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Old 05-04-2009, 12:57 AM
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Deffinately not a piece of the ring on that piston. My guess is a piece of the rod bearing cage, more than a guess actually, I'v seen it before.
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It is hard to tell where the piece may have come from that caused this because there is so many pits in the ports. If you look at the piston close you can see a number of smaller scratches. When I first recieved the motor I could see a few bits of metal inside the cylinder so I pulled them out with a q-tip and then flushed out the cylinders. The other side looks good with only some carbon build-up due to having to run the engine a bit rich to keep the right side from leaning out. The ring is intact so it was most likely a burr. The other side is clean of all debris so I would doubt it was a bearing failure. After I talk to Troy Built I will completely disassemble the engine and look for other causes. Jim
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Dirtydingus,
If you saw material in the cylinder, did you just clean what you could see or did you open her up to see what was inside?
I'm a fan of Chinese budget stuff but I think I would have gone farther and opened the case to have a look.
Do you think this would have prevented your problem?
Just curious.
Old 05-04-2009, 10:09 AM
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I thoroughly rinsed it out and oiled it good, but because they are "warrentied" engines, taking it apart could have given them an excuse not to honor it. Jim

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I always look inside. I found a rubber band in one a few years back.
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Keep us posted on the warranty stuff DirtyD. If they warranty it then it's all good.
Old 05-19-2009, 06:21 AM
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hay guys just got my dle form troy built at the joe nall looks good so far i got to order a prop and spinner from jody and then of to the races will post picture of the motor as i take it apart and clean it to make sure no loose metal. what i did notice is that it is not like the dl 50 or 100 there is no gas smell at all and you look at the piston it is clean as a whistle so there has been no firing of this motor..
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I have had three 50's and one 100 and none of them were ever run. Maybe your 50 was one of so many they pull out of the line for testing? Or it could be the place you bought it from pre-runs them to wet the carb so the customer has an easier time getting it going.


Anyways it looks like I am going to join the 111 fold. I just ordered one last night. Curious to see if there is any performance improvement to speak of over my 100.
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My DLE 55 arrived last week. Now to get it mounted on a model and flying!


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I am passing this on from an email i recieved so don't shoot the Messanger. I'm just passing on... i haven't figured out how to attach pictures yet as i have 4 that were sent....
Well guys.... you won’t believe what happened to me this past Sunday.  I was practicing some IMAC maneuvers with my 3D Hobby Shop Extra 260 –( 87inch WS ) with a DL-50 for power.  As I entered a 45-degree downward angle to level out for the next maneuver the nose of my airplane exploded !!

I thought that the engine had ripped off the firewall. But others who saw it said that my engine exploded into many pieces.  Anyway I had my hands full with an airplane with no front end.  Of course it pitched up and started its "death roll".  I was able to push the front down with extreme down elevator and level the wings somewhat and manage to make a belly landing with the landing gear hanging from the frontend. Only damage to the airplane was the shattered frontend (pics attached).  This all happened at about 100 AGL.

 Approached the crash site and began searching for engine parts. We found most of them within a 150-foot circle. We brought the engine parts back to the pits and began a triage' & examination of the engine parts. (See Pics) A closer look revealed that the con rod was broken in half.  An even closer look seemed to indicate that the con rod was previously fractured. This fracture was the result of a crash from the previous owner on his 1<sup>st</sup> flight.  After purchasing the engine on the internet, I added about 15 – 20 or so flights. 

The engine was purchased on consignment and I knew about the previous crash. But I never tore down the engine for inspection. (Should have been checked for internal damage). The engine was at half throttle when it gave way, the kinetic energy was so strong the prop and spinner ripped & tore the engine case apart, breaking engine into 2 large pieces. The other part of the explosive report was the cowl and nose shredding to a million pieces.

 To tell the truth, I am a bit embarrassed. There are lessons to learn from this incident that others and especially me, did not heed.

Any RC engine... whether small or large should be thouroughly inspected and disassembled after a crash before flying again. The scary part is that this could have easily of happened in the pits on initial engine run up.  Everyone s hould stand behind the airplane when running up the engine !!

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ORIGINAL: terribleTom





Everyones houldstand behind the airplane when running up the engine !!

