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Dansy 12-05-2017 08:56 AM

Questions for the Jeti user, is this telemetry device use jetibox/exbus?

Can a start be monitor via the TX LUA or Jetibox?

I have been playing with it and I can see telemetry, but no start monitoring? What I’m missing?

Also I didn’t try a start yet, but that light is flashing green and blue? Normal?

I taught it would be simple.....??

ZivBit 12-05-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Yashung (Post 12388453)
KT Telemetry used a default configuration from Futaba .
(1)please to make clean Slot8 to Slot21 .
(2)To select the JetCatV10 on Slot8
Please to refer the attached file.

Thanks for the update!
I wish it was mentioned in the manual, would have save me lots of time to sort it out...
It is connected now using ports 8-21, but I am only getting some of the info.
I get the ECU voltage, RX voltage, pump voltage, but not getting the RPM readings (I ran the engine)

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ziv

Springbok Flyer 12-05-2017 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ZivBit (Post 12388537)
Thanks for the update!
I wish it was mentioned in the manual, would have save me lots of time to sort it out...
It is connected now using ports 8-21, but I am only getting some of the info.
I get the ECU voltage, RX voltage, pump voltage, but not getting the RPM readings (I ran the engine)

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ziv

My 18MZ will not update to the version showing the JetCat option. Did you select the JC option? If so, are you getting any display that can be used for 'Fuel Remaining?

Jan

ZivBit 12-05-2017 08:59 PM

Yes I did choose the JC sensor option, and it works, partially.
There is a sensor from the pump with fuel remaining. You must config the tank capacity in the KT dashboard to get a read.

However, I am still not getting any RPM reading.

Ziv

synergy41 01-16-2018 11:33 PM

Hello everyone,
Does anyone have the pump factor for a K160.
thank you

aaronforth 01-17-2018 07:47 AM

Do a Flight like you normally would..
after you land measure the fuel you have left
Look at the Telemtry fuel remaining

let's say your pump factor was 350 and your fuel left was 58% but your Telemtry said 48% left
use this formula

350 x (100-58) / (100-48) = 282

this example your New pump factor is 282.

each pump will have a different pump factor. Even 2 same class engines.

hope this helps

synergy41 01-17-2018 09:24 AM

thank you very much,
I'm going to bench test to find the right value.

Springbok Flyer 01-17-2018 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by synergy41 (Post 12398902)
thank you very much,
I'm going to bench test to find the right value.

Like he said - you also have to start by getting the USABLE fuel volume right, try to bench test with the same fuel tank setup as you will have in your jet. To get the usable fuel volume, fill the tanks, then pump out as much fuel as you can and measure the volume. Then I suggest you start with a pump factor of 290. My 140's are around 250 and my 180's are around 340. Normally I find that I can get within 50ml of exactly the usable fuel volume remaining after 3 flights.

Cheers,

JanR

VK96 02-24-2018 02:38 PM

Does anyone know if there's a way to reset "fuel used" to 100% after disconnecting your taxi tank?

aaronforth 02-24-2018 02:42 PM

There's a way yes...

what I did is installed a normally closed push button switch in my air brake compartment. Install the switch on the power lead of the Telemtry module. When the button is pressed it interrupts the power and resets the fuel capacity ��

VK96 02-24-2018 03:06 PM

Thanks...any way to do it from the TX? For example, on the JetCentral's you can run the throttle up to full then idle quickly...

aaronforth 02-24-2018 03:20 PM

Yes you can use a receiver controlled switch. If you're using Spektrum it takes a little more wiring. The easiest way is with the push button

Dansy 02-24-2018 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by aaronforth (Post 12408569)
Yes you can use a receiver controlled switch. If you're using Spektrum it takes a little more wiring. The easiest way is with the push button

Interesting, could you please show your solution? any logical switch??

aaronforth 02-24-2018 06:46 PM

I use Spektrum with Powerbox Mercury.
The Spektrum Xicoy Telemetry needs power at startup in order for the Spektrum Xbus to find it and initialize it. The problem is with a RX controlled switch it needs power from the RX to complete the circuit and power the xicoy telemetry, this takes too long and the Xbus will ignore the xicoy on startup.

