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UH oh!
I done gooffed. [:@]
elad

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Elad, no you didn't. Just my poor attempt at humor. Did you get that Y harness yet? I think you'll like flying the Eagle better when both aielerons are working. You gotta be excited, getting your fist plane, and all. When I got mine, I started construction about 8:00 pm. Next thing I knew, the wife came and hauled me off to bed. It was 3:00 am! Seemed like an hour to me. I ended up framing that thing in a weekend. Wish I could build that fast now.

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Yes, you did, Elad.

It was Don who posted the picture, and really, he forgot to put any film in the camera. That's why it's all white. Here's the real picture:

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oh ya one little joke and the whole thing SNOWBALLS ha ha
don

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Tom,

Well I'm so goofy sometimes. I'm glad I didn't goof this time. :) Actually, when I read that line I had to chuckle, I just wanted to make sure.

Ron didn't say he would put the "y" connector on the Eagle 2. I sort of am taking it for granted that he will, but if not I'll just order one when I order a few boxes of rubber bands etc.

I'll bet it is more responsive with both ailerons working. I'll have to be especially attentive for the first few minutes after hooking it up that way. Ron can do quick loops and fairly tight rolls with it the way it is now. That's from his experienced piloting skills and the power of the .46, I'm assuming.

Actually, instead of excited I'm a little apprehensive. I think I'm starting to realize having the responsibility of doing repairs after I finally solo and have the inevitable hard landings. Weird, huh? I guess I'm looking too far ahead.

It was exciting when Ron said for me to do a take-off for the first few times. Exciting might not be quite the right word. "Nerve wracking" is what it was, but nerve wracking in a really FUN! way.

To me, exciting is the anticipation of waiting for the delivery truck to bring some new item I've ordered after researching for a few months to decide on all the features that I think will make the PERFECT COMBINATION of what I want it to have.

The climax of that excitement is opening the box with shaky hands and telling myself, "Calm down Dale." And, "Don't drop anything and break it." And, "Look at yourself old man, you're acting and feeling like a 12 year old kid."

The excitement of having this particular plane may be delayed until I put it in MY pick-up truck at the end of tomorrow's instruction session, or when I bring it into the house and place it gingerly in position to wait for the next session, or maybe even until next week when we take our virgin trip TO the flying field.

Dad will probably come home today. His heart rate has been normal since ICU last Saturday. Doc said he has bronchitis and pneumonia, so he'll have new medicines to help fill his big brown pill bag. He'll also get a blood thinner and will have regular tests to see that he gets set to just the right dosage. The thinner is to help prevent a stroke. I don't know if that's a 2 stroke,,, or a 4 stroke...

Ya see that Tom? I'm all the way back on topic now.

I sort of realized he wasn't in really bad condition when, on his first day there, he started trying to line up "home health? care" with all the lady nurses he saw.

The weather has been overcast the last few days. Temps are ranging from the 60s to the 80s. I hope it doesn't rain tomorrow or Saturday. Hey! Look! I see the Sun is trying to break through the clouds.

Well, the Eagle flies tomorrow guys.

Let's just see if I can keep my plane aerobatic, not acrobatic. ----- elad

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Bill,

Thanks for the clarification on Tom's memory.

I notice you posted this pic at nearly 3:00 AM. Were you out flying and taking pictures at that time?

I can make out that the plane looks like the picture of the one in the margin of your recent posts. In the picture I got in the reply, the sky is navy blue and I can barely make out the plane against a moonlit cloud background even when I view my screen from different angles.

Is Tom fooling around with your settings again?

elad

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SNOWBALLS huh? I better leave that one As Is.

You guys are a real hoot.

elad

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Elad:

It is actually an in-flight picture of a cloudy sky. Really. Copy it into PhotoShop and raise the brightness to about plus 180 and you can see it. So in spite of what you think you see, it's really a picture.

And yes, I am a nightowl, and I think everyone shares your anticipation of the newly arrived package.

Glad your dad's better. Sounds like he's as much a lecher as I am. Home "Health" care indeed. Haw.

Bill.

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Excited, apprehensive, what's the difference. I've still gotta get that first flight of my DVIII outa the way. After the last episode, I don't know what I am. I just wish it was over. Last forcast I saw doesn't look like it'll be soon, tho. Anyway, good luck with YOUR Eagle. Have fun and bring it home in one piece.

