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i have two of those boost bottle thing that i got for christmas they look cool and all but do the work and how do i go about installing it it had no instructions for it so i have no clue thanks everyone for help in advance
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they are a bit difficult to install. you can mount the bottle anywhere on the vehicle, perferrably close to the engine. You will need to drill and then tap with a a machine tap, a hole in the side of the carb. Make sure the carb is off when doing this to prevent metal shavings from going inside the engine. then, screw in the nozzle that came with the bottle, make sure you use thread lock, and gasket sealent around the edges to prevent air leaks.
Since it was a christmas preasent, I wont praise or knock it - but I would recommend you do a search about boost bottles here at RCU and read up on them before installing it.
Since it was a christmas preasent, I wont praise or knock it - but I would recommend you do a search about boost bottles here at RCU and read up on them before installing it.
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Christmas present or not, I'll knock it.. Boost bottles are nothing more than a very clever way of separating people from their money. On smaller engines, like say a .12 or a .15, yeah, they can add some punch. But on bigger engines, anything .21 and up, IMHO they throw off the balance of the carb and make them too difficult to tune. A kid at my track has 3!!!!! on his Hyper .21.. He consistently loses to stock Hot Bodies engines =)
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I totally disagree with your assesment nitro, the bottles work for those who dont expect NOS.
Installation
The kit should have a new hollow bar bolt w/ nipple, a small jig and drill bit, a bottle, piece of hard fuel tubing and a mounting bracket for the bottle.
1. Before removing the carb, make note of the carbs orientation to the engine, you'll need to know this later.
2. remove carb and bar bolt.
3. Using the jig and drill bit supplied, you need to drill a hole in the carb base that once installed, will align with the new hollow bar bolt orifice. Did you take notes (#1)?
4. CLEAN carb, be sure not to leave any shavings.
5. Install carb with the new hollow bar bolt, check your work by tempararily installing the fuel tubing, you shoud be able to blow thru the tube and hear it inside the carb, if it checks out, install linkages.
6. Next, determine where you want the bottle, the shorter the hard fuel line, the better. Also make sure it wont interfer with anything like linkages, moving parts, or general maint and mount the bottle.
7. Route the hard fuel tubing and secure the ends with zip ties.
Thats it, wont take 30 minutes.
Are they a worth the upgrade?
Thats debatable but IMO, they do work. I found the stock bottles to small to be very effective so I use spent co2 cartridge from a pellet gun. I drill and tap them for a straight nipple, clean it up making sure no shavings are still trap'd inside, then install the nipple with sealant (dont get sloppy, as to have globs of sealant inside the bottle that could be jar'd lose).
Ace has some sweet brackets (hardware section) for mounting a custom bottle.
What to expect from a bottle?
Many think its a mini NOS system, in fact, the bottle isn't a power additive at all, its a power manager.
The bottle will smooth out most power spikes by spreading your existing power spikes over a larger rpm band. I find Off road engines responde nicely to my boost bottles.
How do they work?
Basically they increase plenum volume between the carb and valve.
The incoming air gets flowing, then the valve slams shut, momentarily creating positive pressure below the carb, this pressure is stored in the bottle till the next valve cycle, when the valve opens, it creates a negitive pressure in the plenum which releases the stored pressure, hence the name -boost bottle.
A boost bottle doesnt make tuning any harder when properly installed.
Due to the added "possible" airleaks" , boost bottles need to be check'd often (i check mine monthly) to avoid tuning nitemares.
I have a Pico Comp w factory boost. I can definitely tell a difference in how the engine reacts with it on versa off, its much smoother with it on.
I saw a very noticable improvement when I bypassed the stock chamber and used my own bottle.
Dont expect a NOS system, but if your engine is touchy (suddenly jumps 5000 rpms breaking the tires lose) when accellerating, a bottle is the ticket IMO.
Installation
The kit should have a new hollow bar bolt w/ nipple, a small jig and drill bit, a bottle, piece of hard fuel tubing and a mounting bracket for the bottle.
1. Before removing the carb, make note of the carbs orientation to the engine, you'll need to know this later.
2. remove carb and bar bolt.
3. Using the jig and drill bit supplied, you need to drill a hole in the carb base that once installed, will align with the new hollow bar bolt orifice. Did you take notes (#1)?
4. CLEAN carb, be sure not to leave any shavings.
5. Install carb with the new hollow bar bolt, check your work by tempararily installing the fuel tubing, you shoud be able to blow thru the tube and hear it inside the carb, if it checks out, install linkages.
6. Next, determine where you want the bottle, the shorter the hard fuel line, the better. Also make sure it wont interfer with anything like linkages, moving parts, or general maint and mount the bottle.
7. Route the hard fuel tubing and secure the ends with zip ties.
Thats it, wont take 30 minutes.
Are they a worth the upgrade?
Thats debatable but IMO, they do work. I found the stock bottles to small to be very effective so I use spent co2 cartridge from a pellet gun. I drill and tap them for a straight nipple, clean it up making sure no shavings are still trap'd inside, then install the nipple with sealant (dont get sloppy, as to have globs of sealant inside the bottle that could be jar'd lose).
Ace has some sweet brackets (hardware section) for mounting a custom bottle.
What to expect from a bottle?
Many think its a mini NOS system, in fact, the bottle isn't a power additive at all, its a power manager.
The bottle will smooth out most power spikes by spreading your existing power spikes over a larger rpm band. I find Off road engines responde nicely to my boost bottles.
How do they work?
Basically they increase plenum volume between the carb and valve.
The incoming air gets flowing, then the valve slams shut, momentarily creating positive pressure below the carb, this pressure is stored in the bottle till the next valve cycle, when the valve opens, it creates a negitive pressure in the plenum which releases the stored pressure, hence the name -boost bottle.
A boost bottle doesnt make tuning any harder when properly installed.
Due to the added "possible" airleaks" , boost bottles need to be check'd often (i check mine monthly) to avoid tuning nitemares.
I have a Pico Comp w factory boost. I can definitely tell a difference in how the engine reacts with it on versa off, its much smoother with it on.
I saw a very noticable improvement when I bypassed the stock chamber and used my own bottle.
Dont expect a NOS system, but if your engine is touchy (suddenly jumps 5000 rpms breaking the tires lose) when accellerating, a bottle is the ticket IMO.
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with the boost of it and making your engine run smoother is nice and all but drilling your carb and other stuff just seems like work and if i were to mess it up a little i dont really want to spend more money and get a new carb if i were to screw it up
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What boost bottle kit doesnt include instructions or a jig and bit?
Give it back to who ever gave it to you and explain that its missing some important stuff without sounding ungrateful, maybe they could get a refund or replacement for you.
Give it back to who ever gave it to you and explain that its missing some important stuff without sounding ungrateful, maybe they could get a refund or replacement for you.
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Im familiar with MIP's kit. Im not familiar with GS bottles but
they are known for making decent stuff, seems odd they dont include
the installation jig and bit like MIP does.
Note to self, don't reccommend GS Boost Bottle kits.
they are known for making decent stuff, seems odd they dont include
the installation jig and bit like MIP does.
Note to self, don't reccommend GS Boost Bottle kits.
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$9., that is pretty cheap. I'm sure I paid more than $25 for my MIP kit I bought 4 years ago for my maxx. I've since tossed the lil' bottle in the parts bin and started making my own bottles (kits) so I hang on to the bit and jig to simplify future installations.
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From: knoxville, TN
for 9$ it cam with the bottle pressure nipple and bottle the only thing i need to do is mount it and drill which i think i can do it but dont want to risk it



