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Old 12-11-2010, 03:30 PM
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Default Shortening plug wire

Anyone messed with shortening the plug wire on the ignition box that comes with the DLE 30? Its a little long for my taste in my specific installation. looks like all you would need is the correct shrink wrap.
Old 12-11-2010, 03:39 PM
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You should use a CM-6 style RCEXL repair boot from you favorite dealer
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You should use a CM-6 style RCEXL repair boot from you favorite dealer
You could also reuse your existing shielded plug cap / connector. You would need to replace the existing shrink sleeve with new as you will have to cut the old sleeve off to remove the existing cap.

Jedijody has published pictures several times of how the caps are assembled.
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You should use a CM-6 style RCEXL repair boot from you favorite dealer
You could also reuse your existing shielded plug cap / connector. You would need to replace the existing shrink sleeve with new as you will have to cut the old sleeve off to remove the existing cap.

Jedijody has published pictures several times of how the caps are assembled.
I thought it looked like all I would need is some shrink wrap. The shrink wrap looks like it's the good stuff with the adheasive/sealant inside.

Old 12-11-2010, 04:07 PM
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You should use a CM-6 style RCEXL repair boot from you favorite dealer
You could also reuse your existing shielded plug cap / connector. You would need to replace the existing shrink sleeve with new as you will have to cut the old sleeve off to remove the existing cap.

Jedijody has published pictures several times of how the caps are assembled.
I thought it looked like all I would need is some shrink wrap. The shrink wrap looks like it's the good stuff with the adheasive/sealant inside.

Not enough words in your post to know where you're going with that shrink wrap stuff. At any rate, you could remove and reattach the plug cap and use shrink tape, shrink wrap to replace the shrink sleeve as it is just there for security and to strengthen the mechanical connection between the plug lead and the cap.

You can not just cut a chunk out of the cable and reattach the ends. That would probably create a cobbled up mess that would probably lead to arcing between the center conductor and the shield, shorting of the cable and / or the possibility of RFI.
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The only right way to shorten the wire is with a new plug cap kit. There is a steel clamp that holds the two halves of the cap together, clamps the shielding to the cap, and prevents the wire from being able to be pulled out of the cap. Also, the tabs on the cap many times will break off when trying to be reused.

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The only right way to shorten the wire is with a new plug cap kit. There is a steel clamp that holds the two halves of the cap together, clamps the shielding to the cap, and prevents the wire from being able to be pulled out of the cap. Also, the tabs on the cap many times will break off when trying to be reused.

Well advised! I hope the OP calls you for a replacement!

I have reused the caps before and the tabs did not break. I did replace the clamp with a new one from a connector I have at work though.
Old 12-11-2010, 05:08 PM
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Do they make a cap so I can convert from a regular size plug to one of the little rim fire plugs?
Old 12-11-2010, 05:29 PM
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Not a conversion so to speak but a spark plug cap kit for 1/4-32 plugs, yes. You can put any spark plug cap on the ignition, Rcexl offers the kits for 1/4-32 (both 90 and 120 degree),  CM-6 type (10mm non-resistor), 14mm 5/8" hex and 3/4-13/16" hex.
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Yes..It comes with solder so you can solder it together yourself...
Old 12-11-2010, 09:56 PM
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Yes..It comes with solder so you can solder it together yourself...
Yes and the solder smells bad. I do not use it.I use a solder that is 2% silver and you need flux for stainless steel. Got to fly the DL 20 today.
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Grumpy, it's good to hear that you're feeling well enough to go flying. Dan.
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Default RE: Shortening plug wire

ORIGINAL: jedijody

The only right way to shorten the wire is with a new plug cap kit. There is a steel clamp that holds the two halves of the cap together, clamps the shielding to the cap, and prevents the wire from being able to be pulled out of the cap. Also, the tabs on the cap many times will break off when trying to be reused.