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elad
after my dumb joke I expected a BLIZZARD of similar comments but all I got was a CHILL???
that eagle has found a new happy home fly as much as you can as long as you can- it really is the best way to earn your wings and be good at flying- concentrate on your landings and putting the plane right where you want it -keep thinking about that 52 four stroke in a tiger 2 -what a nice combo that would be -I probably will retire mine this winter- plane is wore out- motor is wore out- servos are wore out darn coverings wore out-countless hours of fun and learning cant wait for my next one i will be follwing my own advice and gettin a 52 four stroke and another tiger- yeah I probabably make it a tail dragger I just like the the way you see the tail come up- a nice ground run -then a nice shallow lift off -put the rest of the power to it and go hot rod or on a 15 20 mph breeze doing heli landings or flying sideways down the crosswind runway I really do go home with a smile and no longer care if work was bad today cause "I really did some cool stuff at the field today" this hobby makes you feel like a kid again its just my outside that got older
GO FLY HAVE FUN thats what it is all about
Don

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Elad, Don's not kidding. His outside is getting older. Mine isn't tho. The bald head and gray beard are just a disguise!

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Elad, It's the weekend. Did you get your Eagle yet? Excited, who's excited? I'm as bad as a little kid.

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Man, I've been out of the loop for this thread. Geesh. So how's it going Elad?

Don't be nervous about the eagle II. HAHA it's actually probably the easier of the models to build. (I assume you are building from kit?) The thing that gets me is how after you buy the covering with kits, you end up spending almost the same amount IF NOT MORE on your first model than if you bought an arf. I want something I can build cheaply and see a nice profit on if I sold it. But I doubt I would sell anything really. :) The guys in my area view ARFS as 'not as up to par' as something that would be built from scratch. I personally don't have any views on this other than to say I would personally like to build my own. I am currently looking at a 30! year old kit that was sitting in a damp basement (noticed yellow marks as the plans rolled out) but the wood looks brand new. The plans are in great shape except for the yellowing every 3 inches or so. That will prolly annoy me. But it's 65 bux. There is NO instruction manual. ANd it's a biplane with a 60" wingspan!
The cheapest I have seen is from tower hobbies. 99 bux. I am just wondering what to do. I would hate to get into this project only to find I fubard it bad. But I would also do this up right. Painting it and covering it as expertly as possible. Then if I couldn't find the cash or guts to fly it (as it would probably be my 3rd plane by then), then I would sell it for a great profit. But like I said, doubt it. But that's my rationale for buying it. If I don't fly it I can make something off it.

Sigh. I wish I knew what to do. I would really like to have something with good plans and instructions, and would hate to spend the cash on something that I will end up destorying or wasting because I can't put it together ya know..

Anyway, let us know whats up with the eagle eh?

S

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Sincraft, It's only $65.00. The wood in the kit has to be worth that much. What kit is it? Having no instruction manual shouldn't be a problem if you've built a few kits. Tou just have to study the plans and build in a logical sequence. If you don't feel that you have the experience, get something with more complete instructions. For the money, tho, I don't see how you can go wrong. PS. Wonder where Elad is.

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Bill,

Thanks for the tip on lookijng at the photo. I think I still have a photo program on here somewhere. I hunt it up and try using it that way. I need to get another digital camera.

You, and Dad share that in common alright. I would too but my wife keeps my "Y" adapter disconnected. ha

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Tom,

I share your anticipation over getting to fly when weather doesn't co-operate. There are days I wish there was a way to get under a shed, tether the plane and just handle the controls while the plane floated. Maybe that would work with a plane that will hoover.

Here's wishing you some Sun and light breezes.

elad

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Don,

I guess most of us had a cup of hot chocolate that day and were thinking about staying politically correct.

I've had possession of the Eagle now for 2 flying days this past weekend and didn't get to fly it. It just happened that it was my weekend to work and I'm usually too tired to tax myself further after 12 hours at the salt mine. So, first of all I can't get therre early enough to take advantage of the decreasing numbers ofdaylight hours. Also, on Saturday, this time, there was several new club members at the fly site that I haven't met before. Some of them had theit planes there and I just had a goood time watching.

This coming weekend Ron and I will get to the airport about 1 1/2 hours earlier than usual, on Friday anyway, so I can get in a lot more air time than normal. I suspect he's going to give me an introduction to landing. I'm aware that landing consists of several challenges going on all at once. So, I'll definnitely have to be concentrating and paying very close attention.

I'll have to learn dead stick landing pretty soon too, but don't know how much new stuff he'll throw at me in one instruction session. Whenever Ron takes off, he gains a lot of altitude really quickly so he can have room to get back to the strip in case of engine failure. I tend to rise with a much shalower ascent because it looks like a real plane taking off. I guess I do that too, for fear of stalling.

A few of the club members (and several others) have suggested I get a Tiger 2 for a second plane and some have suggested a 4 * 40. And I've been looking at a site that demonsrates building planes using coroplast (sign making material.) WWW.SPAD.com if you haven't seen the site. I'll have to look closely to pick a desigh that's not too advanced as far as flying it is concerned. That sounds like a fun project. I'll always have access to an experienced pilot to take it up on its first flight to get it trimmed right.

