engines are Poulans. The only thing that sucks is that they have the dreaded spring retained exhaust. IS there anything that I can do with it?

As for the 14cc beastie, how does running two of them on one plane sound? I want to do a twin, and two little guys would probably fit the bill, no? I also want to run it on gas/methanol. I guess that I just can't do anything stock.

my student is transferring a mculloh 18 cc to glow.fired it up the other day and it was scary.it screamed.hes waiting for a carb of a g23 that works with glow.he drilled the passages out himself in the carb.maybe thats whay it screamed.but he couldnt get a reliable idle and midrange.hes also doing the methanol glow mix to try to save fuel costs.ill watch this thread and post better results.

Thanks, Buck. That is some good news. I can't wait to hear how it turns out.