Shortman

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There usually slow with the emails because there not an internet based site in that they don't allow you to buy online. Give them a call, there open from like 9 am - 5pm central time... Phone is normally busy and takes about 5-10 tries to get ahold of them.

BrianMorris

It does take a lot a calls to get through.Always busy.However,when you do get through,you are #1 on their priority list.Very nice.
Ewok,all of the prices you see on their web page,including links,is what your costs will add up to.

UNLDAVE

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Hi All,

I currently have and fly BOTH a DA and a 106...Iwas disappointed to build my entire C/A 2.6 bolt the 106 in and put the cowl on .......OOPs too long of an engine. I had an Extra I built to break in the 106. It weighed about 26 lbs ,the 106 pulled it like it weighed 20 lbs.... I am going to to take the 106 to a machinist friend of mine and see if we can fly cut and turn about 3/8 in. off of the 106 to fit it in another 2.6 House scheme I have on the way. As Far as the DA goes , it is in the C/A 2.6 and flies and runs AND fits flawless. It is very smooth and reliable as well as powerful . I've never layed a srewdriver on the carb(Thanks Kevin L.) My buddy and I have thing going on Betting on how many First flips to start in a Row we can accumulate with our DA's I also have a DA150 that starts and runs flawlessly.. I have yet to need customer service for either my DA's or my3W.

To sum it up, If you want to fly smooth get the DA 100 it'll fly GREAT . If you want unreal psycho brute quick power ,get the 106 .In my estimation you'll have to use a 29-10 Mejzlik on the 106 to calm it down enough to fly as smooth as a DA.....
Another curiosity was satisfied at the Buttonwillow contest this past weelend . I saw a 3W-85 in a FC 2.6 It flew EXTREMELY well and was a good combination.. Iwould consider tis route if I didn't already have the 100/and 106...

as far as noseweight goes , with a da or a 106 you'll come out nose heavy but not by much...

Dave

Flyfalcons

Has anyone tried a ZDZ 80 on a 2.6? The DA-100 gives it such good power that perhaps the 80 in combination with an overall lighter plane might make a good combo? Sounds like they come in a little nose heavy anyway, and it might be a cheaper way to get one in the air without sacraficing much performance.

Shortman

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Thats a good question FlyFalcon... would it fit well without making to many new modifications though?

Flyfalcons

No idea, might have to cut the bottom of the cowl to fit the engine. Length isn't a problem with some standoffs. Either way if someone gives me a 2.6 I'll find out how it does

UNLDAVE

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I 'll bet that would work as they put ZDZ160's in the 3M extra with no problem ..... There's also a lot less glued in parts in the 2.6 to vibrate loose from the singles vibration..... I can't remember the length of the ZDZ 80, might have to cut a hole in the firewall for the carb.....


Dave

Flyfalcons

Barely vibrates more than a twin. The one on JohnVH's Sukhoi is quite smooth and has good power.

Maximum 3D

-=DA=- All the way!!![>:] www.wraerobatics.com www.hobbiespr.com DA DA DA!

2.6mrod

i have had experience with both in 2.6m composite arf the da would be the preference because of bad service from our 3w dealer, the da has ample power in this plane to do all 3d stuff,3w does have a bit more grunt but it is unusable.
the main thing to look at is after sales service i had had good 3w motors, but if you get a bad one you are on your own as you cannot contact 3w direct.
this pic is of a 3w 106 crankcase the motor was sent back with problems dead sticking after a few minutes flying,it came back with a $600.00 bill it was 6 months old 30 flights,when put back into a plane it ran good for 3 flights then back to usual problem,so we pulled the engine down and was shocked with what was found it was bodged up with heaps of locktite and sent back these motors are to expensive to have shonks as dealers.also our da dealer will bend over backwards for you hence i own a da100 and a da150
regards rod

Diablo-RCU

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2.6mrod:
The loctite bearing compound is normal procedure to make sure the bearings don't move in the case. However, the one case half has a bearing surface that wasn't machined properly. That can't be fixed with loctite. They should have replaced the case. I would send the photo to 3W modellmotoren in Germany with a letter explaining the service you didn't get from your distributor.

UNLDAVE

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Actually ALL 3w engines are assembled withLoctite Bearing locker on the bearings and Loctite flange sealant on the cases... A very kind 3w dealer told me the exact Loctite product #s to use .. These engines are very simple to work on...

Dave

RTK

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If you are willing to try something lighter than the listed engines, there is another option.

MikeEast

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I have a BME 110 on my 26# Biplane but I can tell you it absolutely ROCKS on a 2.6M composite plane!! I have seen it with my own eyes. Check out the [link=http://BP Associates Website]http://bpassociates.homestead.com/30Extra.html [/link] (www.bp-rc.com) website for some video and pictures of the mounting technique and gear placement. There is a rolling window at the bottom of the 35% Extra page that shows the gear mounting configuration.

Its a much lighter and WAY more powerful engine than the DA100 or 3W106 pound for pound. Thats a fact. I have flown the DA100 and I own a BME 110. 3W106QS, I have a friend that has one and the power difference of the BME 110 to the 106QS is noticeable. The 110 is way ahead of the game plus you get an added power factor due to the fact that its about 2 pounds lighter than the other 2. Mine has about 150 flights on it and it runs like a scalded dog.

To get the 110 on a composite plane you just mount the battery packs to the engine side of the firewall and move everything right up under the wingtube/bar. Check out the site.

Dont get me wrong the 3W and DA are great engines but IMO you really get more bang for your buck with the BME 110, its an incredibly powerful engine and on about 4.5# total weight with the stock mufflers. Im not a brand man, I buy whatever I like. Right now I own 3W and BME and I like both but the 110 is in a class by itself.

By the way it starts and runs like a sewing machine.

RTK

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I have too agree BigNed

2.6mrod

they are easy to work on but did you look at the picture closely it is not machined properly, i dont think it is good practice to fill the gap up with locktite to stop oil running out around the front bearing and to stop loosing crankcase pressure, perhaps on a whippersnipper engine but not on a $2000.00 engine that is under warrenty.
rod

rcdart

Pity 3w do not answer letters that are sent to them complaining about the product or the dealers

Diablo-RCU

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You are correct Rod:
That case should have never left the factory.
Obviously, someone had to see that it wasn't properly machined when they installed the bearings. Perhaps it was Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder doing engine assembly.