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Old 07-20-2003 | 12:51 PM
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I just got on the waiting list for the 110 xtreme. Should I order the stock mufflers or should I be ordering something else? I dont mind using some sort of high performance muffler, however I dont really want to mess around with tuning pipes. Isn there something in the middle?
Old 07-20-2003 | 07:33 PM
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The price of 579.00 does not include the muffler. That is the engine price with ignition.


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Old 07-20-2003 | 07:40 PM
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The engine performs very well on stock mufflers with more power than other 100cc engines. We knew that noise is an ever increasing problem with some fields and that canisters or tuned exhaust will become mandatory. We looked at the future and decided to make the engine work well with tuned exhaust. It has 170 degree exhaust duration which is known to be tuned exhaust type timing. All of the power figure we have quoted have been on stock type mufflers. All but one of the protoypes in the field are running stock mufflers.


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Old 07-20-2003 | 07:52 PM
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Keith,

Will headers or header flanges be available for the 110 for those of us that won't be running the stock mufflers??
Old 07-20-2003 | 08:17 PM
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I sure hope so but I haven't heard from K&S. I will contact them and see how they are coming.


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Old 07-20-2003 | 11:31 PM
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I thought the 55 had an introductory price of $499?

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Old 07-21-2003 | 01:33 AM
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Can somebody show me a pic or direct me to a pic of canasters? What are they and what is the advantage?
Old 07-21-2003 | 01:51 AM
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Crash 90. .go on the Aircraft International website. . in the "exhaust' part of the site are pics and diagrams of "Canisters" I am in the process of making a set of headers for my "soon to arrive" BME110 Xtreme. . its not hard to do, but no "already made" headers are yet available. Bme should have them in stock shortly, though.

You don't need to REALLY tune a "canister" but getting the header length close helps. I HIGHLY recommend the "M" canister from Pefa, that AI sells, for 50cc cylinders (until BME can start stocking their own proprietary exhaust cansiter setup), and make your own header out of KS "header pieces" available from several sources. Make the header pipe about 6-7" long, then go from there. You can expect to pick up anywhere form 100-300 rpm in most cases, using a proper length "Tuned canister' setup, and the noise level will diminish drastically.
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I am in the process of making a set of headers for my "soon to arrive" BME110 Xtreme. .
Kris^,

Where did you get the pattern to make the header flange?
Old 07-21-2003 | 03:27 AM
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Did a search on aircraft international and only came up with Yellow Aircraft international. Do you know the web page?
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http://www.aircraftinternational.com
Old 07-21-2003 | 10:22 AM
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Actually, BlkBird, I DL'd the picture of the BME Xtreme off the BME site, kept resizing the file until the distance between the centers of the exhaust ports matched the center-center distance shown in the "in cowl tuned muffler" diagram in the "Gallery" section of the site, then cut out the "flanges" from the printout and made my flanges that size.

The dimensions are:

c-c of bolt holes. . .1 7/16"

Flange hole (square with radiused corners) 13/16" x 15/16".

That will be just a tad oversized on the hole, and line up the shape with the bolt holes. I use 1/8" thick washers with a 3/4" inside hole for my flanges, then remove the unnecessary material with a grinder. The headers are then brazed.

Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by Kris^
Hope this helps.
Kris, thanks it sure helped me (and I need help since I'm a cannister neophyte).
Old 07-21-2003 | 08:27 PM
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Me too Keith.......I was certain you told me THE SAME AS THE 50 for the 55X
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Thanks Kris^
Old 07-22-2003 | 03:00 AM
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Due to higher cost for precision machined parts and the lower value of the US dollar we are going to sell the engine for 579.00. It is without a doubt the highest power to weight ratio engine in the 50cc class. Those who are on the list will receive the quoted price of 499.00.


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Old 07-22-2003 | 03:10 AM
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Old 08-04-2003 | 08:17 PM
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The wait is coming to an end ! I saw on the BME website today that they have the cylinders and pistons.

I've caught the big gasser bug and am looking for a 100 ish CC motor. BME looks great but I'm also thinking DA. I'm wondering why BME is marketing three engines so close in displacement and so close in cost. I would think , sell the new 110 Extreme and keep things simple. Most power , lightest weight , same price as the 105 and only slightly more than the 95 . Can BME comment on this ?
Old 08-04-2003 | 09:08 PM
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The 105 will no longer be in production since it was an interim motor using the 102 jugs and 110 crank. Only the 95 and 110 will be available of the three "100cc" enignes listed.
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Kris^,

Any work on the ignition modules?

Brian
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I was too impatient to wait for a reply and gave BME a call. Keith was a pleasure to talk to and answered all of my questions in a most informative and frank manner. I've put myself on the waiting list but won't be able to get one for this season's flying. Oh well , too many toys already !
Old 08-05-2003 | 12:20 AM
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I talked with Keith today. He said they were putting them together as we spoke. I hate to bug him I know he is very busy with this kind of backlog but being I am bout 190ish on the list I should get mine in the first to the middle of september. Can't wait.

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Old 08-05-2003 | 12:33 AM
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How do I find out where I am on the list? I had my LHS order one Prop & Wheels Hobby. He didn't tell me what number I am or when I can expect my engine.
Old 08-05-2003 | 03:00 AM
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Not sure because I called keith directly in about december or january and he said the back or list was quikly aproching 200. So i got put on the list at that time.
Old 08-05-2003 | 07:18 PM
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Guess I don't feel too bad about dragging my feet with the edge I'm building for the BME 55. Makes waiting easier. Glad our flying season is year around so I can fly it when it's done and I don't have to wait until spring if I finish it this winter.


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