I have the electric version of the winner sport, and ideas where to get parts?

Long time no see! been busy trying to set up a business, an rc webshop actually http://www.umo.no a work still in process..
Sounds strange that the smartech tornado can reach 65mph but i dont know. my traxxas jato is sick fast and does 65+ mph according to traxxas. My smt winner sport is retired now, its just sitting on the shelf all good to go but i know that it wont hold up long with the OS engine. im just tired of spending money on spare parts for it.

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Hey Weinersport - thought you might like to see your engine in action!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9fGAZzcB4

Zeen, never heard of an electric version of the Winner Sport... Sorry. Got pictures?

Yup i do, i got this 2 or 3 years ago when i got back into the hobby

Wow, that's cool! I see a few chassis differences, but I wonder how hard it would be to convert to electric? I can't see spending over $100 on a carb for my Winner Sport (it needs one; I got one with no low speed needle, only high speed and idle needles, so it likes to stall when hitting the brakes hard.)

Where did you get this, and how much did you pay? The WS I got was around $220 shipped, about two years ago.

How well does it work?

Ya, this is how i got it was elec, got it about 2 or 3 years ago from e-bay, came from California to here in Canada, think it was only 160$ something? it worked great, but the radio system was kinda cheese, but really other then that it was very quick and fun, pretty tuff to, onyl need a few parts for it

A $100 for a carb!?!?!?!? Where are you buying?!!?!? What engine do you have? If I have an extra carb, I will send it to you for $15 shipped. All of mine have have high and low needles.

Hey Doc... I was at a local (well, kinda local; within 30 miles), and they had this OS carb that looked like the right one for my stock .15, but the price was around $100, from what I recall... No way I was paying that much!
I have the blue, round cylinder head Smartech motor. Original, a gallon though it.

Do you have a carb for that? I seemed to have been ripped off... Even my instructions show a low speed needle in the throttle linkage shaft, but the buggy I have does not have this. It has been a compromise at best for performance, working best only at top end...

pull the carb off and measure the bottom of the venturi opening, and I will measure mine. I have the .15 CXP, it has the black flat cooling head, but I think the engine blocks are the same, so mine should work. I can send you a pic of what it looks like.

The hobby store was more into aircraft, but they sold parts at full retail by the sound of it... Retail I have found them online for the same, but eBay much less... (.15 harder to find, looking to retrofit to a .18 if possible)

I have to do some research when I get time to look at the buggy again... But when I do, I will post my measurements. I know exactly the engine you have with the black head, as many others seem to have gotten that one as well...
If your carb will fit, I may buy it, unless I find a good deal on an OS on eBay, since I hear they are a much superior product...
Do you even have your Smartech anymore? Just curious... Pretty sure you got a better machine since, right?

I sold my smartech buggies, but I kept the 2 of the smartech engines that I had. Even though they are cheap chinese engines, I found them to idle forever and hold an awesome tune! I use one of them in my nitro evader as a winter beater engine. The other engine is still a spare engine I have laying around.

The engine in this vid is the smartech one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9fGAZzcB4

Also, you said your engine stalls when you hit the brakes. Pull the air filter off the engine and look into the barrel (when the engine isn't running, and the servos and controller are turned on) and hit the brakes on the controller. Watch to make sure that the barrel isn't closing more when you hit the brakes, if it is, you need to open up your idle screw some more. It might fix your stalling problem.

Here's a pic of all my current RC toys. A long way from my smartech days....

Actually, I did mess with the idle screw, but in order to keep it running when braking hard, I have to have the idle way up, too high for the clutch. It wants to engage at anything much higher than idle. I messed with a whole lot of settings, but nothing seems to work. Not having a low speed is a great nuisance... I remember tuning my antique snowmobiles in Canada: They ran Tillotson carburetors, and had a high and low speed needle. I couldn't imagine tuing a carb with no low speed needle on the snowmobile, so I can understand why this small scale version is such a pain!
I wonder how many others got the carb without the low speed adjustment?

Also, I am using Kyosho clutch shoes (aluminum). I am thinking if I have to, I can go back to the nylon shoes, since it seems to run best with those, probably because it gave me a higher stall speed with the lighter shoes... Mind you, if I switch back, I will be working backwards... I need to move FORWARD, so that means a new carb! haha

Love your Ford truggy...

What is the best machine you have for speed and jumping? I like the all terrain advantage of the trucks... Still wishing I had my friend's Monster GT! That thing was the sweetest machine I ever ran...

So any ideas where some parts are located? found a few on ebay.. but thats about it

Well, for speed and jumping on a track I would take my Jammin X1 CRT, that's on the back right. Nothing will beat that. For speed and jumping in a back yard or rough area, I would take the Monster GT cuz it gets you some extra ground clearance.

There is an easy solution to your clutch problem. Take the clutch spring out, cut of the loop at one end PLUS 2-3 spring windings. Then take the loop that is left, and loop it into the last 2 windings (where you just cut off). Basically, make the spring shorter, thus the tension will be tighter, and you will get later engagement at higher RPMs. See if that helps.

I thought of that one, but didn't want to mess with the spring, in case I got bad results out of the deal... I don't have a spare. When the original spring broke, I had to get shoes and spring together as a set.
Hey, is any of this stuff still available online?

Zeen, eBay is where most of us got our spare parts... If you look back through earlier messages here, you will see all the vendors that sold parts to us, and sometimes read comments on what people thought of them... One vendor I bought from often was in Asia, but they shipped fast and were very reliable to me.

its getting difficult to find parts for these. that's why I got rid of mine. ebay is about it.

Any hobby store should have springs, so they are easy to find.

And yea, you can get clutches and springs online.

Ahh, ok i think i found one, rc world international. they seem to have what i need

You mean the Smartech used springs that would work from other cars??? COOL!
I tried matching up shoes one time at a hobby store (this one had a lot, but even further away) and had no luck finding shoes that would work... Even the Kyoshus I bought needed some work to make them fit... (bought online). I had to drill new holes because the pattern did not match my bell!

yea, they are standard small block shoes. most any brand should fit. alot of people use these nylon ones:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXDSZ5&P=ML

Nice video doc! How`s my old smt engine doing these days? sounded good on the vid

yup! still purrs like a kitten! No problems!

Well i found out i have a VH-36 Electric buggy and... I might as well throw the freaking thing out...found this site..http://www.ecvv.com/product/vp166985...oad-Buggy.html

and i found parts on ebay with some searching on google and all I got was ebay Germany or some crap? Oh the parts were all on there "Victory Hawk VH-36 buggy parts!" But that was the only english they had on their page... obviously i could not make sense of any of it and dont even wanna think about them shipping to Canada.. and i found 2 for sale on ebay.. FOR 344$!!!!!!!! I PAID 170$ FOR MINE! what a rip off.. was kinda hoping to get this buggy back up and going since it was the first RC vehicle that got me into this hobby