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Old 02-26-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default ACE R/C 4-40

I am smiles all around today. Why? Well Sunday afternoon I was the winning bidder on a NIB ACE R/C 4-40 kit. Yeah I know it is not some 3-D stunt plane, or some great looking scale plane or what ever, but to me it had to be the best flying plane I ever built. That plane was a joy to fly evey time I took it up.

After I smashed mine I was dissappointed that ACE R/C no longer sold it or if I remember were even still in buisness. I tried to replace it with an Easy Sport 40. I will tell you one thing, those two planes are nothing a like.

I am thinking that maybe some time this week or early next it will be on my porch and it will be time to assemble the lite-ply box with built up wings and tail again. I will do the same modification of decreasing the dihedral to 3/4". This time I am going with a transparent orange and white covering job. I am also going to install an ACE Radio system in it with metal higher capacity longer life battery packs. Engine. Hmm don't know what to use yet. My original one flew with a Surpass 48 which is in my Tiger 2 and works well with that which I do not want to remove. Maybe a Magnum 52 will power this bird. The 48 worked good but a little more power to hold it on the nose before I put full rudder in it or let it tail slide and flip the nose out will be good.
Old 02-26-2007, 09:17 PM
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Hey,

I got mine about 2 weeks ago, just need to cover (Yellow and Trans. Red) and off it goes. I'm staying stock except adding wheel pants. I'm using the same 40 Surpass I had in my first 4-40 15 yrs ago. Best of luck, let's hope someone brings this kit back.
Old 02-27-2007, 01:26 AM
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I sure hope somebody brings these kits back. Didn't Doc D.B. Mathews design all 4 40 60 120 planes. I sure would love to have a 1.20 bipe kit still a 4 60 with a saito 80 in it. It's covered in plum crazy monokote. He also designed the bingo planes my dad was thinking and stockpiled these kits in 40 60 and the big bingo. I think the plans at one time were sold through rcm magazine. These planes are awesome and fly great good luck fellas with your 4 40's.
Old 02-27-2007, 12:37 PM
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I agree it would be nice to have them back either in KIT or ARF form. Like I said I cut the dihedral way down from the plans to increase aerobactic capability, but it also retained ease of landing. With a steady head wind around 10 MPH I could flare a landing and land it at a full stall and all it would do is set down on the wheels. It also flat spun great. Yes I know cutting down the dihedral allowed it do this but even then it was easy to put it into a flat spin and hold it and just let it decend until you wanted to recover.

I think the biggest thing that made them so nice was that they did in deed fly on the wing and not the engine. The plane was not a snap rolling wonder nor would it perform tight fast aliron only rolls and no way it would even approach the 3-D manuvers of today. It was als not designed for that. A friend of mine built the 4-120 after I built my 4-40. He also let me fly it a couple of times. Man was it nice.

I lost mine because I messed up. I pushed how well it flew to close to the deck and took it out.
Old 03-08-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default RE: ACE R/C 4-40

I just saw that Model Aviation has the plans for the 4-60 featured this month. I wonder if they have the plans for the 4-40 too?? maybe we'll see some of em out at the field.
Old 03-09-2007, 11:20 AM
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The 4-60 is a good flying plane too. A friend of mine had one he made the same modification I did to mine (seriously reduce the amount of dihedral) and watched him fly that plane many times. I had the chance to fly it a couple of times and the only difference I noticed was that was bigger. When I did take mine out I looked into getting another one but alas by that time ACE R/C was out of business.

The one plane of the series that I wanted some day was the 4-120.
Old 03-09-2007, 10:07 PM
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I've seen one 4-120, back when a 120 was 'giant scale'. LOL. flew just like the others, floated like a kite. Talk about a perfect second plane.
Old 03-10-2007, 05:12 PM
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I've been lurking on RCU for a few weeks now. I got into RC in the late '80s and had a lot of fun for 5-6 years before a new marriage, busy job, and life in general caused me to put away the sticks and sandpaper.

I just re-started building a 4-60 Bipe that I started in 1991. Back then I got the fuse and half of the top wing done, when I got disgusted with the rib die cutting and decided to make my own ribs. I have an OS 91 Surpass II from 1991 or so that has never been run (still has the shipping oil in it).