That's about where I am now and what I'm thinking of for a second plane.

elad

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Tom,

I saw a bumper snicker that said, "God made a few perfect heads,,,, the rest have hair."

elad

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Elad:

Then mine must be in the ranks of perfection.

Bill.

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Tom,

I got the Eagle Friday evening. Ron put the "Y" connector on it already and gave me the charger and the radio. It wasn't the model I called the name of (Comanche) in a previous post. I'm looking at it now. It's an FM radio. It's a Futaba model FP-T6VA. It also says SKYPORT 6A. It has 2 dual rate switches, one for alerons and one for elevator. It also has mixing functions: elevator to flap and flaperon with aleron differential. It has a battery condition meter at the top center position. That'll be handy. Maybe I need one of those installed on the plane too. Or I could just use one of those ESV thingeys. It has enough switches on the outside to make me think it's mom was a porcupine.

Learning to use it will be an education in itself. Flying a plane might be classified a secondary task just under using the radio. ha Under the battery compartment lid it has several adjustment pots.

I haven't flown the plane since I got it, but hopefully will get a lot of flying time on it this coming Friday and Saturday.

Something I forgot to mention earlier about the plane is that the aleron servos are mounted on the wing bottom surface. There are 2 of them instead of just one. I think that's one of those redundant safety measures I may have mentioned before. I have seen plane for planes that use one servo for the alerons. Using just one is fine though.

I have heard of some builders putting 2 radios in their high dollar plane for redundancy. That makes good sence to me.

I hope ya get the maiden flight on the Fokker thiss weekend.

elad

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don,

u r puns of fun.

elad

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Sincraft,

Welcome back to the thread.

Congratulatons on the find and good luck getting it built. I'll probably get a Bipe some day. I like the looks of 'em, as I am guessing a lot of people do.

I forgot to ask Ron about the building manual for the Eagle. I bought it RTF. It is the plane I am training on. The only planes I ever assembled are the ones I got as a kid at the Ben franklin stores. Some of you guys know about how old I am now huh? Those planes were strictly gliders. There was a plastic "Y" that you squeezed the bottom of so you could insert the wings into place. Then you pushed the part you squeezed to fastened the wings to the fuse. You slid the wings back or forth along the profile typw fuse to adjust the CG. It was balsa and cost about a quarter I think.

Oooohhh, Now I remember thay also had a propelled model of that glider that used a rubber band for power. This was the high buck design. It was a big decision for a kid to make at 75 cents.

This weekend had a lot of distractions. I had to work Fri. Sat. and Sun 12 hrs each day. I was TARD TARD TARD at the end of each day. On Sat. there were a lot of people out at the airport. One member brought 2 new planes each for its maiden flight. One was the ARF Eagle II. I got there in time to see it fly. I missed the flight of the first one. They said that a hatch door came undone during the flight. That hatch had the switch mounted to it. When the hatch flew off it disconnected the switch and control was completely lost. The engine stayed at full throttle and the plane's final descent had the attitude of a post hole digger. THWUMP!!! You know the sound. Big pieces, small pieces, etc. And at least one shattered heart.

He told me he put that one toghther as a kit instead of ARF.

Oh, BTW, if you knew what you were doing we'd still need you here to tell us what we're doing.

elad

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Bill, Tom, et all,

Do you guys know anything about Burma Shave?

Back when I ws a kid the Burma Shave company placed small wooden signs along the highway to advertise their canned, pressurized, shaving cream, at least they did down here in the South. There were usually 3 or 4 of them in a sequence. The signs were small and were mounted on a fence post. There was a lone board whereupon the words were hand painted. They had a poem that conveyed, sometimes a word of wisdon or just a humorus phrase to remind readers of the product, and the last of the signs simply said Burma Shave. Each of the signs was placed far enough apart that you couldn't see the next one for a minute or two of riding down the road. so there was time to anticipate about the content of the message or the next phrase thereof. I am reminded of one of those series of signs since I got Bill's last post. It read:

IN THIS AGE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


OF THICK AND THIN ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


OUR HEAD GROWS BALD ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


BUT NOT OUR CHIN ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


BURMA SHAVE.

elad

I miss those Burma Shave signs. :)

How would you guys advertise some sort of RC airplaine products?

Let me see....

IF EAGLES FLY ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


WITHOUT THEIR WINGS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


THERE'S TINY PIECES


DENTS ANE DINGS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


EPOXY

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Elad:

Yes, I remember the Burma-Shave signs. I first saw them when the "Fancy" Burma-Shave was in a tube. That was "Brushless," you didn't have to put the soap cake in your shaving mug. Aerosol cans came many years later.

Another "Modernized" Burma-Shave sequence:

That's sort of a slam and plug combined. The OS 91 seems to be really unreliable, if you follow the threads in "Engines," and "Kading&Brodbeck" is, of course, K&B.

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And another:

Haw.

Bill.