Hi I just recieved my Brushless motor and ESC ,on the forum they say to connect the ESC to the Batt and pu the reciver wire to #3, but do I have to removed any of the other wires on the reciver ie.#4 ,#6 or just leave them all plugged in??? Will the ESC do the rest..I moved my motor away from my pinion to set it up...Please let me know...[sm=pirate.gif]

your brushless set up is all you need .....plug the battery and where it goes and plug the other wire from your brushless speed control into channel 3 and forget all other wires ...just plug in everything else where it goes ....get all vibration out of your heli ...all.

Xcell123 see my post for that tip ...see my profile ...new stuff on 36

Yeah so I pluged the Motor and ESC ,it comes on and the motor goes "da na da na" then its as if it wants to do something but nothing happens. I can move the props around but the motor wont turn and I cant move the main props left and right..Should I take off the gyro? Is that messing it up???Thanks

OK I have the same ESC I think, let's begin, my esc beeps twice, once saying "power on" which is the first time. Then it beeps again saying "got signal PUNCH IT" if it doens't have signal it won't go, this sounds like the problem. I'll say that the plug is in the wrong spot, I used number four, so it should go right next to the tail servo plug in the Rx. PLEASE don't put the gyro on the motor, that's a mistake I made as both of the wires going to the two look the same. ALSO a common problem is having the plug in backwards, so flip it around and re-plug.

PS: the power wires should be in parallel (patched directly into) the wires that go into the battery female connector.

To sum up ...

N.A setup

1 - aileron
2 - elevator
3 - throttle
4 - tail/rudder
5 - unused /gyro settings
6 - collective

Battery -> two wire side of esc
Three wire side of esc -> Motor
servo connection from esc -> ch# 3 on the receiver
The existing battery plug and motor connection from the receiver and be taped to the receiver as they will no longer be used. All the other servo's are left as is. This is assuming you are using the walkera receiver. If not, there won't be extra plugs


If by moving the main props left and right you mean the aileron/elevator functions are not working then you may not have the servo plug connected right ways around to the receiver as thecheatscalc suggested. Check the wire colors against the existing servo connections to the receiver to ensure the proper orientation. Signal = yellow/white, + power = red/orange, ground = black/brown generally. If this doesn't fix the problem, proceed to the next item.

If the motor won't spin up at all there is a good chance the esc is not seeing 0 throttle. You made need to adjust the throttle trim downwards to enable it to spin up. If that doesn't help you could also try reversing the throttle channel (after securing the heli and being ready to unplug the battery if things go awry).

I just received my Align 420LF and 25A ESC w/governor mode. There are no battery connectors with it.
How has everyone else connected it to the battery?

I use Deans plug.

I guess I should have ordered something when I ordered this stuff. I thought I'd have everything I needed.
I suppose I can cut the one off the receiver and just replace it later.

Are the Deans plug available everywhere? I'm assuming you put one on your ESC, one on the battery and one on the charger, right?

I bought mine at Aeromicro, you can find it at most hobby and on line stores that carry electric stuffs.

http://www.aeromicro.com/Catalog/dea...ck_1719687.htm

got a walkera brushless motor for my 36 but it is the medium size and just barely fits. the short one is 10mm less in length. i got the longer one to fit but it is very tight. will this be a problem? will it make the frame weaker or stonger in a crash? it is still a 380 brushless just longer , will performance be any different? any and all opinions are appreciated.

also had a bad experience with hobby e-store. they are in the U.S.A. but still order their parts from asia.

Ok I'll try that ,but you said plug it into #4 on the RX there is something already pluged in there should I remove whats in #4 and plug the ESC in #4??? And what do you mean dont put the Gyro on the Motor??? THanks[sm=pirate.gif]

Do not put the main motor into #4. That is the rudder channel. #3 is the throttle.

the thing in 4 is ur servo or gyro...
u plug ur motor to ur esc and the esc into 3

I got my 420LF and 25A ESC hooked up, but programming it isn't as straight forward as the instructions imply.
Has anyone figured it out yet?

I figured out how to set up the Align ESC. Works great now.

http://www.align.com.tw/html/en/c_rindexe.htm

also check

http://www.trextuning.com/

good data at these for application to 36 as well.. can you guys upload your models into your hanger here? I managed to get a few of mine in the data sheets.

Do well

Just so everyone knows, the problem isn't finding the Align instructions on how to do it (instructions come with the ESC). The problem is that they don't work.

What has been throwing us off is that, if we follow the instructions, we hear a lot of tones and melodies and think we're in setup mode. But, none of the settings take and as we move the throttle from zero to anything, the motor starts up. That's because we're not really in setup mode.

As inline posted earlier (and I found out last night), with the 36 transmitter/receiver, you have to turn on the transmitter with the throttle set to zero (not full as the instructions say). Then plug in the ESC and as the tones plays put the throttle to full. You'll hear a FULL confirmation melody then nothing. Put the throttle to zero and you'll hear a ZERO confirmation melody.

Here's what I did to set my ESC to:
1. No Brake (low)
2. Motor timing medium (mid)
3. Battery protection medium (mid)
4. Helicopter 1 - soft start without governor (mid)

After you hear the Zero Throttle confirmation melody you'll hear:

* 5 single beeps about one second apart. DURING those beeps you set the throttle. Since mine was already in the zero position, I did nothing.
After the beeps you'll hear a confirmation melody.

