Buying a DA50
05-28-2007 | 02:01 PM
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Buying a DA50
I am searching online to purchase a DA50. Chiefaircraft, which is great has free shipping. Troybuiltmodels has a free prop. After getting the smoke muffler,prop guide,prop,etc, I am up to about $760 in the basket! I am just wondering if anyone else sells these that may have a special going, say, maybe a free doghouse to sleep in or something like that!
05-28-2007 | 03:18 PM
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RE: Buying a DA50
Holy smokes that is tempting! $370 shipped. WOW, I would love to know the difference between the DA50 and the DL50. I have never ran across that site or engine before.
05-28-2007 | 03:25 PM
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One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
the other........ummm....isn't
05-28-2007 | 03:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: exeter_acres
One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
That's what they said when the Datsun came over
05-28-2007 | 04:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: exeter_acres
One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
The DL50 is supported in the USA by DLUSA---For your info--The DA50 is NOT completely made in the USA...It is ASSEMBLED in the USA!!!--
There is an entire thread about this engine---I absolutely love my DL50 and having owned both the DA50 and the DL50 the DL50 is more user friendly....Here's a link to the thread..
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5532868/tm.htm
Some had a few teething problems in the beginning but Bob at DLUSA is QC,ing his engines before being shipped..
Contact Bob at www.dlusa.net for info-I'm NOT a Rep---Just a VERY satisfied DL50 customer!!! [8D]
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05-29-2007 | 06:29 PM
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RE: Buying a DA50
I look at what most of the 50cc sized Airplane manufactures use on their planes. DA's outnumber the others 10 to 1. Don't think I ever saw a DL as the recommend engine for one of these planes. I am sure it works just fine but I assume the plane providers know more about what works, than me or others do. Go with what you want and can afford.
05-29-2007 | 10:35 PM
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When you have carb problems with the DA call DL to get what they use The situation becomes very noticable when pulling up into a hover from low power settings. Brand loyalty is nice, but performance and reliability is better. No needed service beats needing service. Or have I missed something with all the engines I never had to send back because they always worked correctly?
The situation becomes very noticable when pulling up into a hover from low power settings. Brand loyalty is nice, but performance and reliability is better. No needed service beats needing service. Or have I missed something with all the engines I never had to send back because they always worked correctly?
05-29-2007 | 11:05 PM
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When you have carb problems with the DA call DL to get what they use The situation becomes very noticable when pulling up into a hover from low power settings. Brand loyalty is nice, but performance and reliability is better. No needed service beats needing service. Or have I missed something with all the engines I never had to send back because they always worked correctly?
When you have carb problems with the DA call DL to get what they use
The situation becomes very noticable when pulling up into a hover from low power settings. Brand loyalty is nice, but performance and reliability is better. No needed service beats needing service. Or have I missed something with all the engines I never had to send back because they always worked correctly?
BTW: I had no intention of starting a brand war of sorts. I just love to fly and I really enjoy all the nice folks I get to fly with. I drive a Lexus, my neighbor has a mini van. These kinds of things are whats makes us different. If we all showed up at the flying field with the exact same field box,airplanes and engines, more than likely, no one would come back next week. Thanks for everyones' thoughts as always.
05-30-2007 | 10:23 AM
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I also ordered the recommended carbon plate for the carb.
BTW: I had no intention of starting a brand war of sorts. I just love to fly and I really enjoy all the nice folks I get to fly with. I drive a Lexus, my neighbor has a mini van. These kinds of things are whats makes us different. If we all showed up at the flying field with the exact same field box,airplanes and engines, more than likely, no one would come back next week. Thanks for everyones' thoughts as always.
ORIGINAL: Silversurfer
When you have carb problems with the DA call DL to get what they use The situation becomes very noticable when pulling up into a hover from low power settings. Brand loyalty is nice, but performance and reliability is better. No needed service beats needing service. Or have I missed something with all the engines I never had to send back because they always worked correctly?
When you have carb problems with the DA call DL to get what they use
The situation becomes very noticable when pulling up into a hover from low power settings. Brand loyalty is nice, but performance and reliability is better. No needed service beats needing service. Or have I missed something with all the engines I never had to send back because they always worked correctly?
BTW: I had no intention of starting a brand war of sorts. I just love to fly and I really enjoy all the nice folks I get to fly with. I drive a Lexus, my neighbor has a mini van. These kinds of things are whats makes us different. If we all showed up at the flying field with the exact same field box,airplanes and engines, more than likely, no one would come back next week. Thanks for everyones' thoughts as always.
Kevin
05-30-2007 | 10:35 AM
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My DL turns a 22x10 at 7000rpm and has for the last 4 gallons of fuel and it doesn't have the midrange gurgle like the DA I had did i'm going to buy another as soon as i get back from AIT in October
05-30-2007 | 11:20 AM
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RE: Buying a DA50
ORIGINAL: Don M.
