Air Hogs Aero Ace!
#1301
ORIGINAL: FERNDALE AIR FORCE
Hi all, There is a post a few pages back about not flying out the battery, that when the planes starts getting sloppy and can't climb to go charge it. The writer sounded like he knew what he was talking about. I have also read posts that explain the reason for not modding your controller to an a/c adapter, the batteries are used as limiters to what the charger will put out.
Here is my response, unless you have modded out your tx, fly the batteries out. Then turn the plane off/on and burn the battery again, and then do it once more. Do this once you notice that your plane is not performing as well as in the past. Seems to last me about ten charges. It is not exciting to fly at 3 feet and slow at full throttle, but you will be happy later.
Also, an earlier post mentioned using teflon-based oil to re-lube the bearings I have found that this is true. Some on a q-tip and spin the motor.
monster, where would I look for your tank?
Tim
Hi all, There is a post a few pages back about not flying out the battery, that when the planes starts getting sloppy and can't climb to go charge it. The writer sounded like he knew what he was talking about. I have also read posts that explain the reason for not modding your controller to an a/c adapter, the batteries are used as limiters to what the charger will put out.
Here is my response, unless you have modded out your tx, fly the batteries out. Then turn the plane off/on and burn the battery again, and then do it once more. Do this once you notice that your plane is not performing as well as in the past. Seems to last me about ten charges. It is not exciting to fly at 3 feet and slow at full throttle, but you will be happy later.
Also, an earlier post mentioned using teflon-based oil to re-lube the bearings I have found that this is true. Some on a q-tip and spin the motor.
monster, where would I look for your tank?
Tim
If you were to mod the transmitter with an AC power source, most AC 9v adapters put out less than 500ma. I have shorted an alkaline battery and achieved well over 2 Amps of current. The charging circuit should only take the amount of current drawn as it must reduce the voltage. Voltage should be the only factor limiting/increasing the charge rate.
With that said I do not believe the batteries act like "limiters."
I recently picked up an Aero Ace at Wall-Mart for $39.99CDN!!
Ryan
#1303
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
I can't figure out why (or how) Walmart charges $10 more then anyone else!!![sm=devious.gif] Since they advertise that they are the best price place I assume you will prove to them that you could have gotten the plane at TRU or Target for $30 (they usually call the other store and ask for price varification - I've done that on other things). Then they refund the difference (though it is better to do the dickering up front before they have your bucks). Good luck. Let us know if you got some green back. -
Oh wait -- I see you are in Canadian dollors - maybe that's the issue.
Oh wait -- I see you are in Canadian dollors - maybe that's the issue.
#1305
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
I just had a great new expereince with one of my older AAs. After all the fun of cannards, wing tip mods, nose weights and stuff I decided that one of the things I had not done is played with wheels. So I used the paper clip and button method to make a set. Actually the buttons didn't work so well - first you have to have ones you can drill really little holes throgh the center and not break through the already existing holes. Then it turned out that the buttons I had were not thick enough to give good stability on the wire axel. So I made little wheels out of hard wood and, while leaving the bit around the axel about 1/8 inch think, sanded the rest down to about 1/16th or less. This lightened them up a bit to (they were too heavy and even with nose weights off the plane nosed over).
Placement on the under carrage is important also. Too far forward and it's too nose heavy. Too far back and the nose will tip over with thrust. I streightened the clip out and then bent it with a "V" in the center before I bent the legs down. this allowed me to have a good flat surface to tape down so the whole thing would not just rotate backward on takeoff or landing. I used double face tape between the body and wire and black duct tape over the top. That was very secure. The ends of the axes are bent up to keep the wheels on. I suppose the hardest part for most of you would be getting a drill bit small enough to just clear the wire size. I am a wood worker and do some suff that requires #50 -60 wire bits.
Anyway - i was never able to actully take off on the wheels. It was just too hard to get a smooth enough surface and the plane always twisted around in circles. But with hand launch it flew great, looked a lot more fun then without wheels and made greart touch-and-gos and landings.
