Go Back  RCU Forums > Glow Engines, Gas Engines, Fuel & Mfg Support Forums > Glow Engines
Reload this Page >

UMS Evolution Radial Care and Operation

Community
Search
Notices
Glow Engines Discuss RC glow engines

UMS Evolution Radial Care and Operation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-08-2014, 04:50 AM
  #1126  
Maxam
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (62)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,164
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Steve, Oh no not after each flight!! That would be awful. That would take away from the joy of the one flip start every time for the next flight. Yes the method you mentioned is correct. One time I flew 8 times my 9-90 in a perfect dead calm evening. That was fun. -Tom
Old 05-08-2014, 05:18 AM
  #1127  
slskn
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 383
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

oh ok that`s what I thought, thanks again and happy flying-Steve
Old 05-09-2014, 11:49 AM
  #1128  
Cristian2fast4you
Member
 
Cristian2fast4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bucharest, RO
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hi all,

Finally, past Saturday my Evo 7-77 has made his first flight! Great engine. I love it!


And the sound....
http://youtu.be/n4iXbgbv6Lw
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140509_203330.jpg
Views:	298
Size:	414.3 KB
ID:	1993822   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140509_203701.jpg
Views:	276
Size:	207.9 KB
ID:	1993823   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140509_203846.jpg
Views:	254
Size:	70.1 KB
ID:	1993824   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140509_204049.jpg
Views:	275
Size:	74.3 KB
ID:	1993825   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140509_204255.jpg
Views:	258
Size:	73.5 KB
ID:	1993827   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140509_204341.jpg
Views:	277
Size:	187.3 KB
ID:	1993828  
Old 05-13-2014, 12:54 PM
  #1129  
slskn
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 383
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

well got 2 more flights on the Stearman Sunday and the 7-77 is running perfect and got 2 flights on the Corsair with the 9-99 and same thing, running perfect, all is well and "life is good" Happy flying to all-Steve.
Old 05-13-2014, 01:05 PM
  #1130  
Maxam
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (62)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,164
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Such good news! Great to hear it Steve. These engines are a lot of fun. They saved me from loosing interest in the hobby. Keep 'em coming Pete! -Tom
Old 05-14-2014, 06:05 AM
  #1131  
Pull Up Now!
My Feedback: (3)
 
Pull Up Now!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Northfield, MN
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by slskn
thanks again for the great Idea Rick, brilliant discovery owed to you, yes, the silver color you see is the copper coating just sanded off, I did use the brazing rod type silver solder, with the white flux, worked out great the only thing I did not do was to add a pressure fitting, not sure if I need to, but will try without it first, I did put one on my Corsair only because I have a 2 tank system and wanted to make sure the fuel would flow from one tank to the other, but on the Stearman I only have one tank, 32oz. only because I had it, my clamps are kind of crude but seem to tighten but not sure I can tighten any more with out making the slot wider, will see after the engine runs a time or two, thanks again...............Steve.
For anyone who is interested in the exhaust rain project, here is a link that explains the difference between silver soldering and silver brazing. The two terms are often used incorrectly interchangeably. http://www.homemodelenginemachinist....-solder-22938/
Old 05-17-2014, 05:32 AM
  #1132  
slskn
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 383
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