This was the most important part. Thanks for posting these wise words. I see way too much of this in the pitts at my field. People even walk around my plane after I start it.....so I have to be the bad guy and tell them to scoot.
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Joe, can you advise me how to post the pictures?
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I need help posting pictures too. Tried several times and not able to figure it out.
Thanks
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T Tom,

Look at the upper right part of any message and you will see the 'reply' button. You have to reply to post pictures. Okay, once you click on 'reply' and want to include pics, look at the lower left and you will see the 'click here to upload images and files'. That is how you include pics. Good luck because we want to see the pics of what happened.
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Guys, here are the picks... they're pretty Scary... this could happen to any engineso be aware...
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KABLOOEY!

Man that must have been quite a show.

Never seen that before.
That's one for the books.

Fortunately no one got hurt.
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

hey guys new guy here I have a question for anybody that cares to reply I have a great plains patty extra 300 that i put a fuji 50 in and I most def do not like the power or lack of should I say my ques is what kind of power could i expect out of a moki 2.10 with a pump compared to my gas ? any ideas thanks Ryan
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Put a DLE 55 or 50 on it. The Fuji is not in the same class as the previously mentioned engines. It's great for weed trimming or cutting logs.

Forget the glow engine. Your model gets slimed with glow fuel oil while that engine sips your wallet's moneydry. Not to mentionless running reliability for the average user. Think about it, how many of the big names do you see using glow engines?

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oh man oh man i just crank up the dl 100 for the first time and all i can say is oh man oh man this little enginge has a ton of power all ready nowhere close to being broke in i will have some running pictures and some reports has the day goes by. thanks jody great guys at valley view!!!!!
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ORIGINAL: lill will

thanks jody great guys at valley view!!!!!
I second that. Thanks to him I have two great running planes.All I do is fly now. 1 flip starts and crazy power....(that's my face after running up my DL/DLE).
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yea you are right i am letting it cool down now for the cycle but man this motor is nice it was running then all of a sudden it change tone, andstarted running even betterman this thing is smooth JODY IS THE MAN!!!!!
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Who is Jody and if he is vendor, what does his company do to make sure you had a Good DLE..... Iam interested in the 55 but have reservations because of Support, parts and repair.... I've been burned once by inferior Chinese products...
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Jody works for Valleyview RC. He is on the forums pretty much every day helping everyone out whether they bought an engine from them or not. Valleyview strikes me as a straight up company that bends over backwards to help out the customer. I believe they also inspect every engine prior to shipment. Jody can confirm if this is correct. The company from my understanding is owned by Tom and his wife. Again correct me if I am incorrect. Here is the link to the homepage and the engine page with their support statement...

http://www.valleyviewrc.com/
http://www.valleyviewrc.com/Gas%20Engines.htm
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He inspects the engines for quality. Thathas gotten me two awesome engines. Then if you have any issues after you get it he'll you resolve them, even if they are not the engine's fault. In my case I had some weird draft/pressure problems in my cowling and he totally fixed it by suggesting a velocity stack. Also helps with tuning question or any other question you have about the engine....what battery to use...etc. They stock all the parts and he does warrantee or non-warrantee repair. Ihave gotten top-notch service from him. Don' think I'm just being nice either. You should see what Iwrite about people that don't give me good service and product.....just kidding. He deserves the praise. It was earned the old fashioned way. Hard work.

Not that theengines reallyneed a ton ofsupport or attention IMO. Ihave a 50 that has run for a year with about 5 gallons through it. Haven't even replaced a plug. It just runs. I just needed help with the cowl drafting/pressure problem during myaerobatics. It never quit on me, just would run rich or lean at two differentattitudes (knife edge and inverted). All gas engines can have this happen if the right conditions happen inside the cowling.

If you get one get an NGK CM-6 plug for it right away. They are much more reliable than the stock plugs.
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Guys, thanks for the info... and NGK plugs are what i run in my Brisons and such as well... have the hankering to put a DL in the H9 27% 260 i just got... pondered on a DA but i have a Brison 3.2 on shelf... so My options are spend or not to spend... and how much....

thanks for the quick kick back...

Tommy


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