Stickbuilder

I still wonder where he got his templates to cut the parts.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

mrdhud

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houseofmoy??

WacoNut

He was asked that question but he never answered it

Stickbuilder

I have a feeling that I know where he got them. That's a road that we went down over 2 years ago. The templates that are owned and are property of the Waco Brotherhood, have all rights reserved. We (the Brotherhood) were nice enough to allow the AMA to include them with the plans, and do not charge for their use for a personal single build. This does not include the commercial use of these templates. They remain the property of the Brotherhood nonetheless. Hopefully anyone knowing enough to kit a model commercially, should be smart enough to know what that means.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

skylarkmk1

Bill,
The plans he shows on the web sight are the earlier (pre 1990) 3 page plans. The AMA supplies the 1990 2 page plans (and templates if you ask for them). It is a real dissapointment that Rich has not come through with the kits as hope, especially for those who wish to build a Waco but lack the equipment and/or time to cut thier own kit.

P.S. - The last dated update on his site is Dec 10th and is about the Waco.

skylarkmk1

Charlie,

It sounds like you recieved a Long Kit w/out plans or CD manual.

Richwood R/C Kits "Long Kit -

This kit contains all of the wing ribs, fuse formers, and pre-bent wire parts such as the cabane and landing gear wire, and a set of printed plans. Construction manual provided on CD-Rom. Note Although we call this a Long kit, you must supply the balsa sticks, and sheeting to complete this project. We supply you with all templated parts."

Charlie - "to all I orderd a comp kit [short] from rckitmasters on 10/30/09 pd in full and as of to day have only recieved wing ribs , formers , wires , no other parts sent many e-mails trying to get the balance with no responce , so I would NOT order anything from him in the future in fact ever again just my 2 cts worth "

Wing Ribs - Check
Formers - Check
Wires - Check
CD Manual - ?
Printed Plans - ?
Balsa Sticks - Not Supplied as Stated
Sheeting - Not supplied as Stated

I would send him one more note asking him for the plans and CD that you say are lacking. Plans and manuals are available elsewhere if you do not succeed with Richwood and the build can proceed. Yes it is frustrating to not get a response from a supplier (and a poor business practice) but alternatives can be found.

And no, I have no relations or connections with Richwood other than the previously mentioned corrections to his site.

Stickbuilder

If he is actually selling these so-called short kits, I wonder why he wouldn't respond to e-mails and other correspondance related to one of his kits. Customer service is all that seperates the good ones from the bad ones.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Stickbuilder

Okay, Here is the roster to date.

WACO BROTHERHOOD MEMBERSHIP:

#1 stickbuilder
#2 Hughes500
#3 Jim Henley
#4 mmattockx
#5 CTflyboy
#6 michaelj2k
#7 Ronj10
#8 gwulle
#9 jim schroer
#10 Skinny Bob
#11 Bart5495
#12 Pimmnz
#13 HarryJ
No. 14 Old Git
#15 ChrisMH
#16 Nerevar
#17 Ricatic
#18 Clay H.
#19 Tripp2Loo
#20 KHodges
#21 Bill Hogue (WACO One)
#22 Mangolo (Waldo)
#23 av8ter
#24 yel914 (Rick)
#25 damifino
#26 skylarkmk1
#27 Jacque
#28 Edwin
#29 AROPLANE
#30 WacoNut (Anthony)
#31 BQuartucy (Bob Q)
#32 AERORON
#33 funkymusic
#34 Live Wire (Larry)
#35 obo (Bob)
#36 Jackk36 (Jack)
#37 fatherrooster (Jim)
#38 Ilikebipes
#39 Kestrel0222
#40 CROWMAN17 (Marc)
#41 redcesar
#42 S. Christensen (Scott)
#43 Bill Deidrich
#44 Mike Barbee
#45 mrdhud (Dan Hudson)
#46 SoCalSal
#47 Todd (NightStalker)
#48 argon (Bob Gonzalez)
#49 mango 12 (Scott)
#50 skyjet 1
#51 ZIG
#52 Didg
#53 MarvinE255 (DOC)
#54 Joe Norris (Full Scale WACO Pilot)
#55 vasek
#56 SuperCub Man (Jim)
#57 Black Drape (Ron)
#58 aminiet (Angel Minet)
#59 Snowball
#60 doc zinger
#61 jagnweiner (Scott)
#62 Meesh (Bob)
#63 BigBoy99 (Bernie)
#64 stifts (Steve)
#65 RCWalker (Wallace)
#66 Mobyal
#67 lazyace
#68 bladerunner1955 (Don)
#69 trlambsr
#70 Big Bird (Ken)
#71 Tony V (Tony)
#72 red 1
#73 412t1 (Sean)
#74 Mr Lucky (Ben Warner)
#75 RICKSTUBBZ (Rick Stubblefield)
#76 ffdg (Fred)
#77 tomcraig
#78 Michou41a Michel
#79 Watzscale (Dick Watz)
#80 Devens
#81 msilvestro (Mark)
#82 Cheechukranch (Lewis)
#83 kruzin55 (Chris)
#84 lynchr (Ron)
#85 airplanegeek
#86 Mainer Jim
#87 Garthwood (Charles)
#88 RCBOATMANIAC (Dave)
#89 Thomas B
#90 George Werber
#91 frequent flyer (Don)
#92 adamiani Alex
#93 Kvlasblom
#94 geertdewit (Geert)
#95 Wobble Wing (Bud Halverson)
#96 Joe Gulik
#97 T.L.A.R.eng
#98 kurrikan
#99 Nathan King
#100 nine o nine (Mitch Epstein)
#101 dsquire (Don)
#102 Mr. WACO (Charlie Nelson)
#103 Ken Acosta
#104 denoferth (Dennis)
#105 germrb (Bob Germaine)
#106 J.D. Ramsay
#107 ccrebidoux (Chris)
#108 LarryN (Larry)
#109 X3heimmr (Marty Heim)
#110 Lou Melancon
#111 BEARMX (Barry Waters)
#112 Sir Crashalot (Bob J)
#113 RPSBLS (Bob)
#114 Squeakalong (No name given)
#115 Uminchu (Dave)
#116 Avaiojet (Charles)
#117 Mud Duck (Shaun)
#118 XTRA230 (Rob)
#119 3drc tim
#120 Cubman
#121 Ekim (Mike)
#122 tom czenthe (Mr. Tom)
#123 curt switzer (Mr. Curt)
#124 bbogart (Bruce)
#125 skypup50
#126 RCplanman
#127 froghair1
#128 lrayj (Lonnie)
#129 codiddley
#130 king arthur 1953 (Ron)
#131 sdstick06 (Shawn)
#132 hopkimf (Michael Hopkins)
#133 Cricklewood (Chris Kerrigan)
#134 montiu
#135 carbunkle
#136 Wolfinwisc



#200 GEORGE QUINN (posthumous Brother)

WACO Sisterhood Roster:

S-1 Janelle (Lady Stickbuilder)
S-2 Sissy Nightstalker
S-3 Barb Barbee
S-4 LadyMango (Lynda)
S-5 BUMBLE GEE BEE (Gabi)
S-6 Sue Watz

S-8 Lady RCBOATMANIAC (Christine)

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1

Stickbuilder

Made it to the top of the page (again).

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Live Wire

Bill
It would be great to see 135 Waco's in one spot
NEVER HAPPEN [:@]

Jim Henley

Hey Larry, how have you been? Glad to see you posting. I have almost finished the current project, then I can take the WACO off the shelf that I purchased last year and start on it. Will be (hopefully) posting pictures soon. Take care!

Stickbuilder

Let's get going. We want to see some Waco's being built.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Live Wire

Jim
I check in here every day but just can't get back in the mood on the WACO. Very little to be done for what I am going to do with it. I tried to sell it last year but no one wanted it so I am just plugging away on it to get it done. The engine part is what is holding me back. I am not sure and don't want to take chances with to small of engine, 120YS.It probably is just me.
OP's get in the way of my own planes, You no how that is .
Larry K


I have rebuilt 2 60 size and 2 30% totals this winter and am ready to fly if we don't get kicked out of our flying sight by a guy that built a house at the north end of our run way and is crying NOISE and wants us out[:@]

khodges

My Feedback: (1)

Eleven down, 124 to go. Best I could do, but only one YMF in the bunch. maybe it will encourage the building to begin.

skylarkmk1

But Ken, You didn't show the YMF. Do you need me to identify the Wacos at the Fly Out breakfast for you at Mark's place? You know I can.

