Hi there

Im new to this forum so HELLO and please be gentle. I have hpi mt2 at the moment and im about to sell it. Im thinking of getting a 1/8 scale buggy but a fast one and one that will last me. My mt2 lasted me 5 years (with 3 year break). So i need to get something decent that wont break after 4 runs (heavy duty diffs etc) My budget is around &pound;300. Thanks in advance<br type="_moz" />

hey um i got 2 for ur budget um firstly the lrp s8 rebel bx as i just got one and is going very well and the hpi trophy buggy

Hi, welcome to RCU!

For the money you cannot go wrong with one of these. http://www.apexmodels.com/gbu0-prodshow/114000010.html

They are based on the Hyper 7 series of buggies by Hobao (OFNA in the US). In other words, they are licensed copies produced in China and distributed by Ansmann, a German company. I used to own a Hyper 7 myself, and was more than satisfied with it. They are strong as tanks and parts and upgrades are plentiful. It's the right car for the right money.

With the money you have left over, buy a 6v receiver pack so you don't have to use AA batteries to power the receiver and servos. This should be your first upgrade, it makes a huge difference to the control of the car.

Check out the new KYOSHO line up of 1/8 scale buggies. Tough has nails.

FOXY ur off chopps there utter plastic crap

The Ansman is also a great buggy, I was driving one last weekend at a dirt jump contest (BMX((another one of my hobbies)) and it took a pounding.

Care to elaborate why you have this opinion? I have been up close and personal with a number of Ansmann products and been nothing less than impressed every time. Can it compare to a Mugen or an Xray? Of course not, but that's why its half the price for an RTR that the others are for rollers.

If you think the Hyper 7 PBS is plastic crap, you're sorely misguided. The Virus and Hyper 7 are all but identical.

This is equally good, but has c-hub suspension instead of PBS if I remember correctly, but once again, they are basically the same car...

http://www.apexmodels.com/gbu0-prodshow/HBM7-TQ28.html

I would take the Virus over this because of the 2.4Ghz radio and the PBS suspension.

yeah there is to much plastic parts small fuel tank cheap radio set "6kg" servos that will break easily small heat sink which will have really hot running temp

and that second link is a much better buggy all over

Hm...ok, you like the second one better. Let's compare...

Chassis, fuel tank and plastic parts are all exactly the same (the Virus is a near identical copy of the Hyper 7).
The servos will be exactly the same.
The radio with the HoBoa car is not as good as the one with the Virus. The Ansmann radios are excellent 2.4Ghz units, one of the best things about the cars.
Can't comment on the engine, as I know nothing about the .28 that comes with the Hobao, but who keeps the original engine for long anyway? It will do for starters, and I highly doubt its worse than the .28 in the Hobao.
Then there's the PBS suspension on the virus, which some people like and some poeple don't.

The Virus is better, I promise, not by much, the radio tips the scales. Ansmann plastics are awesomely hard and durable.

Im so confused at the moment, i was looking at the virus before also at thehong nor x1 crt which seems to identical to other buggys. I need alot of power with bigheat sink. I have the power pack (sealed 4x1,2v) as the battery rack is useless, nearly killed few people in the park when one of the batteries went loose going back to my new car, i really like something that would last me, something with hardened diffs etc. Please provide me some links and opinions this is veryuseful. The virus is no1 along with hyper 7 at the moment.

ps what do you think about thishttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hong-Nor-X1X-C...#ht_2583wt_905<br type="_moz" />

firstly, all 1/8th buggies are 'basically' the same, the chassis layouts, the drivetrain, etc, but these particular 2 are almost identical, even sharing the majority of parts.

There is not really anything else inside your budget that is worth having. There are cheaper cars that will be disappointing, and there are better cars that are more expensive. Even if you raised the budget another 50 pounds, these would still be the best choices, and I would say spend the extra money on servos/engine/whatever.

