<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Hey guys,

Anyone knows where can I purchase UAV equipment such as autopilots and data-link systems to ship overseas without requiring an export permit because this just takes too long and I'm on a deadline to finish my UAV University project. I know for a fact that for MicroPilot and Attopilot products I have to apply for an export permit and it will take ages .. any other ideas ?

Thanks.</span>

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Thanks !

There is a good reason for some technology not to be in certain hands. Why are you trying to get around US law?

For a compnay or individual to violate the terms set forth in the ITAR regulations administered by the U.S. Department of State is a very good way for someone to become imprisoned for a very long time. UAV technology is pretty much completely controlled under export laws, be it product or intellectual property.

For people to assist others in circumventing the law is covered under conspiracy statues and carries the same penalties.

Ya'll have fun helping pump products and information out to people you don't know. You cannot hide behind a screen name. When DHS comes knocking it will not be a happy day.

I smell a RAT.

3 months ago you said you had 12 years experience with RC. You didn't post for 3 months, then you come back a say you have 7 years experience and your asking for help in illegal exporting US autopilot items to your country.

Your asking question like "can the airplane takeoff and land it self ?" and "software needs to be accurate and precise".

Im going to report you to the FBI if you ask ONE MORE TIME, ANYWHERE ON THESE FORUMS ABOUT EXPORTING AUTOPILOT ITEMS.

good idea

good idea

Right on. This is called "Spear Phishing" and has become a popular form of attack on the US. They target specific groups to gain money, secrets, etc.

In one Linkedin group they asked the question "What is the best weapon of mass destruction?" I can't believe how many people tried to help them out. We need to be way more careful these days sincewe are at war.

You go ahead and do that sir, I will keep on asking questions for all i know your the one who's gonna get picked up since you're the newb here ! (I will be eagerly waiting for their call).

FYI,
I do have 12 years of (Nitro Engines Experience) since I used to be in nitro trucks and you were referring to a thread I posted for selecting an engine for a model that has nothing to do with our conversation. And I also have 7+ years of experience in building airplanes as I mentioned before in another post for building my UAV project, and just to correct you it was 18 days where I did not post anything I don't know where u got your 3 months from.

The airplane does need to take off and land itself and it also needs to be accurate and precise, I believe every FPVer wants to achieve that in their system if your trying to accuse me of planning any terroristic attacks then I suggest you leave this hobby because pessimist creatures like you who are destroying our hobby and spreading negativity and you're not welcomed here yall !

P.S. I never broke any rule and will never do, and I do believe that these things should not fall in the wrong hands. My case was just a matter of bad timing I needed to get my gear asap since the export permit takes up to two months and I had limited time. There are a lot of vendors who ships these things without permits but lower quality, if someone with bad intentions would want one im sure an export permit wont stop him he can easily apply for the permit, or build his own for all I know, or even buy the ready lower quality ones !!

It's people like you who spread bad ideas to the world please get your facts right before starting to accuse people of things you would do !!

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You brought this on yourself by trying to avoid the export laws. Anyone who read your post has<span style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; " class="Apple-style-span">sufficient</span>reason for suspicion. Your reply makes you even more suspicious.

I agree with Larry here. The OP has huge holes in his story. First this id a " University project"? Why does it have to leave the country? It this is a business venture then why did he not reserch the export laws before submitting a bid? I work for a DOD contractor and as such I have had to have training on contracts, bid proposals and export laws. What I am seeing here is that the OP is either not bright, criminal or fishing for information that can be dangerous to national security. Perhaps we should ask the question to the moderator if he feels this should be forwarded to the authorities. Pesonally because of the potential security issues I have to ask why RCU even has a forum for RPVs at all?

Larry, <div>
</div><div>I'm sorry if this thread sounded suspicious I just don't know much about US laws and thought that it was just another stupid rule since there are more companies that doesn't require export permits than the ones who actually does require ones, I just thought it shouldn't apply to educational purposes. </div><div>
</div><div>Speedracer,</div><div>
</div><div>This is my University senior project and I study overseas, I do not live in the united states and some of the vendors that I want to purchase my items from do not ship outside the US or Canada without export permits that's why the question was raised.</div><div>
</div><div>I believe that RPVs and UAVs are an exponentially growing hobby and industry and we can't really put a stop to these forums it will always keep on multiplying. I read the the FAA are trying to regulate the activities of drones which is good but there's still a lot of work to be done, I don't mind if you guys wanna forward this to the moderator just do whatever you think is right. </div><div>
</div><div>please define "OP" ? </div><div>
</div><div>Thanks.</div>

If you do not live in, or go to school in the US, why does your profile state you are from LA, CA, USA. ? Even your profile nis deceptive.

That's because I am "From" Los Angeles, it doesn't say where I'm currently at it says where are you from !  I apologize if this was misleading.

Yall?? Now I KNOW your not from California!

You should stick to whatever technology is available in your own country.