gp cap 232 setup?????
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Hey All,
Need some help from the more experienced.
I am building the GP Cap 232 .40.
Going to put a Saito .91 in it. After the engine is broke in good what prop would be best .
I did build the wing for 2 aileron servos.
Everyone says this plane comes out tail heavy so I was thinking of putting the rudder servo up front with a pull pull system and one servo for the elevators.
? Do I center the rudder servo and put the ele servo to the side of it? If so will the 2 pushrods for the ele's still hookup and operate propperly.
I have never delt with pull pull. How should I run them out the fuse near the bottom to the Klett tailwheel's horn on the rudder?
Do I just slit the covering or add some wood and cut holes?
Any pics of some setups would be great.
Let me know what you all think of this plane and what I should expect.
Thank You All and to all great flights.
Need some help from the more experienced.
I am building the GP Cap 232 .40.
Going to put a Saito .91 in it. After the engine is broke in good what prop would be best .
I did build the wing for 2 aileron servos.
Everyone says this plane comes out tail heavy so I was thinking of putting the rudder servo up front with a pull pull system and one servo for the elevators.
? Do I center the rudder servo and put the ele servo to the side of it? If so will the 2 pushrods for the ele's still hookup and operate propperly.
I have never delt with pull pull. How should I run them out the fuse near the bottom to the Klett tailwheel's horn on the rudder?
Do I just slit the covering or add some wood and cut holes?
Any pics of some setups would be great.
Let me know what you all think of this plane and what I should expect.
Thank You All and to all great flights.
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I'm building one myself at the moment, and also plan to put a Saito 91 in it. I intend to keep the rudder servo a the back, as although the 91 is lightweight compared to other 4strokes, it is still a few ozs heavier than the 46 size 2strokes the plane is designed for.
Therefore I still think the rudder servo out back may be needed. however I have moved it to the side as I think it is a bit exposed underneath.
As for prop, I will experiment, but I'm currently thinking of the APC 14x7.
Pull-pull systems are quite easy with a bit of planning. Fit the elevator servo first, as it is not too important where the rudder servo is placed, as long as the wires have free movement. As for exits, use flexible push rod inners as guides. These only need to be placed at the back end to guide the wires over/through the last former, and out at the back, through holes cut in the wood. Make sure there is a good few inches between the exit and the rudder. You can extend the guides al the way to the servo if you wish, makes it a bit easier to fee the wire through.
Mines coming along well, should be ready in a couple of weeks or so. Still waiting for the engine I ordered though. Think it is lost in the post.
Therefore I still think the rudder servo out back may be needed. however I have moved it to the side as I think it is a bit exposed underneath.
As for prop, I will experiment, but I'm currently thinking of the APC 14x7.
Pull-pull systems are quite easy with a bit of planning. Fit the elevator servo first, as it is not too important where the rudder servo is placed, as long as the wires have free movement. As for exits, use flexible push rod inners as guides. These only need to be placed at the back end to guide the wires over/through the last former, and out at the back, through holes cut in the wood. Make sure there is a good few inches between the exit and the rudder. You can extend the guides al the way to the servo if you wish, makes it a bit easier to fee the wire through.
Mines coming along well, should be ready in a couple of weeks or so. Still waiting for the engine I ordered though. Think it is lost in the post.
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I used an OS 70 on mine. No lead needed to balance, just movement of the battery. Mine was built mostly per the plan.
It's good that you used two aileron servos. I would suggest making the ailerons bigger also. I was disappointed with the roll rate of mine in stock trim.
I would recommend leaving the rudder servo in the rear, but enclosing it in the fuselage. the short linkage works excellent, but the servo is kind of vulnerable in the stock location.
The landing gear mount is probably the worst part of the kit design. If you land on the runway every time then it won't be a problem, but if you ever have a dead stick and miss the runway you will more than likely will be reinstalling your gear mount. It's a good idea to reinforce it now. I added an extra doubler in mine and use 1/4 20 inserts with nylon screws to mount my gear. This way if I have a problem it just breaks the screws and doesn't rip out the mount.
I might add that you picked the right engine for this plane too. It flies great with the 70, but the vertical performance is limited. With a Saito 91 mounted it should be quite a performer.
Have fun, I've had a lot with mine!
It's good that you used two aileron servos. I would suggest making the ailerons bigger also. I was disappointed with the roll rate of mine in stock trim.
I would recommend leaving the rudder servo in the rear, but enclosing it in the fuselage. the short linkage works excellent, but the servo is kind of vulnerable in the stock location.
The landing gear mount is probably the worst part of the kit design. If you land on the runway every time then it won't be a problem, but if you ever have a dead stick and miss the runway you will more than likely will be reinstalling your gear mount. It's a good idea to reinforce it now. I added an extra doubler in mine and use 1/4 20 inserts with nylon screws to mount my gear. This way if I have a problem it just breaks the screws and doesn't rip out the mount.
I might add that you picked the right engine for this plane too. It flies great with the 70, but the vertical performance is limited. With a Saito 91 mounted it should be quite a performer.
Have fun, I've had a lot with mine!
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Thank You all for the info.
I had a GP Giles 202 .46 with the rudder servo in the back. I put 2 rods on it made it like a pull pull - push pull, gave it alot of athority and stability. Might do the same on this one.
If anyone has pics of their birds and or setups post them please.
Again thanks and have a great day.
I had a GP Giles 202 .46 with the rudder servo in the back. I put 2 rods on it made it like a pull pull - push pull, gave it alot of athority and stability. Might do the same on this one.
If anyone has pics of their birds and or setups post them please.
Again thanks and have a great day.
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From: panama,
This is my CAP 232, it has a OS .61FX engine, one servo in each aileron mounted sideways inside the wing with only the servo arm showing, the cowl was made with fiberglass instead of the one that comes standard. It was covered with the CocaCola logo on the wings and cocacola drops in the fuselage and cowl, the whole thing was done with monokote except for the cowl which is painted. In order to achive the CG that the manual describes I had to install the battery right next to the servos(elev, throtlle).
Take a look:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80452422AfATNJ
Take a look:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80452422AfATNJ
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Ive heard a lot of conflicting reports on how this plane flys..Some say it flies terrible others say its great. I was planning on building one of these also. Any flight reports would be helpful..
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Flies well.
Having built one, I'm glad I increased the size of the ailerons, and if I was to build another one I would reduce the dihedral and increase the size of the aero balance on the rudder to try to neutralise the knife edge coupling.
Having built one, I'm glad I increased the size of the ailerons, and if I was to build another one I would reduce the dihedral and increase the size of the aero balance on the rudder to try to neutralise the knife edge coupling.
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Flies well.
Having built one, I'm glad I increased the size of the ailerons, and if I was to build another one I would reduce the dihedral and increase the size of the aero balance on the rudder to try to neutralise the knife edge coupling.
Flies well.
Having built one, I'm glad I increased the size of the ailerons, and if I was to build another one I would reduce the dihedral and increase the size of the aero balance on the rudder to try to neutralise the knife edge coupling.




