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Old 10-23-2006, 04:28 PM
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Doug, I ran mine today with a 16x8 MasterAirscrew Classic and a 16x8 Mejzlick. The MA Classic turned 8,900 and the Mejzlick 9.340. on WildCat 15%/18% lube. I recently put a new cam in it and upgraded it to the new Cast muffler and its accompanying pipe.
Old 10-23-2006, 05:13 PM
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Should oil leak out of the front bearing on a Saito? I put some in the vent line and it came out the front.
Old 10-23-2006, 05:57 PM
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I recently obtained a 2nd hand but low time FA-65. The previous owner ran it about 6 times but did not flush out the crankcase. Consquently congealed castor oil & some light surface rust.

Last night I pulled it apart but forget to check whether the dimple on the conrod faces the front or the rear of the engine. Which way is correct?

Also, despite reasonable amount of heat from my heatgun & healthy blows from my rubbet mallet, I am having CONSIDERABLE trouble removing the crankshaft, I guess due to the congealed castor oil. Maybe I just need to bang the mallet harder.

Should I try to dissolve the castor oil by placing the crankcase in kerosene thereby breaking it's grip? That in combination with more heat & bigger blows of the mallet.

Thanks in advance
Old 10-23-2006, 06:13 PM
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Yes that's quite normal, when I inject Corrosion X in a Saito whether front vent or rear it comes out of the front bearing but they never leak when running.
Old 10-23-2006, 07:24 PM
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Your glo plug is bad or you have no fuel to the engine


ORIGINAL: rajul

Stallwart, do you have a fuel filter installed?

I should have added that I checked out the fuel system and it appears fine. I assumed the glow plug (OS "F") to still be good with such low time on it, but that would be an easy fix.

I have a fuel filter inline for fueling planes, but not onboard. I've considered it, but you might have inspired me to go ahead and install filters in all planes.

Thanks for the input.
Old 10-23-2006, 07:32 PM
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Its a good idea to install a filter in the carb line. Crap gets into the tank via the muffler line.
Old 10-23-2006, 07:40 PM
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Fuel filters are on my shopping list now.
Old 10-23-2006, 07:55 PM
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Bone...excuse me if this is a dumb question, but do you have the prop driver and collet already off?
Old 10-23-2006, 08:00 PM
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Proptop - no, not a dumb question. The prop driver & collect are stuck too [&o].
Old 10-23-2006, 08:07 PM
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Delete, sorry.
Old 10-23-2006, 08:07 PM
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"Well there's your problem"

Ya gotta get those off first...

I use a small puller and a little heat, and the driver will pop right off. The collet will slide off after that.
Old 10-23-2006, 08:14 PM
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I threw the prop on my Saito 45 this weekend. Purring along on its third flight of the day. Not a pop or a hiccup, the prop and spinner just departed the airplane and spun to the ground. I landed the plane straight ahead. Picked up the prop, and it doesn't have a scratch even though it fell on hard dry lake bed. Guess I better double nut it. Anyone have a prop nut for an old Saito 45?
Old 10-23-2006, 08:16 PM
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Doug, for the Saito 150 and Showtime, try the APC 17x6. As for the TT spinner, the 2 1/4" wide blade spinner p/n is TT-2282-B-W. The double jam nut adapter kit is TT-0823-A. The backplate may need some modification to fit the Saito 150. Check with Rick or Bob at TruTurn http://www.tru-turn.com/
Old 10-23-2006, 08:19 PM
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hehehehe...... yes, I know they must come off first....but both are stuck fast.

Anyway, will try again with more heat & harder blows from the mallet.

But with respect to my other question - which way does the dimple on the conrod face ? to the front or rear of the engine ?
Old 10-23-2006, 08:20 PM
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The 45 uses the same nut as the 56
Old 10-23-2006, 08:23 PM
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Doug, what is your built up weight on the Showtime with a Saito 150? Just curious
Old 10-23-2006, 08:26 PM
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Kmot, you're right that you should double jam nut your Saito. Safety first. If you're using the spinner nut, apply a little threadlock to the tip of the drive shaft
Old 10-23-2006, 08:31 PM
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It's just a plain nut. What it came with many moons ago. Never threw a prop off this one before. Okay w8ye, so ya got a spare 56 prop nut?
Old 10-23-2006, 08:45 PM
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Tom, if you'd like the nut and a tapered jam nut I could fix you up
Old 10-23-2006, 08:48 PM
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Hmmm...I don't recall right off hand which way the dot goes...maybe someone else will help out there? I would look at the big end and put the side with the heavier chamfer towards the crank.

I got a small 3 jaw puller for something like 10-12 bucks and use that to pull a good tension on the driver while heating it evenly with a propane torch...
Sometimes ya gotta get that sucker pretty dang hot before it'll pop free.
Old 10-23-2006, 09:22 PM
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Thanks Proptop - you have convinced me that I definately need a 3 jaw puller. Nearly lunch time here so the hunt is now on.

Will see what others have to say about the dimple on the rod.
Old 10-24-2006, 07:16 AM
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rajul
Haven't started building plane yet. With the 2# plus Saito 150 I'm guessing a little over 9#s, which should be fine for the Showtime. Really impressed with the plane so far. This engine is awesome in how much power it has. It literally was almost tipping my Black & Decker workmate over.

Doug
Old 10-24-2006, 07:33 AM
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Doug, have fun!
Old 10-24-2006, 10:37 AM
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hi . ho do you think is better fa-220gk or the 200ti. ? i have the hangar9 p51 .
Old 10-24-2006, 02:58 PM
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The 220 has a lot more power than the 200Ti

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