here are 2 short touch and go video`s of the Stearman that my other camera man got, sorry so short.
1. front seat "rookie pilot" http://youtu.be/gGYaECoumzY
2. rear seat experienced pilot ( actually the builder)Ha, Ha, Major Courtney Payne, for real, http://youtu.be/FH4mGyR9-o4
Old 05-18-2014, 03:34 AM
  #1133  
Linkan2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Öland/ Kalmar/ sweden
Posts: 227
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hello all
today so va the time to try stearman with 7-35 after repair.
But I been disappointed with the updated carburetor & 18x8 prop-
no nitro and no pressure to tank.
Motor gave 6200 rpm on the ground, but sounded tired in the air
What to do?
Lars
Old 05-18-2014, 03:48 AM
  #1134  
Maxam
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (62)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,164
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Lars, Make sure the idle screw is not too far screwed in. If it is it will not allow enough fuel in at higher throttle positions. -Tom
Old 05-19-2014, 11:30 AM
  #1135  
Linkan2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Öland/ Kalmar/ sweden
Posts: 227
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Yes Tom, I'll do the careful control, it's probably too much into screwed.
But does anyone have experience with other prop than 18x8 to 7-35 -
for better power?
I'll try with 10% nitro & overpressure til the tank.
Now with the new carburetor has a wider diameter = lower air speed
Lars
Old 05-19-2014, 12:29 PM
  #1136  
Maxam
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (62)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,164
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Lars, Always try different brands of props. I like the 17x10 XOAR -Tom
Old 05-23-2014, 08:48 AM
  #1137  
EQ1
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Verden, GERMANY
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lars, what you describe as "sounding tired" is a lack of thrust at higher speeds. Your 8" pitch at 6200 rpm yields a pitch speed of around 47mph, which is really low. Just try a higher prop pitch, maybe with lower diameter. Your revs are also too high for my liking concerning these engines. These engines produce more torque than rpm. Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Linkan2
Hello all
today so va the time to try stearman with 7-35 after repair.
But I been disappointed with the updated carburetor & 18x8 prop-
no nitro and no pressure to tank.
Motor gave 6200 rpm on the ground, but sounded tired in the air
What to do?
Lars

Last edited by EQ1; 05-23-2014 at 08:50 AM.
Old 05-23-2014, 09:56 AM
  #1138  
Linkan2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Öland/ Kalmar/ sweden
Posts: 227
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

before had up over 7000rpm, going out and try tomorrow.
Have adjusted the idle needle, I mounted tube on the hose for blow, barely no air flow.
I adjusted from 1/8 ​​turn = better airflow
so I write in Saturday
Lars
Old 05-25-2014, 06:59 AM
  #1139  
Linkan2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Öland/ Kalmar/ sweden
Posts: 227
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hello again
I was and test flew today.
It works better now, but not like before.
Can add, it is uneven compression is, the piston rings are leaking.
I'm waiting for a 17x10 to try
Can say that but stearman weighs 7.3 kg
Lars
Old 05-25-2014, 04:39 PM
  #1140  
TimD.
My Feedback: (207)
 
TimD.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Here is a pic of my corsair , finally finished the change out from the G-62. weighted 31lbs with the g-62 now it is down to 28lbs with the 777. She is a kit built TF that I did about 8yrs ago. I have the engine turning 4800-4900rpm on the ground with the prop adjusted to about 20x15 3 blade.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	oooooooo 002.JPG
Views:	316
Size:	473.8 KB
ID:	1998259   Click image for larger version

Name:	oooooooo 005.JPG
Views:	285
Size:	472.9 KB
ID:	1998260   Click image for larger version

Name:	oooooooo 006.JPG
Views:	266
Size:	481.5 KB
ID:	1998261   Click image for larger version

Name:	oooooooo 009.JPG
Views:	291
Size:	483.6 KB
ID:	1998262   Click image for larger version

Name:	oooooooo 004.JPG
Views:	282
Size:	476.1 KB
ID:	1998263  

Last edited by TimD.; 05-25-2014 at 04:42 PM.
Old 05-26-2014, 04:02 AM
  #1141  
Maxam
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (62)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,164
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Tim, Your airframe will certainly enjoy the decreased vibration. 4 pounds less! wow!
Old 05-26-2014, 01:34 PM
  #1142  
pappy 883
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Man that TF F4U looks great with a real radial........time to think about a swap !!!
Old 06-01-2014, 03:24 PM
  #1143  
slskn
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 383
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

hello guys,
not really wanting to open up this topic again but, wanting to mix my own fuel, got access to all the methanol I want and wanting to use the KLOTS oil with the 80% synthetic and 20% castor blend and I have a possible chance of getting some nitro, I need to get the formula of the percentage right, now at 128 oz. in a gallon how much of this is minus the oil and nitro? in other words do I subtract for example at 5% nitro would be 7 oz. so would I subtract 7 oz. from the 128 oz. and so on with the oil? so it all equals 128oz.? to make it one gal.? just asking for some in put so I have the right mixture. I know I could cut the Wildcat fuel that I am currently using on my other models but trying to since I have the access to all the methanol I want make some home brew thanks fella`s just asking-Steve
Old 06-01-2014, 05:45 PM
  #1144  
Dad_Roman
 
Dad_Roman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Teague, TX
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

To keep it simple......Yes

Percentage relates to any given amount soooo........

