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Old 02-21-2007, 05:52 AM
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hi guys a few pics of my new cap blowing smoke.baby oil & kero
as i have said before fly around for 6 min then use ya smoke system .the pipes are real hot then
cheers glen
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:21 AM
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looks good, how do you like that cap?
Old 02-21-2007, 02:21 PM
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I might have to try the baby oil and kero,,,,what kind of mixture,,what % of each are you useing,,,,


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Old 02-22-2007, 04:07 AM
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sweet guys ,,i use 80% baby oil & 20%kero
yes i love this cap580 it flyes 3d better then my red bull yak
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:18 AM
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Where can you get baby oil in any type of quanties,,must be expensive to buy as well,,



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Old 02-22-2007, 09:24 AM
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i like the cap on the sim, but didnt knwo how true to life that was, they made it fly great on there, maybe to sell more? its a cool looking plane. may have to consider that one down the road, thanks
Old 02-22-2007, 08:07 PM
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Check this guy out,,, he really knows how to work that smoke.[8D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2XVL9DpmAE

Gives a guy something to strive for.
Old 02-23-2007, 01:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: NdFrSpeed

Where can you get baby oil in any type of quanties,,must be expensive to buy as well,,



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its not that dear 500ml $1 in aus.
white oil is good to i use that alot,
im a smoke nuta i love it.


& yes the cap flys better then the sim count on it
cg
Old 03-22-2007, 11:11 PM
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I'm new to the thread...thanks in advance for the reply:

Question: given a particular engine, say DA-50, what is the physical diff between a standard Pitts Slimline muffler, and a Slimline "smoke" muffler?

Does the smoke muffler have an internal coil???
Old 03-23-2007, 06:37 AM
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Does the smoke muffler have an internal coil???
yes
Old 04-14-2007, 10:00 AM
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Has anyone tried vegtable oil as an eco friendly alternative? I am using kero at the moment with good results but was wondering about a bio type alternative!
Old 05-27-2007, 05:35 PM
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Ok I spoke with Sullivan and they suggested to go to a lower voltage pack so I tried a 7.4 instead of the 11.1 and its MUCH better..even at 7.4 it still really pumps a lot at 100%..I lowered my End Point to 30% and it seems just about perfect...at least on the ground..The smoke comes on just a few clicks under 1/2 throttle..hopefully I will be close enough so I will only have to adjust the end point a little.

Bob this is how I have my TX setup..its a 9C
Pump is plugged into channel 5
endpoint is 30%
PMix #6...throttle master..aux 5 slave
Aux 5- null
pos 1 +100
pos 2 -89
pos 3 -90
pos 4- 90
pos 5 -93
I sat mine up yesterday after I found the smoke was killing the engine at low RPM. I used the Futaba FAQ for the 9C. My reciever is a PCM 9 channel. The pump is a TME SmartSmoker Simple Smoke Pump. The pump is on channel 8. I had lots of trouble setting it up as the FAQ said but it did work as a guideline.

Setup is in PMX-6. Channel 8 is Aux2. Aux 2 had to be reversed or it was max smoke at idle and Minimum at full throtttle. The subtrim of +120 needed to be used to get the pump to slow to a crawl with the motor at idle. By crawl I mean it pumps about two clicks at a time seperated by several seconds before the next cycle. So -100 means crawl. This is still enough to put out some thick smoke at idle but it doesn't seem to want to kill the motor. Switch A was used to cut off the smoke completely. Formerly I had it on one of the side VR's. It worked OK there, but it was too easy to kill the motor plus I was wasteing oil.

Page 1;

Mix ON
Mas 3:Thro
Slv 8:Aux2
Link Off
SW A
Position Null

Page 2;

On
Thro-Aux2
Pos 1 -100
Pos 2 -100
Pos 3 -90
Pos 4 -60
Pos 5 -40

With the -90, -60, -40 the smoke thickens to max without much residue on the plane. I'm concidering reducing the numbers further to make the smoke last longer, IE -100, -100, -90, -75, -60 or lower. I'm running two 10 ounce smoke tanks. Also, I use a seperate 6v battery and external switch for the smoke.