Placement on the under carrage is important also. Too far forward and it's too nose heavy. Too far back and the nose will tip over with thrust. I streightened the clip out and then bent it with a "V" in the center before I bent the legs down. this allowed me to have a good flat surface to tape down so the whole thing would not just rotate backward on takeoff or landing. I used double face tape between the body and wire and black duct tape over the top. That was very secure. The ends of the axes are bent up to keep the wheels on. I suppose the hardest part for most of you would be getting a drill bit small enough to just clear the wire size. I am a wood worker and do some suff that requires #50 -60 wire bits.
Anyway - i was never able to actully take off on the wheels. It was just too hard to get a smooth enough surface and the plane always twisted around in circles. But with hand launch it flew great, looked a lot more fun then without wheels and made greart touch-and-gos and landings.
#1308
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
Hmmmm? Pics didn't seem to get attched- don't know what happened - anyway - I will add the third wheel and let you all know how it went -thanks
#1309
Junior Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Hong Kong, HONG KONG
McNeil, I also made that V on the base heh. Simple solution after my stupid prototype. However instad of buttons I use hotwheels. There're many to choose from, be patient and go thru their whole stock. I found some really nice thick and big wheels yet light, out of their 1930's (dick tracy style) collections.
Other nice wheels to use are the cheap china bus and taxi ones. These come with rubber wheels for good traction.
Other nice wheels to use are the cheap china bus and taxi ones. These come with rubber wheels for good traction.
#1310
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
Really great ideas!. I'll be on the look out. I also have a bunch of old and rather decreped hot wheels so I might just snip a couple off those. I did add the tail wheel but between the wind and trying to get all the wheels as light as I Icould I've not really tested the whole thing except for rollng control on the kitchen floor and it did do better. I was fastly approaching the weight limit of the plane so these ideas will be a big help.
#1311
Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Baltimore,
MD
McNeil - Try Dupro 1/2 inch wheels and 1/32 wire on the front, 3/8 inch wheel and 1/32 wire on the rear wheel. I used about 6 inches of wire for the front and 2 inches for the rear. My AA resembles a HZ Challenger with the LG. I inserted the front LG into a slit I cut about 1 cm in front of the control switch, about 1/2 inch deep. I bracketed the 1/32 wire with 2 pieces of 1/2 inch popsicle sticks for stability. I used Gorilla glue to secure the front LG into the plane and packing tape for the rear LG which is attached where the boom meets the tail. With LG and 3 Thill fishing lights for night flying (1 under the nose, the other 2 in the recessed areas where the strut attached to the upper wing, my mono wing AA weighs 22.6 grams. For take off, I use about 8 feet of Hotwheels track as a runway. The front LG straddles the track and the rear LG travels on the track. This allows for the AA to gain enough speed to ROG without spinning. Perfect takeoffs everytime. Just a suggestion that has worked for me.
#1312
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
I'm off to the hooby store
Got lots of old hot wheels track around too - a good use. I always wondered why I kept all that old stuff - so did my wife. Now I have a good excuse for keeping a lot of orther "useless" stuff!
Got lots of old hot wheels track around too - a good use. I always wondered why I kept all that old stuff - so did my wife. Now I have a good excuse for keeping a lot of orther "useless" stuff!
#1315
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
Not only 4 on one but flying three AAs tied together (there is a pic of it somewhere) - you take the lower wings off the three planes. Use one plane in the center and glue the top wing of it into the lower wing slots of the other two (one on each side obviously). Doesn't tend to fly so good without more fussing balence and such. BUt is sad to sound like a swarm of bees. I wonder about leaving the lower wing on the outside of the two outside planes?
Goto the forum wattflyer.com and to "Indoor and Micro Electirc planes" and to "Aero Ace Mods" page 2 post#39
Goto the forum wattflyer.com and to "Indoor and Micro Electirc planes" and to "Aero Ace Mods" page 2 post#39
#1316
ORIGINAL: jamie
HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT 4 ENGINES ON ONE
HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT 4 ENGINES ON ONE
motors to work for steering and have the inner motors work only
on throttle.
