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I hate when something falls off on a madian
Might just be the mic but that engine sounds too rich to me. The take off the engine 4-stroked through the transtion and it 4 stroked a couple times during the flight.
Might just be the mic but that engine sounds too rich to me. The take off the engine 4-stroked through the transtion and it 4 stroked a couple times during the flight.
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I just purchased a couple of Brillelli 26ss engines and Im mixing 40:1 lawnboy ashless for break in. I just picked up some Mobil 1 Synthetic but don't know at what ratio to mix?
As far as the engines go, all I can say is awesome! Wow! When they re open their site I will be ordering a few more.
Any help would be wonderfull
Thanks
As far as the engines go, all I can say is awesome! Wow! When they re open their site I will be ordering a few more.
Any help would be wonderfull
Thanks
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*** The Wait is Over ***
The Brillelli Boyz should be open for business tomorrow. If you haven't bought a Brillelli engine, now is the time. I'm still working on my Somenzini YAK 54 with the Brillelli 40cc but when I'm finished with it I plan on getting the 46cc.
Nice looking plane Sturtz. What size prop are you running?
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18x10 , but I may move up to a 20x8 soon. Was going to fly it today but after putting a spinner on it and the cowling I see that I have more work ahead. Spinner must be out of balance and the cowl will need to be secured for gas engine use . Forgot about those two little details. [X(] Doh ~~
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Mobil's literature (on their website), and on the jug says 50:1 or leaner. They don't have a "hard" ratio they recommend, at least not on the containers that I bought.
I also am not running it, preferring instead the Pennzoil Outdoor at 40:1. Seems to work real well on the Brillelli's, regardless of size, and I have 'em all (or have had).
The worst thing about oil mixes in gas motors is folks that try to run gassers as if they were NITRO motors. That "set 'em rich" habit just doesn't do good things. Best is to adjust for "optimal" rpm when fully warmed up, and if sagging occurs in verticals, back off maybe 1/8th turn.
My 60 runs a SOLID 175*, and it is NOT rich. Plug looks GREAT, and transition is very good.
I also am not running it, preferring instead the Pennzoil Outdoor at 40:1. Seems to work real well on the Brillelli's, regardless of size, and I have 'em all (or have had).
The worst thing about oil mixes in gas motors is folks that try to run gassers as if they were NITRO motors. That "set 'em rich" habit just doesn't do good things. Best is to adjust for "optimal" rpm when fully warmed up, and if sagging occurs in verticals, back off maybe 1/8th turn.
My 60 runs a SOLID 175*, and it is NOT rich. Plug looks GREAT, and transition is very good.
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evfast,
The Mobil 1 2T should be a good synthetic oil for any of our engines. I would still go with about 50:1 though. I have tried as low as 70:1, but there was no difference in power or how clean the plug was, so I like a little extra oil to be safe. If the engine is tuned good, it will run clean on 50:1.
Scott
The Mobil 1 2T should be a good synthetic oil for any of our engines. I would still go with about 50:1 though. I have tried as low as 70:1, but there was no difference in power or how clean the plug was, so I like a little extra oil to be safe. If the engine is tuned good, it will run clean on 50:1.
Scott
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40cc. It starts right up within 3 or 4 whacks. Not bad for a brand new gas engine.
A bit more info on my Ratsrepus project. It came out to exactly 12LBs -5oz. That's just 1LB over what it weighed with the Saito150.
The plane is officially stated in the manual to handle a 160 2-stroke or a 180 4-stroke. I'm below the weight I would have been with the Saito 180.
SAITO 180 Engine (Only) Weight: 31 oz.
I do not suggest this plane to many folks because of the sad fact that the wing area is too low . I realize I'm going to be flying a 3/D plane with higher wing loading than normal. I knew this the first time I flew it with a Saito 150. I fly alot of warbirds so high wing loading is nothing new to me. And...... They don't look that much like the full-scale Ratsrepus to me.
"Ratsrepus" (a Haigh/Chappell design). (Superstar spelled backwards).
Seagull Superstar.
Wingspan:69.3"in
Wing Area:846 sq inches
Weight:12.5 Lbs
Length:62.6"in
I see they are now $199.00 or less at Horizon Hobbies.
A bit more info on my Ratsrepus project. It came out to exactly 12LBs -5oz. That's just 1LB over what it weighed with the Saito150.
The plane is officially stated in the manual to handle a 160 2-stroke or a 180 4-stroke. I'm below the weight I would have been with the Saito 180.
SAITO 180 Engine (Only) Weight: 31 oz.
I do not suggest this plane to many folks because of the sad fact that the wing area is too low . I realize I'm going to be flying a 3/D plane with higher wing loading than normal. I knew this the first time I flew it with a Saito 150. I fly alot of warbirds so high wing loading is nothing new to me. And...... They don't look that much like the full-scale Ratsrepus to me.