* Next you'll hear 5 double beeps. DURING those beeps, I set the throttle to Mid position.
After the beeps you'll hear a confirmation melody.

* Next you'll hear 5 triple beeps. Since my throttle was already set to Mid position, I did nothing.
After the beeps you'll hear a confirmation melody.

* Next you'll hear 5 quadruple beeps. Since my throttle was already set to Mid position, I did nothing.
After the beeps you'll hear a confirmation melody.

After this last confirmation melody, you'll get a bunch of never-ending single beeps. Put the throttle to Zero to save your settings and the beeps will stop. Unplug the ESC and turn off the transmitter.


The soft start works. My 36 still jerks a little when I start it up, but no where near as bad as before. It may jerk less (or more) depending on the size of the pinion on your motor. I have an 11T, 13T and 15T, but went with the 11T (same as stock motor) because I thought it would put less strain on the motor and therefore save battery power. However, it could be that using the 15T (for example) would mean that I could use less blade pitch because the rotor would spin faster. Maybe less pitch would mean the drag would be reduced to the point that the battery would last longer. Certainly the higher rotor speed before take off would give more stability.

does anyone know how to set up the walkera brushless motor with the walkera esc? i tested mine last night and it starts so hard that the heli spins counter clockwise very hard. i can correct this with the rudder but then it wants to spin clockwise. i really need help with this. also it seems my head speed is really really fast now. maybe it's just me but i flew a blade while waiting for parts and , wow my 36's head speed is way faster. i know they are 2 different helis but what a difference. i'm going to mess the gyro tonight and see if something is out of whack.


p.s. i crashed it 2 weeks ago and ordered new parts. i replaced the motor, boom, boom supports , tail servo, and main blade rotor screw. (had to split the frame to get the motor to fit , they sent a 380 motor that was 10mm too long. it fits but it is tight.) before the crash it flew fine with stock motor and align main blades. i have no vibration (not counting the start up spinning) i am also having a problem with it just quiting for no reason. spin it up and sometimes it will just stop like it has lost signal or power?? and the tail blades will stop responding (gyro flashing) and then a minute later they will reset and work fine . very puzzled.


sorry for rambling i flew it once and got a taste of flight and now i just want it back in the air!! please help.

First off...... The Walkera is designed for the main rotor to rotate clockwise ( not that it can't go
the other way ). A couple of reasons why it may spin counter clockwise is , the gyro is set to
the wrong direction, or the tail drive belt is slipping.

Yes the headspeed on a 36 is WAY faster than a Blade because the 36 is brushless. Just set your
throttle and pitch curves so it feels comfortable.

The factory gyro is kinda cheesy , but it works OK for tail in basics.

The only reason that the motor would quit midflight is because of radio interference or the cheesy
Walkera ESC sensed a low voltage condition.

The flashing gyro LED indicates no radio ( tx ) reception.

I think the gyro is cheesy. It seems at this stage with my flying that the gyro is pretty much good for the normal tail in flying around. I was hovering at about 4 feet and wanted to do a 360. All it did was just over a 180, so i was tail out and i sat her down quick as i cant at this stage hover tail out. I can hover well, and can hover tail at 3 and 9 0clock. But for total tail out at 12. thats another story. It does'nt help that the gyro isnt wanting to do what i want it too. I am looking into a CSM micro or futaba. If the heli is unpredictable then how can i develop my flying skills.

I just forget the gyro all together, you get used to it and it's not that much harder to fly. No it's not uncontrolable, I HAVE flown in winds without it, and I can't even pull a side in hover yet!

ok I meant earlier that the ESC plugs into the Rx like any other servo, as that's what it is, just it moves the motor instead of pitch/whatnot. I decided, what the heck let's put the gyro back on for the maiden flight of the brushless, just so it's not a wreck. So I go out and plug it in unthinkingly putting it in the ESC's plug instead of the tail servo as they have the same colored wires (pink white black) not noticing that it was infact the motor. so I take it out and fly, it did pretty well actually, but the gyro "range" switch made it so my motor was limited. (this was on a VERY windy day by the way) I found it odd that everyonce and a while it would spaz starting up the motor when I was moving it. I couldn't find the problem and thought it must be interference. I kept flying until I knifed it into the ground, and took it home. After fixing it I decided I'd live without the gyro as it wasn't doing a thing when the heli was spun by wind. (my heli would dip up and down when tail was applied which was a slight problem). While removing it I found the problem and that's what I meant by putting the gyro on the motor.

I found the stock gyro good for a tail in fly around, but thats all. I can do all my side on hovers and i'm working on my tail out hover now. The problem is , is that when i try to spin her right around , she wont go right around. I will look at a futaba 240 i think.

Yes........ The Walkera gyro will not allow you to position the tail accurately. Do NOT attempt
to rotate the tail around to a nose in hover, Also do NOT attempt forward flight. The only
solution is to upgrade to a quality gyro that offers predictable response.

I would not recommend flying without a gyro. Yes you can hover without one, but advanced
flying is basically impossible without one.

Where and what is the Gyro "range switch"??? And how do you adjust it???[sm=pirate.gif]

Hi guys been away for awhile but i am bk.

HI gtx nice one on the esc probs i think you have cured all our problems, nice post this should help us all out. I am thinking of buying some carbon fiber kits from grand rc to jazz up my heli carbon main blades etc, has anyone elde done this or any thoughts on this at all,it should all fit on my 36 shouldnt it.