I can only come up with 44 different Wacos[&o]

Tony V.

Live Wire,

I have a YS-120 on mine flys great . You have more then enough power...

Tony

Live Wire

Tony
I think it just me I have seen and here of so many big planes ReKitted, and I started building thing baby in the 80's . Part of the family
Larry K

Stickbuilder

A 120 will fly the wings off of it. Remember, it was designed for a .60-.90.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

RCplanman

My Feedback: (16)

Khodges, Questioncould I D the WACO S in your # 2 picture please. thanks,rcplanman

khodges

My Feedback: (1)

If you're talking about the two cabin Waco's, the yellow one (to the right on the pic) is an SRE, I think the other one is a QCF, but Skylark could tell you better. John, as far as pointing out the only YMF there, it's the one in the middle of this line:

nine o nine

My Feedback: (1)

Almost.......I'm ready to maiden my TopGun entry 30% Waco YMF Classic. Hoping for good weather on Thursday. No one except my helper should be at the field....that's how I like it for first flights.
Here's a pre-emptive thanks to all the folks in the brotherhood for help and advice along the way. Skylark....I'm most appreciative that you're such a fountain of Waco knowledge. Here's a new question for you....what's the diameter of the prop hub retainer and the size of the castellated nuts? Thanks to the Chief for putting this thread together and staying on top of it.
I'll post pix after the flights. Kinda funny.....I've been building and flying these things for many years...maidened the B-17 and flew it for years with no knee shaking or white knuckles, but this one..................
I wonder if getting to be a graybeard has anything to do with it. Mitch WB100

khodges

My Feedback: (1)

That's MASTER Chief to all us Airedales, Jarheads, Groundpounders and otherwise non-Squid types Chief is how you address a Chief Master Sgt in the AF, same grade, more brains.

That ought to start something.

WacoNut

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That's MASTER Chief to all us Airedales, Jarheads, Groundpounders and otherwise non-Squid types Chief is how you address a Chief Master Sgt in the AF, same grade, more brains.

That ought to start something.
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OOOhhhh I think the gloves will come off on that one!!!! He does seem to getting just a tad bit grumpy these days
Anthony

nine o nine

My Feedback: (1)

Well I was an airdale and Chief just sorta fell out. Mitch WB100

skylarkmk1

But Ken, you didn't post it before.

The identification of the Wacos in post 8239, starting on the far left then top to bottom the Wacos are;
Blue w/white trim YKS-7 NC 17474
Red & Cream UPF-7 NC 39748 (Waco Joe)
White w/dark Blue trim UPF-7 NC 29303
Blue Fuse/Silver Wings ASO NC 622Y (#26 on the National Air Tour)
Maroon over Black UEC NC 13050 (no cowl)
White w/Med Blue trim YMF-5 Classic NC 14081
Green w/Cream trim Cabin ZQC-6 NC 16203
Yellow w/Green trim SRE NC 58785
Grey w/Med Blue trim YKS-6 NC 16246

The identification of the Wacos in post 8232 are;

P1 – left to right

White w/dark Blue trim UPF-7 NC 29303
Cream w/brown UPF-7 NC 32158
Red UPF-7 NC39743
Green w/Yellow UPF-7 NC 39727
Red w/Cream UPF-7 NC 39748 (Waco Joe)
The White and Blue striped plane is a Boeing A75N (PT-17) NC 48784

P2

Green w/Cream trim Cabin ZQC-6 NC 16203
Yellow w/Green trim SRE NC 58785

P3

Blue Fuse/Silver Wings ASO NC 622Y (#26 on the National Air Tour)

P4 (left to right in the back)

Cream w/Maroon Stripe QCF-2 NC 9220J
Cream w/Red Stripe Cabin VKS-7F NC 31663
Grey w/Med Blue trim YKS-6 NC 16246

You are up to 14 different Wacos Ken