I bought 2 planes from Hanger 9 with in two weeks, it seems that the quality is becoming poor lately. Twice I had to replace the Fuses due to bad covering, and I didn't feel like re-covering it from scratch. Plus I've been noticing that they are becoming more skimpy on the glue.


Any of you noticing this? And is Horizon aware of the latest quality control?



Luftwaffe Oberst
Radio Aero Modelers Club
AMA District II
Pulaski, NY

Have you replaced the fuses on your own dollar? Or have they replaced them for you?

I replaced them, If I were to send it back I would have had to pay the SH... plus the aggrivation in finding a box to ship it back etc.

Horizon Warrenty states that it can refuse replacement defects parts at there own descresion... so I don't want to deal with it.



Luftwaffe Oberst
Radio Aero Modelers Club
AMA District II
Pulaski, NY

Did you at least call and talk to them about it before spending the bucks?

What planes were they anyway?

I have always found them pretty easy to work with, many times a phone call with a followup email with pics is all that is needed........but, I have not had to do that in a while and things do change.

Ed M.

I replaced the Hanger 9 40 J-3 Cub Fuse yesterday and the PTS Mustang Fuse 5 weeks ago. It seems that they are getting sloppy with the tail sections with the covering... forcing people to re-cover there ARF's. I don't think we should be patching up new planes out of the box?

Plus the glue was very messy... it was like they put the glue every where but where it was needed on the Cub, but that was another issue that was easily corrected.

I love Hanger 9, it just seems that they don't care, all they want to do is push them out of the factory as of late. And I'm not good at covering planes with Ultra yet. [&o]


Luftwaffe Oberst
Radio Aero Modelers Club
AMA District II
Pulaski, NY

Get a cheap kit and start covering.....you'll learn alot and not care. I need to do the same as my skills ....well...I actually have none. I recently got a Hanger 9 Pulse and I was pretty impressed with how well the wings were covered. The fuse(cockpit area) has a few wrinkles....IM sure a little heat will make thinks better.

I admire those that can create those amazing covering jobs....its an art to make it look perfect.

Hmmmmm,

Seems as if about a year ago, I was making the same comments, and was being called to task for not liking what I saw from this distributor. Luft, could this have been you?????[8D][8D][8D]

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1

No, it was Nitro-planes/Giant Scale Planes... or what ever they call themselves. I always loved Hanger 9, and still do... nice try.




So true, My wings are perfect on both planes, all I had to do is re-glue the servo mounts in the wings... THAT"S ALL! I guess the fuses are assembled in a different department. I do admitt that working with Ultra is quite tricky to learn with.


Luftwaffe Oberst
Radio Aero Modelers Club
AMA District II
Pulaski, NY

it's not just hanger 9. a lot of them have gone down in quality. great planes was one my favorites but they too are getting sloppy. a buddy of mine just bought a new name brand arf and there was a warning paper notification inside the box stating that it was highly recommended to re-glue all the glue joints.????.......what the heck are we paying for??

When you say bad covering, what exactly is bad about it? I know it's frustrating to see wrinkled covering on a brand new plane but it's not the end of the world. I just got a brand new Great Planes Venus .40. Some of the Monokote was wrinkled so bad that I was almost ready to pack it back up and return it. I sat down with the covering iron and heat gun though, took my time and now the covering looks as good or maybe even better than I could do myself. With the climate changes these things go through on their trip form Asia to the US, storage, etc., it's amazing any covering stays on at all. I do agree that there is room for improvement though.

I also don't feel ARF's are always glued well. I've had glue joints pop loose and firewalls come out.

Sometimes I get frustrated but I wonder if I'm just Getting spoiled. Think about it, somebody is assembling and covering an airplane then shipping it half way around the world and I can buy it dirt cheap, sometimes for less than $100. I may have to do a little work now and then. I'm definitely not excusing poor quality control though.

I do think that alot of these planes are being built more of an "assembly line" production than years past. I have read that some factorys are shrinking the covering in furnaces, not with individuals using irons and hand tools. I also do think the more expensive planes are still mostly built by hand and it shows. Lets face it Hanger 9 sells alot of very resonably if not cheap planes and if it takes some extra work from me to keep the price down I don't mind it. If I decide I want a higher priced better built plane I know where I can get them too.

The American public puts great demands on cheap foreign labor in general. Maybe they are just too busy slamming out ARF's at your price to put much into them. They are worried about how to buy food. To do that, they must crank out a bazillion ARF's a day to buy a crust of bread.

I'm speaking of the workers here, not the factory owners and the middlemen.

Just a thought,
Oly

Most of you have a good point. My covering on my tail had creases and was loose. I applied the Iron and heat gun, and it didn't look good at all, then no matter what I did the covering pulled away from the edges... even after I did all I could to keep the heat away from the edges!

Last night I went to LHS and bought a Heat Glove, maybe that will help if I run into that problem again... I can block the heat in certain areas, or hold the covering on the corners.

The last time I ordered a replacement part, the part was perfect. Hmmmm, why couldn't they have done that to begin with? [&:]

Luftwaffe Oberst
Radio Aero Modelers Club
AMA District II
Pulaski, NY