"Ratsrepus" (a Haigh/Chappell design). (Superstar spelled backwards).
Seagull Superstar.
Wingspan:69.3"in
Wing Area:846 sq inches
Weight:12.5 Lbs
Length:62.6"in
I see they are now $199.00 or less at Horizon Hobbies.
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CH is fixed timing. Scholl's is auto-advance. Have had both, both work well. Scholl is a little easier starting, slightly smoother, but couldn't notice power differences. Maybe Scott will chime in; he monitors this thread.
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Sturtz,I haven't fired mine up yet and it may not be until spring but I like the idea of "3 or 4 whacks". I take it that this is after you have choked it and got it to pop once?
Then I set the throttle somewhere above idle but less than a 1/4. Turn the ignition on , choke it to full and give it a big whack. It has popped on the first good flip everytime except once. Then I unchoke it completely and give it a big healthy whack and it starts.
Of course if my flying buddies (that goes for you Bob) are there it probably will not do it on the first flip. Like getting a child or dog to do a trick in front of others. Never works out.
Thanks to Bob I now have some 20"in props instead of the 18x10. I run premium gas mixed with BelRay Hr1 at 40:1. I was mixing at 50:1 with my 25GT but both engines seem to like the extra oil and they both run cooler now.
I taxied it around the driveway tonight. And I taxied over to my next door neighbors driveway. Then up and down the street .
Then on Interstate 40 west to Amarillo, Tx stopping off at Grandy's for coffee.. ~~~~~[&:][&:][&:]
Seriously.
Idle is nice and low... . ,,, and with Idle Down switch ON it's lower than any engine I got.
Transistion is smooth and quick after programming in the throttle curve. RPMs are lower now with the 20"in prop. Couldn't get a reading tonight,,, no sun light.
Took a few pics,, two turned out ok in the low light conditions. Should have washed it first. Guess I'll put the new wheel pants on after the maiden if it survives.[sm=omg_smile.gif]
Yup,,,, it's gonna be a brick compared to a UcanDo. But I don't intend on 3/D'ing it too much anyway. I flew it all winter and some this last spring then got tired of it. Hopefully the new engine will spark some new interest in flying it.
With a Saito 150 you could hover , knife edge,, etc. But it suffered from wing rock and would tip stall at the worst times so I never got it too low during hovers. I'm just hoping it has the pull of the 150 at least.
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Sturtz,
Nice looking pics. Man, that is some serious looking wide CF gear dude . I haven't got my YAK 54 with the Brillelli 40cc finished yet and I'm already looking at the 46cc and a plane to put it on. Looks like the Extra 260's are gaining popularity. Anyone have any idea what Extra 260 would be a good match up for the Brillelli 46cc? Not looking for 3D but don't want anything just marginal either.
Nice looking pics. Man, that is some serious looking wide CF gear dude . I haven't got my YAK 54 with the Brillelli 40cc finished yet and I'm already looking at the 46cc and a plane to put it on. Looks like the Extra 260's are gaining popularity. Anyone have any idea what Extra 260 would be a good match up for the Brillelli 46cc? Not looking for 3D but don't want anything just marginal either.
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It's a Graphtech CF gear for the FourStar 120 if my memory serves me right. Holds up well even on my landings.
Well,,, I must take back my starting procedure. I no longer need to prime the carb. Doing so will flood it . So it's choke , 1/4 throttle EI ON,, whack once or twice ,,, POP,,,and then un-choke and start.
This thing pulls nicely so far with the 20x8 NX. My only gripe is the carb set screw placement. I'm not getting my hand that close to a spinning prop.
Well,,, I must take back my starting procedure. I no longer need to prime the carb. Doing so will flood it . So it's choke , 1/4 throttle EI ON,, whack once or twice ,,, POP,,,and then un-choke and start.
This thing pulls nicely so far with the 20x8 NX. My only gripe is the carb set screw placement. I'm not getting my hand that close to a spinning prop.
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Hey Capt,,, I think he's almost ready to fly it now. I'll post the maiden results when he does. His new job is killing him. 11pm to 7am.
Been too windy here to fly since Sunday. Saturday on the otherhand was like a hot day in July. No wind and 90 deg.
Was informed a bit ago that my last post was moot. Many differant brands of gas engines cannot be adjusted while running.
Learn something new everyday.
Say,, which one of you did the trade in on a 25GT w/Mag for a new 46cc ? I ask because I'm buying it for another Spitfire I finished rebuilding last week.
Been too windy here to fly since Sunday. Saturday on the otherhand was like a hot day in July. No wind and 90 deg.
Was informed a bit ago that my last post was moot. Many differant brands of gas engines cannot be adjusted while running.