Ran across the perfect field for flying about a half mile from work.
It's 3 Soccer fields in one with not a soul in sight. Everyday I checked
it out and found no one is even remotely interested in this large field.
Perfect!
So today I drove in and a sign greeted me at the entrance:
NO RC PLANES ALLOWED! $500 FINE! [:@]
Some days...
#1321
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
Here's an effort to upload a couple wheel mod pics using the hot wheels (front wheels with the car axel stil attached and mounted on a little spacer block. I have added the rear wheel but with t he wind and STILL not finding my hot wheels track, I've done no more then make sure the plane can carry the weight (I know becase I had to go up on the roof of my house to get the plane - well ya - the wind helped that part - but it will fly).
I think later I may make the front wheels wider (I'll have to make a new axil) so that the plane is more stable on take off.
I think later I may make the front wheels wider (I'll have to make a new axil) so that the plane is more stable on take off.
#1322
ORIGINAL: McNeil
Not only 4 on one but flying three AAs tied together (there is a pic of it somewhere) - you take the lower wings off the three planes. Use one plane in the center and glue the top wing of it into the lower wing slots of the other two (one on each side obviously). Doesn't tend to fly so good without more fussing balence and such. BUt is sad to sound like a swarm of bees. I wonder about leaving the lower wing on the outside of the two outside planes?
Goto the forum wattflyer.com and to "Indoor and Micro Electirc planes" and to "Aero Ace Mods" page 2 post#39
Not only 4 on one but flying three AAs tied together (there is a pic of it somewhere) - you take the lower wings off the three planes. Use one plane in the center and glue the top wing of it into the lower wing slots of the other two (one on each side obviously). Doesn't tend to fly so good without more fussing balence and such. BUt is sad to sound like a swarm of bees. I wonder about leaving the lower wing on the outside of the two outside planes?
Goto the forum wattflyer.com and to "Indoor and Micro Electirc planes" and to "Aero Ace Mods" page 2 post#39
#1323
ORIGINAL: micro_builder
neurotex,
just start saving up some money
neurotex,
just start saving up some money
atmospheric tests for the government?
ORIGINAL: McNeilSomeone may be thiking gas not quiet flyers. I'd try to find who is responsible and talk to them.
They're behind the times- light years behind in the laws for park fliers that are quiet
and would cause no bodily harm. Talk to them or change the sign just a tad [>:]
#1325
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Olympia,
WA
Below I've piced my latest changes and the takeoff track i made (since I can't find my car track). I decided to elliminate the spacer because I wanted to increase the width between the wheels to 1.25 inches to give greater takeoff stability. By doing that I automatically clear the planes undercarrage. I made the whole new assembly by sanding down the inside of the hot wheel wheels so that the outer rim is only 1/8" wide. There is an innern hub that is still the origional width so the wheel won't wobble on the axel. I shaped the landing strut into a "U" shape that lays on the planes underecarrage so that I could get a good taping surface. Then angleed it out and down a bit before bending the end into a short axel and then bending over the last 1/8" to hold the wheel on. Note that the hub of the wheel faces out so that I can get greater clearence in the groove of my takeoff track.
The track is 1/2" thick with 1/8' depth cut away on the outside on both sides so that the front wheels ride outside of the rased center section. Then a grove is cut down the middle for the rear wheel to ride in. the track I have at this point is 7 feet long. With the wind and rain here I have only tried to launch in the house and I don't have quite enough runway yet. Putting the track on a card table the plane comes off too slow and drops but almost gets enough speed just before it hits the floor. A little more experimenting and i think I'll have it.
The track is 1/2" thick with 1/8' depth cut away on the outside on both sides so that the front wheels ride outside of the rased center section. Then a grove is cut down the middle for the rear wheel to ride in. the track I have at this point is 7 feet long. With the wind and rain here I have only tried to launch in the house and I don't have quite enough runway yet. Putting the track on a card table the plane comes off too slow and drops but almost gets enough speed just before it hits the floor. A little more experimenting and i think I'll have it.