The easiest way is to run a separate power lead to the JR plug on the Xicoy with a small switch. After you power up your model and everything is active you can switch off this power lead with the switch. You RX controlled switch will now cycle the power off to reset fuel.

This is one way..there can be others...

aaronforth 02-24-2018 06:50 PM

If you use the new Spektrum powersafe RX you have to do something similar.

I tap into the power wire on the Xbus wire with a diode, run that to the power wire of the JR wire with another diode.
the diodes are to ensure you don't get power backfeed.

This Is for the New KT G2

Dansy 02-25-2018 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by aaronforth (Post 12408641)
If you use the new Spektrum powersafe RX you have to do something similar.

I tap into the power wire on the Xbus wire with a diode, run that to the power wire of the JR wire with another diode.
the diodes are to ensure you don't get power backfeed.

This Is for the New KT G2

Thanks, I’m on Jeti.....

VK96 02-25-2018 06:35 AM

Also on Jeti, but thanks for the ideas. Was hoping the telemetry module had the function available, but sounds like that's not the case.

Dansy 02-25-2018 06:48 AM

I also thought it was possible on Jeti, I will try a couple idea I got.

aaronforth 02-25-2018 08:12 AM

I would think the same goes for Jeti. Power must be interrupted to reset the fuel.

dccatl 02-25-2018 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by aaronforth (Post 12408750)
I would think the same goes for Jeti. Power must be interrupted to reset the fuel.

Yes, I'm using this setup on Jeti, works fine. Route the power (positive wire) for the FC-1 through one of these: Turnigy Receiver Controlled On/Off Switch and use a spring loaded switch on the transmitter to momentarily interrupt power to the FC1. By the way, this also works fine using Futaba.

aaronforth 02-25-2018 10:36 AM

Exactly!
Too bad Spektrum wasn't that easy lol

Once the system is powered up, your way will work!
Trick is getting the system to initialize first !

Dansy 02-25-2018 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by dccatl (Post 12408806)
Yes, I'm using this setup on Jeti, works fine. Route the power (positive wire) for the FC-1 through one of these: Turnigy Receiver Controlled On/Off Switch and use a spring loaded switch on the transmitter to momentarily interrupt power to the FC1. By the way, this also works fine using Futaba.

FC-1 ? Do you mean the Kingtech Telemetry?

dccatl 02-25-2018 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Dansy (Post 12408844)
FC-1 ? Do you mean the Kingtech Telemetry?

I have a Xicoy FC-1 Flight Computer but it works the same regarding fuel consumption as the stand-alone Xicoy telemetry unit, in fact, I used one of those with the same RC switch setup before I got the FC-1. Both units work with any Xicoy ECU, I'm using it with both a Kingtech and JetsMunt turbine.

Dansy 02-25-2018 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by dccatl (Post 12408854)
I have a Xicoy FC-1 Flight Computer but it works the same regarding fuel consumption as the stand-alone Xicoy telemetry unit, in fact, I used one of those with the same RC switch setup before I got the FC-1. Both units work with any Xicoy ECU, I'm using it with both a Kingtech and JetsMunt turbine.

Sorry, the G2 which I think is what we are talking about doesn’t used the Xicoy ecu.....its the KingTech ECU and KingTech Telemetry device, which is different....but this might still work, I’m gone try something.

aaronforth 02-25-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Dansy (Post 12408869)
Sorry, the G2 which I think is what we are talking about doesn’t used the Xicoy ecu.....its the KingTech ECU and KingTech Telemetry device, which is different....but this might still work, I’m gone try something.


it works the same way, you have to interrupt power...I have both


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