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Old 07-26-2004 | 07:13 PM
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I'm not much up to par on IMAC stuff so could some one explane the Zoneless box. I know it sounds "self explanitory" but theres got to be more to it than "perform your sequience where ever you want to".

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Old 07-27-2004 | 07:37 PM
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It is designed to reduce the overall size of the "aerobatic box" by eliminating the three zones that we used to have to place the figures in. Your are now able to "kind of" fly your own rhythm and place the figures closer together. It elininates those long straight lines to get from one zone to another. This really helps, my opinion, in the lower classes to " stay away from others when using 2 flight lines. You just fly shorter lines and stay more toward your side of the box.

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Old 07-27-2004 | 08:04 PM
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I agree the zonless box is nice but does not seem to reduce the over foot print. center box should still be center to look good but ends can be much closer. I find myself still flying out to make it look balanced.
Also the presentation score has no judging criteria only that you score it 0 to 10. how are you supposed to fly in front of judge A as opposed to judge B. does A like you to fly in out or what?
This is just my 2 cents and wondering what others are thinking in other regions?
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Old 07-27-2004 | 08:54 PM
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I have yet to see the zoneless box result in "smaller foot prints". I have no problem with change and if the change needed is to get the planes closer in for sound reasons, then simply make the boundaries smaller and enforce them. I wish it would have worked but it hasn't from my experience.

Also as Kevin stated above, as well as that of many others, the score given is subjective and there really is no guidelines, for instance, as to where to apply a 4 as apposed to a 7. It depends on how the flight made the judge "feel". I went into the zoneless box trial season with an open mind to see how we can make it work. Unfortunately I witnessed first hand how the subjective part of the zoneless box can (and possibly did) make a difference in the outcome of a contest. I judged a round and then later scribed for a round of the same class that I had just judged and was truely amazed at the difference in presentation scores.

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Old 07-28-2004 | 04:40 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys. I'm thinking of trying a little competition next year so I'm trying to find out all I can about it.

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