Notices
Glow Engines Discuss RC glow engines

Welcome to Club SAITO !

Old 09-03-2019, 06:05 PM
  #42051  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
It's got to be the Saito sticker making it fast too!
Well you know stickers add 20 HP. A Saito sticker though has been dyno tested to 35 HP add on.

Crunch, that plane may not fly well with the covering coming off no matter how big the engine is.
Old 09-03-2019, 07:27 PM
  #42052  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
Well it runs?
the air bleed screws are almost screwed all the way in to get it to kinda transition. I think this thing is new!!
It might take a flight or two to get it idle

that Saito 100 twin is so powerful it's thrust pulled the covering off the plane

yes you can put a 302 in a Pinto, we had a few of them around here in the early 80s. their really not that hard to blow-off if they have stock engines in them (as most guys had in theirs around here), they would get my Nova off the line but I would catch them in 2nd or 3rd, there was one I raced and I caught him just as I hit 2nd. we even had one up here with a Chevy 350 in it, but that was after I had got out of street racing. we also had a Vega with a stock 350 in it, it's the same story. the guy said it would do wheelies, but he gave the race up when I passed him late in 2nd gear. you got to have a cam to get your engine to rev out with power at the end of the 1/4.
my friend had a 69 442 with 4:11s and a stock 455, it too would pull really hard off the line but it did not have the top end to pull hard coming to the end of the 1/4

oh, I did see one Vega just over the NY line, it had a blower sticking out of the hood

Jim
Old 09-03-2019, 07:41 PM
  #42053  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Gary, would you have another Saito 100 Carb body ??

Jim
Old 09-04-2019, 01:58 AM
  #42054  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
Bringing the thread back to something close to subject........



And about time. This stuff is great for taping saito fuel tanks to the test bench.
Old 09-04-2019, 04:23 AM
  #42055  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Not to be to critical
but thatís the 182 twin and it does run good it definitely is not broke in yet. If it was there wouldnít be any covering left.

Once again tell me how great ARFís are.
Old 09-04-2019, 05:07 AM
  #42056  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,239
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

ARF?! ARF?! Never heard of them. I thought ARF was something Little Orphan Annie's dog says not an airplane!
Old 09-04-2019, 05:54 AM
  #42057  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

ARF are something my dog chews on to get the racoon fur out of her teeth. Now that I think of it, the only planes the broke apart in the air on me were ARF, none of my built planes ever had an issue in the air. In fact the Saito 72 I am now having issues with was on an ARF when it went in.
Old 09-04-2019, 10:09 AM
  #42058  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

The yak I just got rid of was doing the same thing
I have a GeeBee thatís good so far but dang just get a engine in this plane that I want and now the covering comes off.
How important is covering on the fuse. Maybe I will just fly it lake that.
Old 09-04-2019, 10:53 AM
  #42059  
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 7,266
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rudolph Hart
Never a truer word said. Jester the reason i suggested tuning with no fuel pressure was because i thought you may have a high fuel tank.

Have you really wound the lsn right out flush with the throttle arm and leaned the hsn to peak rpm at full throttle? once you have done that back the throttle off till it will just keep running (around 3 to 4000rpm) then start screwing low speed needle in quite quickly for a few turns as nothing happens till you get to a certain spot, then the revs rise quickly and the engine smooths out and even then you still keep going as you pull more throttle off, the engine smooths out more and the rpm near idle rises rapidly when you get close. What peak rpm have you had, and what prop, did you say you fitted a mas classic?
Yes, MAS 3 blade. It peaks at 9k now, which is another oddity in the saga of this engine. I got a peak once of 9400, 8700 on another day, and 8400 once. But this last time was 9k on the nose, and it was definitely peaked.
I did use the process of walking down to the idle speed. 4k is about where I could hear it missing due to being so rich, so I started screwing in the LSN. I followed that process down to around 3k as I lowered the throttle and re-adjusted. I repeaked the HSN, and went back to the idle. If I lean the LSN enough to run right, it is in quite a bit from being flush and it isn't possible to richen the HSN enough.
Old 09-04-2019, 01:51 PM
  #42060  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Jester
metal or plastic throttle arm?
metal the low speed is flush but plastic it is below flush. Just wondering.
Old 09-04-2019, 02:34 PM
  #42061  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,648
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jester_s1
Yes, MAS 3 blade. It peaks at 9k now, which is another oddity in the saga of this engine. I got a peak once of 9400, 8700 on another day, and 8400 once. But this last time was 9k on the nose, and it was definitely peaked.
I did use the process of walking down to the idle speed. 4k is about where I could hear it missing due to being so rich, so I started screwing in the LSN. I followed that process down to around 3k as I lowered the throttle and re-adjusted. I repeaked the HSN, and went back to the idle. If I lean the LSN enough to run right, it is in quite a bit from being flush and it isn't possible to richen the HSN enough.
Don't worry too much about the low 8400 peak; you probably just over leaned the hsn too long and overheated a little. Not being able to over richen the engine with the hsn concerns me though. Check for a pin hole in the fuel line, tiny crack in the tank, clogged clunk or something. If the lsn is adjusted anywhere near close enough for idle you should be able to swamp the engine with the hsn.

