Someone had to do it
First of all, I have had two of the Futaba AM radios that come in the Aquacraft Profisherman and in the SuperVee 27. They were exactly the same radio and they both glitched. It wasn't so bad in the Profisherman because it wasn't an expensive boat and it didn't have alot of expensive stuff in it.
It isn't even worth it to run your SV 27 and see if it will glitch or not. Just go ahead and get a new FM radio.
I am personally a JR man. Here is a link to the most recent radio as of the date of this post. The pro is a little more expensive.

http://www.*********.org/jr_xs3-pro.htm

But if you don't need 10 model memory the XS3 offers 4 model memory.

http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Art...ArticleID=1210

Of course there are other good radios out there like the Futaba FM radios but I am just partial to JR.

Alright, I'll bite.

The JR is fine. We have a member that runs one.

I use an older Futaba T3PDM Magnum FM I bought on ?Ebay for $39.00 and a Futaba R143 reciever w/built in failsafe.

Here's the entry level FM radio/reciever/servo combo. My son runs his setup in his 38" Hottie at over 30 mph glitch free. It's not as long on creature comforts, but don't sell it short. www.offshoreelcetronics.com sells them for $76.99 I think, too.

Here's the Airtonics MX3. Several of our members swear by this one and it has done fine, too.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LC6891&P=1

I think I'm going to give my Spektrum DX2 I use in our Mamba powered Rustler a go. Maybe this weekend. From what I've been reading, it's all about antenna routing when it comes to 2.4 ghz. success. Sure would be nice to minimoze antenna length on both the boat AND the transmitter along with no chance of anybody "stepping" on my freq.

Spektrum DX2 or DX3. Or if you already have the DX6/7, you can use that too if you don't mind the stick style radio.
The system works beautifully on the water despite the rumors. I also run in a lake that is about 10' below ground level and that might have something to do with it.

First pic is how I have the main antenna aligned up 90deg when it exits the radio box.
I did this to give the antenna as much exposure as possible. It's also wise to do this with any surface antenna. Has to do with the resonant freq and all that happy electron stuff.
You can also see how the micro antenna sits.

Next pic is the rcvr sitting in the box. The antenna is bent up 90deg inside the radio box, then exits the front of the radio box, is bent again at 90deg, then goes to the port side of the radio box, around to the stern, and connects to the micro antenna.

I posted this here also (also posted in the Spektrum SV thread), in case that one dies out.

you would think grim would coment on the problems with the radios in the boats i emailed him to ask if they have upgraded the product because of some of the problems people were having and he said there realy were not problems with the boat . and iasked if it would ever be offered as a boatno radio option. he said no the same way it comes now . it is a good boat but i wish they would take care of some of the little problems and use a better quality radio. i have been waiting to see if the product improves in timebut i keep hearing the same issues bad radio cracking seems burnt motors . im starting to think im just going to build a titan 21 with a brushles if i got to fix every thing anyway i may as well start from scratch no t o sound neg but 260.00 is alot of money if you have to throw out the radio and buy another motor just my 2cnts hope they improve the boat

If they DID offer the boat w/o a radio, it would probably save like $20.00 to $40.00 only since it IS a cheap radio to begin with. The time I've spent prepping/blueprinting this boat is not nearly the time you'll spend buildling one from scratch. I wonder what a RTR Titan runs......hmmmmm $1000.00 or better I bet. Not a fair comparison.

I can't stand it when a manufacture won't head the needs of the user. It is more than obvious that we all wanted a boat without the radio. Just look at what Steve from offshore did. He took the CEN Aquajet and made two versions. The Extreme RTR and the Extreme ARR. I bought the ARR. Go figure[sm=50_50.gif]
It won't be long and some other manufacture will see the advantage of making a competitively priced RTR brushless Mono and they will make it available in both RTR and ARR forms. It will also probably cost a LITTLE more because they will also offer it up with a better radio.

I know what you mean. While I was waiting for the epoxy coating to cure last fall, I ran my cheapo NQD hydro (wife calls it the poser Miss Bud). I could run that thing to the other end of the lake w/out any problems. And that radio is real cheap (prob $10 with the batts). Sure, it took 5 times as long to get there compared to my SV, but I could never do that w/ my stock........oh wait......"spec" radio because I kept losing the signal (and she never ran away).

However, there are those that are still running the original AM rdio w/out any problems too. Wait until we get a coronal mass ejection of like 2 or 3, then everyone will be complaining about their radios. But not those with a failsafe.

But I agree, a better stock radio. There also might be a contract invloved with using the radio for the production. We don't have, nor are we privy to all the inside intrinsics. No biggy to swap in a good, inexpensive radio. You already have to spend an extra $300-400 on packs and charger.

