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Old 08-08-2006, 04:28 PM
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I heard ya on the battery draining.

Tower looks good at 12 bucks a gallon or 5 gallon bucket for 49. My LHS wants 18 bucks a gallon.
Old 08-08-2006, 04:32 PM
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yeah but then take into account shipping. heres prices i just got from the distributors mdw aviation

Price is as follows

1-gallon - $14.00 plus $10.00 UPS

1-case of 4/1 gallons - $53.00 plus $18.00 UPS

5-gallon pail - $59.00 plus $20.00 UPS



1-55 gallon drum $428.00 plus current freight cost

its worth it, but it aint cheap. i need to find some people in my area to split a 55 gal drum!
Old 08-09-2006, 02:22 AM
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I've got a Don Harris pump and it works good but I'm running it off the receiver packs too. It's probably not going to be a problem but I'd rather split it off to it's own pack and add a speed control to it to get rid of the pinch valve. Any advice on how to set this up?

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Old 08-09-2006, 03:19 AM
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Hmmm...anyone in the Uk interested in sharing 55 gallons of super dri???
Old 08-09-2006, 10:18 AM
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The QQ yak turbine video is inspiring. Never seen so much smoke ever.
Old 08-09-2006, 10:27 AM
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i wonder how much for one of those engines?
Old 08-09-2006, 11:27 AM
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guys i just checked tower hobbies price for shipping the 49.99$ 5 gall jug of superdri, and its only 8$ ! I thought they would charge more!

so unless i can find some Al mag oil here for that cheap (which isn't going to happen) i'm going to order up. thats 11.6$ a gallon = five 24 oz tanks per gallon = 2.32$ for each tank of smoke. not too bad.
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Guys,

I am having a problem with my smoke system maybe someone can help. I have used the follow system http://www.greathobbies.com/technica...ce8ece3fc03e13 . there is plenty of smoke however when i cut the throttle back it kills the engine. I have moved the injection nipple more towards the end of the muffler now ther is not enough smoke. How far from the head should i plae the injection nipple......

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Old 08-09-2006, 06:10 PM
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if you can cut the smoke at idle. thats why electronic ones are best, but expensive.
Old 08-10-2006, 03:35 AM
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Nipple needs to be between 1.5 and 3in from the engine port.
Old 08-10-2006, 04:50 AM
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Anyone driving their Smoke Pump off of a LiPo battery? Results?
Old 08-10-2006, 03:55 PM
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If I don't switch mine to run off the receiver packs, I'm going to buy a LI-ION for it. I think I'll head to Fromeco's site now. I'm guessing I won't have to run a regulator with the TME. Only 8 volts fully charged.
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yeah same with skywriter, it'll run whatever up to 12 V i need to get a lighter batt. for it as well but you don't need high mah level, so gotta find something cheap and light
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HI all, I just received a 3w smoke pump with no instructions ?
Since I have never used a smoke pump, I have a few questions, but first I'm putting in a 35% extra with a 3w 100 plus a JR 10x
1, is this pump proportional
2, what is the best channel to operate the pump, on/off or on a dial
3 should I just use a mix to operate the pump.
Thanks Rcpete
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yes use a mix. since you've got the 10x you can use whatever channel and just about any switch you want, right? use the one you know you don't need. use a switch not a dial.... mix the channel of your choice to the throttle and put in more smoke oil the higher the throttle. But not that much. start with small numbers so you don't go through a tank in 2 min cause your rate is too high. play with it on the ground before you fly it. Thats all i can say, i've never used the 3W pump but hope it works out for ya.

i couldn't find the manual online, i looked a little bit
Old 08-11-2006, 05:05 AM
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The usual method is to have a throttle mix on a seperate channel to the smoke pump. I have the MZ pump which works the same way as the 3W iirc and this is the way i have it set up. You will find you need to have the mix setup so the pump does nothing at idle, then pumps up to max smoke flow from about 1/3 throttle up to full. You will also find you need a flow rate alot lower than you might expect, you actually get more smoke from less fluid up to a certain max efficiency point. For eg on my DA100 with the MZ pump i only need 20pct of max flow to get the most smoke volume, and my 24oz smoke tank lasts about 5-6mins.
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HI all, well since the 3w smoke pump came with no setup instructions, I"ve wasted 3 hours trying to set it up. I cann't make my JR10x turn it off and on, I"ve tried programmable mixes to no avale.
I"d like to use the retract switch.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:53 AM
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hmm, has the 3w pump got a 3-pos switch on it. I know my MZ one has and one position is off, the other two are on forward and reverse (as in JR pulses vs Futaba pulses). If it has a switch fiddle with it see if it works, or it may have an adjustable pot like the MK pumps.
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I use a 3W pump,,,i have mine set up on 9Cap on a slide on the side,,you have to set the end point on the bottom to 0,,or it will get power,,on mine i have it set to about 30% tops,,makes tons of smoke,,,hook your pump to a Aux channel and play with the end points you should get it to work.

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HI, I'm trying to get this setup for a fun fly tomorrow, here are some pics.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:21 PM
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hi all, well she works now, you have to use150% and 150% end points.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:39 PM
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Where can I find more about 3W smoke pumps on the web?

thanks, Bill
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Allso im not sure,,but on the 9Cap you can control the flow of the pump with the radio useing one of the sliders,,not sure about JR ,,if you pay attention there is a little LED on the bottom of pump,,,,you can adjust the endpoints to make this light bright or dim,,dim being turned down,,bright, pump is wide open,,so you can control the pump speed.the 3W pumps wide open,,put out way to much smoke,,im running mine on a 106 set at 30%,,puts out tons of smoke.

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Old 08-12-2006, 07:54 AM
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That's a sweet looking $100.00 3W smoke pump / system. Do you know how much it weighs and how much pressure it can develop? I was thinking of injecting the smoke fluid into a misting nozzle, after preheating it, to help make greater smoke in my Satio .125. I don't think the cooler running glow 4 stroke will produce adequate amounts of smoke without some tricks. Thanks.
Old 08-12-2006, 09:02 AM
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Im looking for the 3W [sm=confused.gif]web site, anyone know the full name of the manufacturer ( 3W ) or an online dealer?

thanks, Bill


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