That's what they said when the Datsun came over
ORIGINAL: exeter_acres
One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
One is quality, backed up by EXCELLENT customer service, made in the US... by a company that supports are hobby and run by people who are in our hobby....
the other........ummm....isn't
That's what they said when the Datsun came over
And about Toyota.
By the way, which car company has had the highest number of recalls the past several years....
(clue: it begins with a T and ends with an a)Of course, I may have to try one of those DL50s!
05-30-2007 | 06:16 PM
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Kevin, How many DL50's do you have and what are they in?
Kevin, How many DL50's do you have and what are they in?
Although DA has worked on the issue with engines quitting at low throttle the problems haven't been completely resolved...My guess is that since the DL50 has a different reed block assembly the DA50's quitting at low throttle issues are associated with this...Additionally, DA still hasn't resolved the mid-range burble and the failure to be able to richen up the engine with their chosen carb...Another buddy that I know got so fed up with his engine that he finally got rid of it....The burble was killing him in certain 3D manuevers....And the engine would lean out at the upper throttle settings at times...
Although the DL50 engine is called a DA50 clone---If you look very closely there are few, if hardly any, parts that will interchange with the DA50...In other words, the DL50 engine is not a carbon copy of the DA50...The cylinder heads are different as the fins aren't cast the same---The crankcase, well that's obvious....The reed blocks are totally different---Point being is that there are enough differences with the two engines to explain why they run so differently.....
Kevin
05-30-2007 | 08:15 PM
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ORIGINAL: Kevin Greene
I have one DL50 and it is in a Chip Hyde Vision with a Chip Hyde canister muffler---More important is how many DA50's I've had and the headaches associated with them...I've personally owned two and my flying buddy has two. Since I'm the one wrenching on his planes I'm the one that has had to work on those too...That's four DA50's that I've essentially have "owned".
Although DA has worked on the issue with engines quitting at low throttle the problems haven't been completely resolved...My guess is that since the DL50 has a different reed block assembly the DA50's quitting at low throttle issues are associated with this...Additionally, DA still hasn't resolved the mid-range burble and the failure to be able to richen up the engine with their chosen carb...Another buddy that I know got so fed up with his engine that he finally got rid of it....The burble was killing him in certain 3D manuevers....And the engine would lean out at the upper throttle settings at times...
Although the DL50 engine is called a DA50 clone---If you look very closely there are few, if hardly any, parts that will interchange with the DA50...In other words, the DL50 engine is not a carbon copy of the DA50...The cylinder heads are different as the fins aren't cast the same---The crankcase, well that's obvious....The reed blocks are totally different---Point being is that there are enough differences with the two engines to explain why they run so differently.....
Kevin
ORIGINAL: lear31A
Kevin, How many DL50's do you have and what are they in?
Kevin, How many DL50's do you have and what are they in?
Although DA has worked on the issue with engines quitting at low throttle the problems haven't been completely resolved...My guess is that since the DL50 has a different reed block assembly the DA50's quitting at low throttle issues are associated with this...Additionally, DA still hasn't resolved the mid-range burble and the failure to be able to richen up the engine with their chosen carb...Another buddy that I know got so fed up with his engine that he finally got rid of it....The burble was killing him in certain 3D manuevers....And the engine would lean out at the upper throttle settings at times...
Although the DL50 engine is called a DA50 clone---If you look very closely there are few, if hardly any, parts that will interchange with the DA50...In other words, the DL50 engine is not a carbon copy of the DA50...The cylinder heads are different as the fins aren't cast the same---The crankcase, well that's obvious....The reed blocks are totally different---Point being is that there are enough differences with the two engines to explain why they run so differently.....
Kevin
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05-31-2007 | 12:36 AM
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He's not anywhere near the first to have sold the DA off for another engine. Brillelli is another that has been used to successfully replace and improve performance over a DA. It's always for the same reason. The DL may be an improvement on the DA design rather than a direct copy. Suffice to say that the differences between the DL and the DA are enough to eliminate the induction problems commonly associated with the DA.
There are quite a few good engines out there. The "best" one is the one that performs the best for you, and quite often it will not be the most popluar one. Unless you have been willing to spend a lot of money to obtain various 50cc engines the only one most will have any direect knowledge of will be with the one they own. Those that buy numerous engines, work on them for hire, or work with them for a living, have the opportunity to experience a much broader product base and develop a pretty good feel for which is better than another.
There are quite a few good engines out there. The "best" one is the one that performs the best for you, and quite often it will not be the most popluar one. Unless you have been willing to spend a lot of money to obtain various 50cc engines the only one most will have any direect knowledge of will be with the one they own. Those that buy numerous engines, work on them for hire, or work with them for a living, have the opportunity to experience a much broader product base and develop a pretty good feel for which is better than another.