Spoken like a true salesman,
I got a little busy so I had my 5 year old do it for me. Just kidding, I truely do apreciate the help but I didn't see the need for the kit unless you can't come up with the correct crimp. All you really need is the correct crimp and shrink wrap. Im sure after a few times the tabs may break if your not carfull.

Thanks Again
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:09 AM
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Sounds like you had already decided what you were going to do before you made the original post?
Old 12-12-2010, 11:19 AM
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Sounds like you had already decided what you were going to do before you made the original post?
And it looks like you have more experience with cables than you let on in your original post! Looks good.
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Sounds like you had already decided what you were going to do before you made the original post?
I definetly decided I was going to do it. Once I found out there was a repair kit available I wasn't afraid to mess it up.
Old 12-12-2010, 12:46 PM
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Default RE: Shortening plug wire

The downside of shortening the wire is that you may need a new ignition module if the engine is to be moved to a different application. The shortened wire can not be extended.
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The only right way to shorten the wire is with a new plug cap kit. There is a steel clamp that holds the two halves of the cap together, clamps the shielding to the cap, and prevents the wire from being able to be pulled out of the cap. Also, the tabs on the cap many times will break off when trying to be reused.

Spoken like a true salesman,
I got a little busy so I had my 5 year old do it for me. Just kidding, I truely do apreciate the help but I didn't see the need for the kit unless you can't come up with the correct crimp. All you really need is the correct crimp and shrink wrap. Im sure after a few times the tabs may break if your not carfull.

Thanks Again
Didn't and never dotry to sell anyone anything in these forums, didn't even state whether I have replacement cap kits to offer, they are available from many sources. I merely gave you good advice, it was free, do with it what you wish. The only reason my business name is in my signature is because it's required by RCU forum rules.
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This may be a place to get that shrink tube.
Adhesive Lined Heat Shrink Tube http://www.sherco-auto.com/heatshrink.htm#HST200
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The only right way to shorten the wire is with a new plug cap kit. There is a steel clamp that holds the two halves of the cap together, clamps the shielding to the cap, and prevents the wire from being able to be pulled out of the cap. Also, the tabs on the cap many times will break off when trying to be reused.

Spoken like a true salesman,
I got a little busy so I had my 5 year old do it for me. Just kidding, I truely do apreciate the help but I didn't see the need for the kit unless you can't come up with the correct crimp. All you really need is the correct crimp and shrink wrap. Im sure after a few times the tabs may break if your not carfull.

Thanks Again
Didn't and never do try to sell anyone anything in these forums, didn't even state whether I have replacement cap kits to offer, they are available from many sources. I merely gave you good advice, it was free, do with it what you wish. The only reason my business name is in my signature is because it's required by RCU forum rules.
I think he was trying to poke fun not offend... I know you deal with people that have no clue of what they are doing, people that just "think" they know what they are doing and people that actually know what they are doing, so you have to cover all bases.
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jedijody

He is correct I was playing, If I offended you I apologize your efforts and advice here are appreciated and well respected and I thank you for your post.

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Grumpy, it's good to hear that you're feeling well enough to go flying. Dan.
Well do not feel to bad but live with pain most of the time. Got fly again today.I wish it would turn winter here so I could get some airplane work done and not be tempted to go flying.DL 20 is a monster little motor just like the 30.
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Grumpy, it's good to hear that you're feeling well enough to go flying. Dan.
Well do not feel to bad but live with pain most of the time. Got fly again today.I wish it would turn winter here so I could get some airplane work done and not be tempted to go flying.DL 20 is a monster little motor just like the 30.
Thank You
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I am glad to hear you are enjoying that "monster" DLE20. It sound like I will need to get one around May when it warms up. Be sure when you do go flying, not to catch a cold. Same way in puplic places...be care-full. When you cough it really hurts the ribs. Take Care, Best Regards Capt,n
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Yes..It comes with solder so you can solder it together yourself...
Where and what do you solder together? I have a new 1/4 cap kit but don't know how to use it.

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