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Og,
I know the feeling about getting 'distracted' from RC. I have planes in my shop that were started as much as 10 yrs ago, and never finished. Your bipe project sounds like a nice way to come back. I have 2 91 Surpasses, one that I swear is held together with blue RTV silicon, and they both are the best engines I ever had.
Old 04-20-2007, 08:42 AM
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well, if anyone's reading this:
the 4-40's covered, looks pretty good for the first project in several years. I'll post pics as soon as the windshield and pilot arrive. the orig windshield had a crack I couldn't fix, so I ordered a reasonable substitute from my LHS. As far as a pilot, I can't decide between a ****ted up Barbi (which I had in my original) or a Cap'n Eddy (which I found is still made by a 3rd party, but expensive). I put in the radio (new Futaba 6ch with the 2.4 GHz system...nice radio). I had surgery on my arm this week, so I can't lift anything for the next 6 weeks, no flying for me . I've also ordered the parts to get a couple of my other hangar queens in the air. Hope to be up soon.
Old 04-21-2007, 03:01 AM
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You gotta put Cap'n Eddy in the cockpit !!! He piloted both of my 4-60s. Did an excellent job, too.
Old 04-21-2007, 10:13 AM
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yeah, you're probably right, the Cap'n is the way to go here.
Old 04-22-2007, 03:13 PM
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I blame captian eddy for the loss of two planes (it wasn't me, I swear!). First he crashed my beutiful 1/5 sig cub, but then i put him behind the sticks of a scrathcbuilt and he flipped it over. It could've been me, but it's easier to blame the stuffed rubber in the cockpit!
I have a late model Bingo .40 sitting in the shed, I'm gonna put a saito .82 and a wireless camera in it!
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:34 PM
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The Cap'n eddie I found turns out to be a bit too big to use, He'll end up sitting about an inch over the back of the turtledeck. Not sure If I should use him anyway or go with something else...I hate making decisions of this magnitude.
Old 04-23-2007, 07:03 AM
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Cap'n Eddy knows how to fly 4-40s. If he's too large, buy his little brother. He's pretty good, too.
Old 04-29-2007, 11:39 AM
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would that be Lieutenant Eddy??
Old 07-25-2007, 06:36 PM
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well, I've finally been flying the 4-40 for about two months. I can go out, burn a couple of tanks of fuel, and come home in one piece. Not a scratch on it yet (I know, I just cursed myself). It flies just as good as I remember, no problems with deadsticks, and flies all day on 1/2 throttle. They really need to rerelease this kit.
Old 08-05-2007, 01:18 PM
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I sure agree with this entire thread. I have never had a plane that was so much fun, dependable and long lasting. Mine first flew with a Saito 40 two strole and flew for 2 years back in the early 90's.

Then I got into Electric, and converted it to Electric, (Astro Cobalt 15 Geared and 8 nicads) flew it for another year, and finally sold it for some dumb reason.

I'd sure like to track another one down, and build it again. With the outrunner motors and Li-Po's if should come in so much lighter and allow it to perform much better.

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Old 08-05-2007, 01:56 PM
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check EBay, they're on there almost weekly, plan on paying over $100 for it though. Pretty bad considering they were $49.95 new. Good luck
Old 08-05-2007, 02:06 PM
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Excellent Planes the whole series. I have a 4-60 finished in TR Red and white as on the box. I have no dihedral in my wing. My others flew great this way. Still gentle as a lamb. Two years ago I got on Ebay the master plans and templates from the company that cleaned out the Ace building. 4-20, 4-40,4-60,4-120,4-40 Bipe, And a unreleased biplane called the Evening Star. I have them packed up to preserve them. I'm going to school now for ACAD and will be converting them to CAD files for laser cutting. I agree that they need to be re-released as a kit ( so you can make your own modifications I myself have the same past as OgRIB Getting back into RC again after a 20 year hiatus. I have an original OS60FS NIB I've been oiling up for 20 years now in the plane. I haven't flown yet but will soon.


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I just listed a bunch of Ace kits in RC Hangout. I still have the bingo,big bingo,4-120 bipe,440 bipe,and so far a 460 mono,and a 440 mono. A 120 Seamaster--you pick up cheap...
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Hi,

I e-mailed you this morning reg a 120 Seamaster instruction manual? Do you still have one?

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I found one months ago, and built it. DeJaVu all oover again.

Great kit - flies excellent

Forgot to mention - It's Electric. What Else???

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Here is a pic of my 4-60 Bipe. Got to love these airplanes!
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Default RE: ACE R/C 4-40

I've just bought an Ace 4 60 at an auction, and I need to know what the normal CG range is.
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