This is just my setup, it may not work for others.

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http://www.tmenet.com/brews.htm

Anyone over here using this Chevron/Texaco "Canopus 13" oil ?
Old 06-30-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default RE: The BEST Smoke System

Hi MATE,
Sorry to but in but I am just about to set up a smoke system on my new OS 160 FX. Can you tell me where the best position on the exhaust would be to inject the fluid to make smoke. Some people have told me if you don't inject in the right part of the muffler it can be sucked back into the motor causing it to stall.

Regards

Andrew.
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Hi MATE,
Sorry to but in but I am just about to set up a smoke system on my new OS 160 FX. Can you tell me where the best position on the exhaust would be to inject the fluid to make smoke. Some people have told me if you don't inject in the right part of the muffler it can be sucked back into the motor causing it to stall.

Regards

Andrew.
hi andrew it needs to be away from the port.make sure you dont have the flow of the pump right up at first it is a trial & error thing.
there is a few guys here that can help out including myself
http://www.3d-downunder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69
cheers glen
Old 06-30-2007, 10:25 AM
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I installed TME Simple Smoke Pump (function ON/OFF only, no feature of programmable speed control) with 16 Oz smoke tank on ULTIMATE Worldmodels with DL-50. Use SUPER-DRI smoke oil and do fine adjustment for amount of smoke oil feeding to the muffer. It works well....
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: Prapan

I installed TME Simple Smoke Pump (function ON/OFF only, no feature of programmable speed control) with 16 Oz smoke tank on ULTIMATE Worldmodels with DL-50. Use SUPER-DRI smoke oil and do fine adjustment for amount of smoke oil feeding to the muffer. It works well....

That's the same setup I have on my ZDZ 120 and it works good too.
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I put my Ultimate back together and hooked the smoke pump up to the ignition battery- Fromeco 2000 LI-ON. Range checks seemed OK. Went to the field last night and forgot the smoke oil.[:@]
Old 07-26-2007, 04:38 PM
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I just tried the RCShowcase super smoke pump and it works great. I have turned the end travel in the radio down to 50% and it is still a little much. This plugs in to the reciever and then gets power off the ignition battery. This works great for me as I have a 3800mha on the ignition. The extra mha was cheap and I figured if I needed it somewhere else I could Buy a cheaper pack for the ignition later on.
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Default RE: The BEST Smoke System

Do you guys know how much mAh from the smoke pump do you use on a single flight?
Old 08-15-2007, 03:38 PM
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Randy I read one of your post asking about Almag Oil , the company I work for sells Almag Oil in 55 gallon drums we have had several drums in our warehouse for years and would be interested in selling at big discounts . The company I work for is in Gadsden Alabama about 3 hours from Nashville If your interested email me at sewellspoint@yahoo.

jim sewell
Old 08-17-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default RE: The BEST Smoke System

A 300mAh nimh will last for several flights. Three or four every time. The pump by itself in a TME system is not that big a power hog.

The difference between a Slimline smoke muffler and a standard Slimline muffler is the addition of a pre-heat coil (added expense) inside the smoke muffler. Pre-heat is not needed for a gas engine, only for glow. So a stock gasser muffler with a simple fuel nipple near the exhaust manifold is all you need for a gasser.
Old 09-08-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default RE: The BEST Smoke System

Hi guys,

Just wanted to ask is there any plumbing diagram to install Sullivan Skywriter Smoke Pump on my Saito .91 4st?.
I don't know where to drill out.

I saw at page #4 this thread but that not using pump so u guys any idea by using this pump?

Thank you
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default RE: The BEST Smoke System

Hi all i have a sullivan skywrite
i going to put in my yak-54
its has saito 150 FS do i need to get a smoke muffler for it or will the STD one do?
Old 09-11-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default RE: The BEST Smoke System

The best smoke system is one that will work when needed and will not LEAK and create a mess inside your model, like TME Simple Smoke did on my Yak54.



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