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scale only 4 me 10-08-2005 08:23 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Don't bother,,, the stocks are fine otherwise get a set of Craddock brake disks
they work great as well

adrianderekluna 10-09-2005 02:14 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
the PBS vs. traditional knuckles are a bit thick and slow on the turning but are nearly unbreakable. this setup is synonymous to the mugen.

if your going to get the hyper, wait a bit for this:

http://www.ofna.com/hyper8.html
http://www.ofna.com/movs/hyper8.mov
http://www.ofna.com/movs/

smart design by coleman. sideways steering servo ensures zero rub on servo body, better balance and lower center of G. even the gas tank is thought out for 20-30 minute A-mains. i saw my pitman reaching in looking for the fuel lid. lost about 5 seconds of time on that with the traditional tank design. had to pit 3 times. keep that in mind.

the hyper, when racing or bashing, is sturdy and hardly ever breaks. the kyosho on the other hand unless upgraded with $200 worth of fioroni or after market components, is built to be light for racing. the shock towers will bend. if you don't get the sp1-2 kits, the chassis will bend as well.

when test driving the 9.5 pro i found the kit heavy, and slow on turning. even with some serious tow out on the front with a 200oz steering servo. i wasn't impressed. some footage of the 9.5 in the middle. first orange car is a kyosho kanai 1. http://www.unethkl.com/rctrack/Aliso9.wmv the 9.5 comes with the force .25 engine i believe. that engine weighs about twice that of the C5 rody seen on the kyosho. weight is key when jumping, going into turns and coming out of turns. momentum will put push your car to the outside of the track on turns. look how tight colemans kit turns.

the kyosho is great for serious racing. by serious i mean you plan on spending upwards of $2000 for your kit (sp2), servos (aitronics 94358, or new hitech titanium series, 333oz.), radio (mx3 and up), modified engine and pipe (WS7 II, C5 BB or nova rosi p5 modified - 086 pipe or jammin), starter box and accessories. the kit components are refined, well thought out and superbly machined. you can see the difference in sensitivity between kits on the track. the kyosho takes a bit longer to learn to control than other kits. (very sensitive).

note: keep in mind that coleman normally uses torsion diffs front, center and rear on his prototypes. performance on his buggies out of the turns will be more aggresive than the average stock or pro kit.

if you go with the hyper, be sure to get the PCR pro kit. the upgrades are worth it. as soon as this one comes out i will buy one and run both kyosho and ofna, and see what's up.

everspeed 10-09-2005 06:21 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Oh boy.

EtnieSk8r3000 10-09-2005 08:36 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
I ordered the PBS two day ago.And i dont like the hyper 8 it looks stupid.i will like it when i see what it has on it.

adrianderekluna 10-09-2005 11:46 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
which PBS kit are you refering to?

mugen mbx 5, 9.5, lx, or hyper?

EtnieSk8r3000 10-09-2005 01:50 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
The Hyper 7 PBS RTR.

studysession 10-09-2005 01:56 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Rule of thumb is most RC's that come with servo's have cheap servo's. I have the PBS and love it. I have converted mine to electric though. Still my favorate out of all my RC's I have.

Hope that helps.

Cheers -


ORIGINAL: EtnieSk8r3000

I am thinking about buying the PCR or the PBS but i don't no.I like the PCR but i heard that the PCR has weak servos.I have not looked up alot about the PBS.Whats the better Package between them?I don't care if i have to buy new servos.If the PCR did not have weak servos which one would you go for and why?thxs cya

EtnieSk8r3000 10-09-2005 01:56 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
What servos should I get. I want cheap ones and good ones.Do i have to get a new throttle/break servo? Or should I just by a new radio that comes with 1 or 2 servos?

motoman931172 10-09-2005 01:58 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
a good throttle brake servo for an 1/8 scale - i have this in my mugen, hs645mg

studysession 10-09-2005 02:00 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
I usually get the JR Racing metal gear high torque servo's. Get them off EBay for around $35 or so including shipping. They are not the best but work well for the price IMO.

Here is my Hyper 7 PBS:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=467

EtnieSk8r3000 10-09-2005 05:18 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
What steering servo should i get?some where around 120?

Engrose 10-09-2005 05:34 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Futaba s3305 - 38$
JR z650m - 50$
Hitec 5645 - 46$


Foxy 10-10-2005 02:58 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Airtronics 94358z, $95 best steering servo there is. For other info, check out the other current thread on servos named 'servo help'.

Hoese37 10-10-2005 04:35 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
ya the pbs version just uses the Pivot Ball Suspension instead of c hubs, whitch really improves turning and handling

Foxy 10-10-2005 05:14 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Actually, the PCR also has PBS suspension. Also, The advantage of PBS is the extra on-car adjustability and the strength, the c-hubs actually give you more steering.

scale only 4 me 10-10-2005 07:40 AM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 


ORIGINAL: Hoese37

ya the pbs version just uses the Pivot Ball Suspension instead of c hubs, whitch really improves turning and handling
????
If this was the case why don't the Ofna Team guys ever run the PBS,,,they all run the C-hub

crapzilla18 10-10-2005 02:15 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
hey, im going to buy a pro buggy soon, and im undecided between the jammin x1 cr pro, or the hyper 7 pcr pro, help would be appreciated :D

MEANDMYRC 10-10-2005 02:26 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Well in my book there are 3 very very good cars that are truely race worthy and as follows 777 Special 1 Jammin or the XB8, this is what I see winning week after week, Have a good time shopping and enjoy what ever you decide.

Holly

studysession 10-10-2005 03:11 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
I would go with the Hyper - But that's just me. Cheers -

crapzilla18 10-10-2005 04:40 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
but which hyper, th pro, the pcr pro, which one>?

studysession 10-10-2005 05:12 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Get something that is within your budget - I have the PBS and I am happy with it.

But if you can afford to go with the Pro then go for it.

EtnieSk8r3000 10-10-2005 05:26 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Is Blue Thunder a good fuel? My friend at school says it sucks.What kind of Nitro should I use? Something good.Can you use two kinds of Nitro like use BluThur.Then later use some other kind?

crapzilla18 10-10-2005 06:12 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
i really have a pretty decent budget where i can afford a pro kit, but im stuck between the jammin pro or the hyper 7 pcr pro

everspeed 10-10-2005 06:30 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
Drop the idea of the PCR pro, and get the PRO. The PCR Pro only gives more versatility in that you can use PBS or C-Hub suspension. Alot of people are saying that current Hypers can't compete in today's racing. Click the link below, and read how many tittles are still being won with H7's, not H8's. (Not knocking the H8.)

[link=http://ofna.com/news.html]Ofna racing news[/link]

crapzilla18 10-10-2005 06:35 PM

RE: Which Hyper 7
 
well, out of the PRO and Jammin, which would you suggest


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