Saitos come from the factory with the lsn set flush with the outside of a metal throttle arm but flush with the inside of a plastic throttle arm. Those settings are way too rich for a well broke in engine. Just something to keep in mind.
Old 09-04-2019, 03:04 PM
  #42062  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default



Saito 82-B LS needle typical of most. Remember, when at or near the optimum LS setting 1/8th turns produces big changes.
Old 09-04-2019, 03:20 PM
  #42063  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy


Saito 82-B LS needle typical of most. Remember, when at or near the optimum LS setting 1/8th turns produces big changes.
nice engine Dave.
Hows that 180 treating you.
Canít wait to fly this 182t. Seemed to have enough power but now I have to recover the darn thing.
Old 09-04-2019, 03:25 PM
  #42064  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Thanks Mike, the 180 is treating me well, it sure has some serious compression. I'll have to run it some and get some bragging numbers.

I need some big draggy plane for the 180.
Old 09-04-2019, 03:35 PM
  #42065  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Thanks Mike, the 180 is treating me well, it sure has some serious compression. I'll have to run it some and get some bragging numbers.

I need some big draggy plane for the 180.
yeah I have I few of them and a couple on CH ignition and donít have one in a plane
sure is hard to get enough planes for the engineís I have.
Hell I could spend a day just running just to hear the noise. Oh well that happens
i hope you get your box and find all that you need for that 50.
Old 09-04-2019, 03:39 PM
  #42066  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

I think I could love this plane with the 180 up front, I mentioned I paid that 50 stuff forward helping a guy in Tx. with an 82 needing some parts.

Sig 110
Old 09-04-2019, 05:07 PM
  #42067  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
I think I could love this plane with the 180 up front, I mentioned I paid that 50 stuff forward helping a guy in Tx. with an 82 needing some parts.

Sig 110
yes that is a great plane I thought about getting the little one like that but the one I have works pretty good.
Old 09-04-2019, 05:13 PM
  #42068  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Ok
Ran pinky. Boy ever time I run a 56 makes me want to build more 40 size planes. My tack is broken so no numbers sorry. It turns a 11-7 wide wood. Like all the otherís so I am confident in its performance
also ran a 65 itís a another one that is misunderstood
you know bigger badder better. But the 65ís that I have run have all been vary good.


Old 09-04-2019, 05:54 PM
  #42069  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Both schweet engines, often the smallest of a series is the nicest.
Old 09-04-2019, 06:10 PM
  #42070  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Both schweet engines, often the smallest of a series is the nicest.
just hope the paint holds up.
Canít wait to see pinkíy in a pink plane.
Old 09-04-2019, 06:22 PM
  #42071  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

All that pink, you'll have to let the girls cover it.
Old 09-04-2019, 06:50 PM
  #42072  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
All that pink, you'll have to let the girls cover it.
well this one is going to mike in OKC he has a plane for it. Canít wait to see it
Old 09-04-2019, 07:32 PM
  #42073  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,239
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Me too! Now I'm going to go through my prop collection and look for that same 11-7 Top Flite prop. Did I mention I love wood props best?
Old 09-04-2019, 07:46 PM
  #42074  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: dysart, IA
Posts: 1,730
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Me too! Now I'm going to go through my prop collection and look for that same 11-7 Top Flite prop. Did I mention I love wood props best?
now way didnít I think of that
Old 09-04-2019, 09:47 PM
  #42075  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VT
Posts: 5,434
Likes: 0
Received 42 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

I have to say I too want to see this pink plane with it's pink engine LOL,, but just make sure> if you put a name on it, make it in purple!

BTW, what are you going to name this pink plane with it's pink engine, I hope you don't name it Pinky,, how about naming it "Fluffy" ??



Jim

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.