Learn something new everyday.
Say,, which one of you did the trade in on a 25GT w/Mag for a new 46cc ? I ask because I'm buying it for another Spitfire I finished rebuilding last week.
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CH is fixed timing. Scholl's is auto-advance. Have had both, both work well. Scholl is a little easier starting, slightly smoother, but couldn't notice power differences. Maybe Scott will chime in; he monitors this thread.
CH is fixed timing. Scholl's is auto-advance. Have had both, both work well. Scholl is a little easier starting, slightly smoother, but couldn't notice power differences. Maybe Scott will chime in; he monitors this thread.
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You can buy the C&H Synchro-Spark module and upgrade the fixed timing C&H ignition to variable advance for about $40.
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Actually I have the upgrade moduals for Syncro Spark and sell them for $29.95. The 46 on down run very well either way, but on some plane a smoother idle is nice if it is lightly built. Then the Syncro Spark is the way to go.
Scott
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Flew the SuperStar this evening. Took a pair of binoculars so I could do a range check. Everything was fine as it had been at the shop. Taxied out and took off. The plane flew just fine and felt balanced but what scared me was my new engine's rich setting. I was afraid it was going to load up. 4 stroking pretty bad. But I throttled up and it got a tad better so I continued flying at a high altitude just in case. The engine did fine. Just needs some more time and alot more needle adjustment toward the lean side.
Plane goes up and didn't seem to slow down even with the burbling rich settings. I even saw some exhaust when I got into the west side of the field and the sun was off to my right shoulder. So I knew it was way rich then. Plus I had some oily soot on the underside when I landed. Not alot,,, but it was there.
Anyway,,, after a few slow rolls and the vertical climb I felt secure in the fact it wasn't going to quit me so I kept flying in the old circle pattern. Took it back up and did a simulated landing at a fairly extreme high alpha position. At a 1/4 throttle or less it never did snap or stall which surprised me . The 20x8 prop makes the plane even slower with the rich settings but it sure seems to hang the bird up there real nice.
Still worried a bit about the high wing loading and taking Scott's advice for the first landing I came in a bit fast. I could have set down but I went around. Came in nice and slow , rolled to a stop. No rpm check,,,too rich to worry about.
Gotta redo some hinges but will report more later.
Plane goes up and didn't seem to slow down even with the burbling rich settings. I even saw some exhaust when I got into the west side of the field and the sun was off to my right shoulder. So I knew it was way rich then. Plus I had some oily soot on the underside when I landed. Not alot,,, but it was there.
Anyway,,, after a few slow rolls and the vertical climb I felt secure in the fact it wasn't going to quit me so I kept flying in the old circle pattern. Took it back up and did a simulated landing at a fairly extreme high alpha position. At a 1/4 throttle or less it never did snap or stall which surprised me . The 20x8 prop makes the plane even slower with the rich settings but it sure seems to hang the bird up there real nice.
Still worried a bit about the high wing loading and taking Scott's advice for the first landing I came in a bit fast. I could have set down but I went around. Came in nice and slow , rolled to a stop. No rpm check,,,too rich to worry about.
Gotta redo some hinges but will report more later.
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I flew my Giles 202 with the Brillelli 26cc again today. What a nice flying plane and the 26cc just pulls it around nicely. I can't wait to get My QQ YAK 54 with the Brillelli 40cc in the air.
Sturtz,
Looks like you have a nice combo there. I saw in Horizons new cataloge that they are selling them for $99.99. Is that why you got it? What a bargain.
Sturtz,
Looks like you have a nice combo there. I saw in Horizons new cataloge that they are selling them for $99.99. Is that why you got it? What a bargain.
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I hate when something falls off on a madian
Might just be the mic but that engine sounds too rich to me. The take off the engine 4-stroked through the transtion and it 4 stroked a couple times during the flight.
I hate when something falls off on a madian
Might just be the mic but that engine sounds too rich to me. The take off the engine 4-stroked through the transtion and it 4 stroked a couple times during the flight.
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That's why I refuse to own and fly a Madian. <G>
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Actually I have the upgrade moduals for Syncro Spark and sell them for $29.95. The 46 on down run very well either way, but on some plane a smoother idle is nice if it is lightly built. Then the Syncro Spark is the way to go.
Scott
Actually I have the upgrade moduals for Syncro Spark and sell them for $29.95. The 46 on down run very well either way, but on some plane a smoother idle is nice if it is lightly built. Then the Syncro Spark is the way to go.
Scott
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Erm, you're the one that told me it was about $40 more when I ordered my 46cc engine a while back. <G>
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CH has recently dropped thier price on the Syncro Spark unit. They came up with a unit that is cheeper to make, but works the same as the old one. That is why the price is lower now.