I understand what you are saying, but to some guys it is a biggie to hear from so many people that have had trouble with the stock radio and know that its not worth it to try it without switching it out. And they thought it was RTR. However they could still run it stock and just send it back if anything happens.

I asked aquacraft about the no radio SV27 a while ago and recieved no answer.
I would suggest that aquacraft listen to their customers and either offer the 27 with no radio or with a better quality radio. I would like one but would pull the stock radio straight away. The idea of saving $50 buying a radioless boat would make me want to get one more.

where can you buy a failsafe?

You'll have to do your own research on radios that offer failsafes.

But there are stand alone failsafe upgrades.
http://www.beartoothrc.com/

The PCM radios have failsafe built in, but I'm not sure about the PPM type radios.
You'll have to do some reading. Just do a search "RC failsafe"

I have to ask but aren't failsafes only for speed controls that are mechanically controlled using servos?

They might be. I never used mechanical speed controls. All I know is that when I'm moving at 37mph, I want my $500 back on shore safely and in one piece (my DX2 ensures this). I already have enough things in my boat bag, I don't want to carry a pool skimmer too.

Do you know of any manufacturers that sell stand alone failsafes for FE?

motorhead91, you can buy a fail safe at your local hobby shop or online.

hazelrah, I know that a fail safe can be used successfully on nitro vehicles, But I am skeptical about using them on electric models. I think it would protect you from 75% of interference problems.

I commented about the stock radio working fine, the other day. Its not. I was glitch free untill today. The boat went into a spinning frenzy and thank god it stopped and let me recover the boat before it hit something. At first I thought my radios batterys were low, so I recharged them and tryed the boat again. Same thing, almost cracked it up. Up to the house to get the buggy radio. Funny thing about it is, if I leave the switches to REV the boat just beeps, if I switch the thotal to normal it beeps once but have no trigger unless I switch the swith then it will work. Anyway it must not be compatable.

Is a 2 Ch radio good or should I get a 3. How is this one? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXNHS2**&P=0 or this one http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/futk15.html

I told you guys, its not worth the risk to keep it. Especially when you know that alot of people had trouble with the stock radio. I would say get a 3 channel, it is always nice to have a 3 channel when you need it. I use my 3 channel for reverse on my LST2. But there could be lots more reasons to have a 3rd channel.

My first let down with the boat. Customer service. I called about the radio. Not looking to return the boat, dont want a new or repaired crappy radio so I suggested I would buy a new radio... how about sending me some spare parts..anything.. a turn fin, a prop, just something to ofset this bad radio. The only offer I got was to send the radio back and IF they found something wrong with it they will repair or replace it. I said to them, well if I cracked the boat up because this radio then it cost you a lot more to replace the boat, but still nothing. They tryed to blame the problem on me. Disappointed in customer service.

No Suprise[&o]

New radio came... Futaba 3PM looks great now I need to read the 60 page instruction book... should be a week before I run the boat again. hahah

Hey, we're not supposed to read instructions, remember?

EDIT: oops, already been said

I have a DX-2 and I'm wouldering if anyone has run this receiver totally inside the boat with good results?
Dyno Don

Yeah I got mine running with a 3PM, and now I don't worry at all. One guy came along, and asked "what if the boat runs out of the range of the radio?" I told him that the pond just isn't that big. It's nice to know.

I too had a stock radio that worked so well that I wondered what all these guys were talking about. Then, on the 13th run (spooky huh?) it started acting like someone else was operating my radio. Of course there was nobody else at all around, much less anybody with an RC transmitter (my freq scanner said so).

You gotta think that it's just bad business to ignore this many complaints about exactly the same problem. I guess when the rest of the boat is so good that they have no direct competition, complacency sets in.

It would be REALLY funny if the NAMBA spec class mandated use of the stock radio with only frequency crystal changes allowed. After all, if there really is nothing wrong with the stock radio why should they see any problem?

Maybe NAMBA doesn't want to sanction a demolition derby on the water...

I got the 3PM 2 days ago. Didnt do anything with it yesterday. Today I installed the reciever and wanted to get it set up tonight for tomarrow. 2 hours and all I got was more confused. There is way to many bells and wistles for a freaking boat. I need throtal, left and right and some trims. what the hell with all this.. I almost want to send it back. Any of you guys have a easy explanation on where to set this thing.

Take a deep breath and count to ten First off all the radio should have come with the trims set to zero, which is where you want to start. First thing is to set up the steering. If you didn't take apart the servo horn then it should already be set to straight and should only need tweeking. If you did remove the servo horn, then remove the servo horn, turn on the radio and that will center the servo, then with the steering linkage connected to the rudder, connect the servo horn to the servo so that the rudder is straight as possible and you are done with that except for trimming for steering straight later. Now you will need to program the esc.
Sorry I just noticed I need to get my boy to school. To be continued. Or someone else may step in and help.