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NEWBIE DOING A ROLL

Old 04-07-2007, 12:29 PM
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cAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO DO A ROLL WITH MY mUSTANG WITHOUT LOSING ALLTITUDE?? I'M PRETTY NEW TO TRYING THIS SORT OF STUFF.
Old 04-07-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default RE: NEWBIE DOING A ROLL

1. start high enough and fast enough.
2. try "pushing" while inverted.

When you have that figured out, try giving "up rudder" while in knife edge.

Work on it.
Old 04-07-2007, 01:08 PM
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Hes right, give down elevator while inverted. Although it might be a poor habit to start, you can also go into a very shallow climb immediately prior to the roll. Once you get the basic technique down you can also try using rudder during your roll. For example rolling left you would give right rudder, down elevator and then left rudder in that order.

Can I assume since you are a beginner and flying a mustang that its one of the pts mustangs?
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You might want to input a small amount of up elevator before commencing the roll, then down elevator when you're inverted. When you feel ready for it, add rudder, as perttime suggested. For instance, if you roll to the right, you give the opposite (that is, left) rudder for the first quarter of the roll, and then, after 180 degrees, you add right rudder. So, for a roll to the right: first push your sticks in opposite directions, then both sticks to the right.
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OK, Gringo Flyer, you beat me to it.
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Dont you hate it when that happens[:@]
Old 04-07-2007, 01:52 PM
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YES GRINGO FLYER IT IS A PTS MUSTANG WITHOUT THE SPEED BRAKE. i HAVE SOLOED ON HIGH WING TRAINERS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND NOW i'M FLYING MY mUSTANG PTS WITHOUT SPEED BRAKES. THANKS FOR EVERYONES ADVICE
Old 04-07-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default RE: NEWBIE DOING A ROLL

If you are ready, you may also think about removing the wing droops.
That will help greatly during inverted flight. Just keep in mind that you will
not be able to fly as slow as before during landing.
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Default RE: NEWBIE DOING A ROLL

I have never flown the pts mustang so I really cant comment on it. However, many trainer and 2nd plane type models will tend to loose altitude inverted bc of certain features that help them fly straight and level. So if you can master a nice level roll in your mustang you will be a step ahead when you move on to a more aerobatic plane.
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Default RE: NEWBIE DOING A ROLL

Your plane is trimmed for upright level flight so it has to lose pitch angle and altitude when inverted in the roll. you should do a roll in a trainer or a warbird the same way it is done in a full scale plane, with the exception of the competition acro planes, Extra, CAP, etc., and the same way I taught them in the T-37 many years ago.

1. Raise the nose 20-30 degrees.
2. Release all the back pressure-release the elevator stick.
3. Put in full aileron control without adding and elevator. When I teach people to do their first aileron roll, I have them release the stick so it can spring back to neutral, then take a finger and push on the side of the stick to get full aileron.
4. The plane will be about level when inverted. Keep rolling.
5. When the plane gets back to wing level upright flight, release the aileron.
6. Use up elevator to bring the nose back up to level flight.

You should do the aileron roll "by the numbers." Up, release, roll, release, up, release. If you try to mix the controls, you'll end up with a big barrel roll and probably very nose down.

I do a basic acro maneuver every month in my R/C Report column and have been since December 2000. I think I'm on my 3rd time around on some maneuvers. Subscriptions are only $19 per year and back issues are available. [link=http://www.rcreport.ws]R/C Report Magazine[/link]
Old 04-08-2007, 09:08 AM
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Sounds good, i'll give her a try as soon sa the wind dies down around here.I'm very grateful for the advice.

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