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Old 04-25-2019 | 05:15 AM
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I am having starting problems with one of my P300's .During the starting sequence the acceleration phase fails and I get a low temp display on the GSU (last off condition). The battery is fully charged and I am looking for some advice. Might this be a EGT probe problem or are there adjustments that need to be made for the acceleration portion of the start up.

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Hold Limits button and Press the Plus + button. Let go of both. What is Url1? Note and press +> only and read Url2 and Idle voltage. Note them and post ��

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Hold Limits button and Press the Plus + button. Let go of both. What is Url1? Note and press +> only and read Url2 and Idle voltage. Note them and post ��

Dave,

Here are the limit results for my #2 turbine that is having the acceleration low temp problem U-accelr 1 is .250 and U-accelr 2 is 1.024, U- idle is .79 My #1 turbine is working well with normal acceleration. The limit results are U-accelr 1 is .250 and the U-accelr 2 is .952, U-idle is .73
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Ok, and you had some successful runs before the non start, did you run to full power each run to calibrate the pump?

How many hours do the turbines have? If low hours increase the Url1 figure from .250 to .300 hold down change value and press plus. The press the set button. Try a start with a fully charged ECU battery and if it starts ensure you let it idle for around a minute and then run at full power for 30 secs. All with obvious caution, that’s a lot of power you are playing with
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Ok, and you had some successful runs before the non start, did you run to full power each run to calibrate the pump?

How many hours do the turbines have? If low hours increase the Url1 figure from .250 to .300 hold down change value and press plus. The press the set button. Try a start with a fully charged ECU battery and if it starts ensure you let it idle for around a minute and then run at full power for 30 secs. All with obvious caution, that’s a lot of power you are playing with
The turbine with the acceleration issue was sent to Germany over the winter for a new glow plug. I did two test runs after installation in the sailplane and discovered the issue. I was able to start it after a number of attempts but the Low Temp and Acceleration was giving me problems during each attempt. It would come up to temp during the start cycle and during the acceleration phase the temp would drop down to well under 100C. My last takeoff was successful when I got both turbines going but the peak RPM was not achieved, it was around 98,000 instead of the 105,000. During the flight I tried a re-start a couple of times and it showed the Low Temp fault. I have approximately 12 to 14 hours on both turbines. Both turbines were rebuilt by Jet Cat in the fall of 2017.
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OK, the pumps are not tight then with those hours. If it has a new burner than shouldn’t be coated with any build up. Try the higher pump start figure for now.

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OK, the pumps are not tight then with those hours. If it has a new burner than shouldn’t be coated with any build up. Try the higher pump start figure for now.

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I made the adjustment and am having better results. The first start will typically give me a low temp fault but the second start attempt is usually successful. The acceleration phase is still vary slow. The peak RPM is also been met so I have good thrust. Are there further adjustments that we can make to optimize the starting process.
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Without being there it’s really difficult, if you are not getting flaming, go another step on Url1
It maybe related to the burner, JC are working on an updated version for the 300+ sizes.

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