You should not have a problem with the diffs on any of these cars. Most 1/8th buggies need no upgrades as such. You can upgrade some of the plastic and metal parts to carbon fiber, but you would not do that unless you were racing, and you would not race with a 300 quid RTR. See what I'm saying? Get a Virus or a Hyper 7, both are great for the money, there is no need to look further for the kind of money you are talking about. When you have SIX hundred pounds to spend, we can talk again

As lez mentioned, the Kyosho cars are also very good for the money...All three of these cars will serve you well. I would lean away from the Hobao, only because it does not come with a 2.4Ghz radio, which you should consider essential.

http://www.apexmodels.com/gbu0-prodshow/31295T2.html

The Hong Nor X1CRT is also a good car, but once again, no 2.4Ghz radio.

Ok i will go for virus and here are the options<div></div><div>http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=A....c0.m270.l1313</div><div></div><div>which one is the best value for money?

Ps i want a biiiig engine so the big block is the best option? or is it just better to get one without engine and get something better?</div>

A really good engine will cost twice as much as you pay for the car. Once again, you need to specify a budget so we can make some suggestions. I could say go ahead and put a $600 Italian engine in there, and then you would need to consider a few upgrades.

You really need to think objectively about what you want to do with it. If mad speed is what you want, get te Virus and the 30 pound brushless conversion set, and put a crazy electric brushless setup in it, but then you will need batteries, chargers, etc. Same with engines though. All the really good engines are sealed (no pull starts, etc), so you would then need a starter box and batteries for the starter box, and a charger for the batteries, etc etc.

As the old saying goes...Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?

There are some good budget engines with pullstarts for sensible money, so how much do you want to spend?

My friend just managed to get a buggy for free of someone, it has a SH engine 25 4,6 and its crazy fast are theyexpensive?
Edit: I've checked and they are not that expensive. I need to get some 46 engine i think.

No, they are very reasonable. SH is known for their good budget engines.

What would you recommend when it comes to engine?
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In the same boat as the OP. Ihave a local shop near me that sells the Hobao range so will likely go with them as Ican always get advise from them If Ibought it from there, rather than get Annsmann which they dont sell and try for help

Is there a chance to change body of 1/8 scale buggy to a lets say a savage one? and what engine would you choose betwen the three (hobao, kyosho, ansmann)??

No, you can't use a truck body on a buggy, if you want a truck body, get a truggy instead of a buggy. Also, none of these companies you mention make engines, they rebadge other companies engines.

For good cheap engines, look at SH engines, GO engines, STS (are they still around?). How much do you want to spend?

Always go with what you can get locally. The Hobao cars are very good and well supported in the hobby generally, buy with confidence.

Ok so only one left to choose:

<a href="http://www.modelsport.co.uk/ansmann-racing-virus-28-big-block-rtr-buggy/rc-car-products/39494">http://www.modelsport.co.uk/ansmann-...products/39494
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or

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hobao-hy...products/24519

i find the ansmann better when it comes to suspension, radio but hyper 7 seems to have better engine (same class i think)

what would you choose?<br type="_moz" />

A well set up .21 will blow away any .28 in top speed and it will also run longer as the fuel econamy is better, .21 engines run much higher RPM's which + higher speeds, I guess thats why most real race engines are .21's.
We have had people come to our track with the Hoboa hyper 7's and to be honest not one of them has survived the day, the plastic is thick,yes, but it is also brittle and breaks to easy. A friend has got a Ansman VIRUS and it rips, tough like the KYOSHO buggies just a tad heavy but its burly.
Quick question for FOXY, dont KYOSHO make there own engines??? I always thought they did. If not, who is it that makes them??? I like to race every now and then and beleave it or not actually like the GX.21, although I have modded it to kingdom come, it'll blow a E-revo with brushless power away no problems be it top speed or pure acceleration. Any thoughts??? I also drive with an RB C6 buggy engine but it will not out run my GX.21 and drinks to much fuel. Average run time from my GX is around 16 minutes and on the same track with the RB C6 around the 12 minute mark.

This evening I am going to be racing my MP7.5 MK3 against the MP7.5 ve(S3, 11.1Volt), guess who is going to get there ass kicked.