Of the 100% of the given amount (be it one quart, one gallon or one hundred gallons) the breakdown is as such...

5% of it is nitro...

10% of it is oil...

...therefore 85% of the given amount is base fuel IE:methanol.


So your example of 128 ozs.

7 ozs nitro
13 ozs oil
108 ozs methanol

...and bingo, 128ozs of 5% with a 10% oil content.....hmmmm....sounds like radial fuel

Last edited by Dad_Roman; 06-01-2014 at 05:49 PM.
Old 06-01-2014, 08:44 PM
  #1145  
cymaz
 
cymaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 718
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Lightbulb

I use a regular fuel with known oil and nitro contents. 16% nitro and 18% oil, cut 50/50 with methanol. This gives me 8% nitro and 9% oil, simples...oh and my 7-77 loves it

It is simple to mix and very little maths too!
Xoar 20x10

Last edited by cymaz; 06-01-2014 at 08:49 PM.
Old 06-02-2014, 05:17 AM
  #1146  
Dad_Roman
 
Dad_Roman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Teague, TX
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cymaz
I use a regular fuel with known oil and nitro contents. 16% nitro and 18% oil, cut 50/50 with methanol. This gives me 8% nitro and 9% oil, simples...oh and my 7-77 loves it

It is simple to mix and very little maths too!
Xoar 20x10
Very true!!! You also get the advantages of any of those nice additives they may have put in.
Old 06-03-2014, 08:38 AM
  #1147  
slskn
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 383
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

thanks for the info guys, I am having no luck yet with the availability of the nitro, still looking, is it possible to run these engines on just methanol and oil blend reliably? if so I will forgo the nitro, maybe give it a try? so if you just go with the oil content, it still would be 10% only of the 120 oz? another words 10 oz. of oil plus 118 oz of methanol? right?
Old 06-03-2014, 09:24 AM
  #1148  
Orion09
My Feedback: (1)
 
Orion09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I was running 0 nitro and the engine ran just fine. But I found its simpler just to cut a jug of 15% with methanol. Heres a screen shot of the math. You can plug in your own numbers. Belated thanks to Ross. It works great.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_2012-09-13-15-27-51.jpg
Views:	285
Size:	319.0 KB
ID:	2000832  
Old 06-04-2014, 02:59 AM
  #1149  
Dad_Roman
 
Dad_Roman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Teague, TX
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by slskn
thanks for the info guys, I am having no luck yet with the availability of the nitro, still looking, is it possible to run these engines on just methanol and oil blend reliably? if so I will forgo the nitro, maybe give it a try? so if you just go with the oil content, it still would be 10% only of the 120 oz? another words 10 oz. of oil plus 118 oz of methanol? right?
Drag racers do Nitro....

0% nitro wont hurt but I cant comment on it....never done that.

Your math is way off. 10% of 120 is 12.......12 off of 120 is 108......so 10 % oil will be 12 ozs of oil in 108 ozs of methanol.

The numbers you put up would be 8.4%
Old 06-04-2014, 04:58 AM
  #1150  
slskn
My Feedback: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montrose, MI
Posts: 383
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Ok thanks for the info just wanted to make sure, if I go with no nitro I wanted the mixture to be right, I miss spoke the figure should have been 10% of 128 oz. Not 120, sorry, oh BTW found some nitro on amazon.com, sold by Torco.

Last edited by slskn; 06-04-2014 at 01:37 PM.


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.