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The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
10-12-2008 | 09:38 PM
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The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
Im looking for discussion from those who own/owned both electric and nitro.
My question is, when you got your electric did you start using and paying less attention to your nitro?
I have a savage and am considering getting an electric since it might be nice when the savage is out of service (so i hear nitros are out of service a lot more than electrics and mine has been out of service 80% of the past 3 months iv owned it, parts on order).
Im asking this because i dont want my savage to just lie about and never get used if i get an electric. Yes i know everyone has different experiences, im just wondering how much electrics generally displace nitro's when it comes to a hobby-ist's time.
Alternatively, im considering getting a 1/16th scale nitro.
My question is, when you got your electric did you start using and paying less attention to your nitro?
I have a savage and am considering getting an electric since it might be nice when the savage is out of service (so i hear nitros are out of service a lot more than electrics and mine has been out of service 80% of the past 3 months iv owned it, parts on order).
Im asking this because i dont want my savage to just lie about and never get used if i get an electric. Yes i know everyone has different experiences, im just wondering how much electrics generally displace nitro's when it comes to a hobby-ist's time.
Alternatively, im considering getting a 1/16th scale nitro.
10-12-2008 | 09:43 PM
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I don't really make a fuss about what is powering the car. I enjoy electrics, nitros, and gassers. There are tons of great vehicles in each category. I don't see why we have to discuss this every day.
10-12-2008 | 09:46 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
Im not, im wondering if electrics generally displace nitros. I love my savage and if getting an electric usually means staying electric id rather stay nitro.
10-12-2008 | 09:47 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
I liked Nitro for years, but electric has won my heart. I'm not the kind of guys who likes to fiddle around too much, just drive, with lots of power, and electric has suited me well.
I converted my Monster GT to electric. lol That sums up my thinking, but nitro has such a great awe factor... I love having people watch me drive on the beach and stuff.
I converted my Monster GT to electric. lol That sums up my thinking, but nitro has such a great awe factor... I love having people watch me drive on the beach and stuff.
10-12-2008 | 10:29 PM
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Whether or not it displaces others is really up to the person. Like I said I own tons of all of them and will continue to buy them probably.
10-13-2008 | 06:56 AM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
Had a Nitro RS4 for less then a month sold it for a HPI Sprint 2. and have never looked back ...
Electrics have the Plug and play advantage and are not phased as much by factors such as tempreture and weather... or countless times where the damned thing just wouldnt start...
It Depends on what RC Sport you do as to which one you like Better..
Rock Crawling would be rather expensive with a Nitro...
Electrics have the Plug and play advantage and are not phased as much by factors such as tempreture and weather... or countless times where the damned thing just wouldnt start...
It Depends on what RC Sport you do as to which one you like Better..
Rock Crawling would be rather expensive with a Nitro...
10-13-2008 | 10:48 AM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
Thats what i was afraid of, electric may be better, but i want to stick with nitros at all costs, lol the polls are completely even though, 4,4,4.
10-13-2008 | 11:07 AM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
just something to think about, an electric car in a crash isnt stronger than a nitro... so if the reason your car is out of service is for chassis parts then changing the power source wont help. However as a power source, electric is 10 times more reliable haha. just charge and go. ( i still dont want an electric though )
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10-13-2008 | 02:39 PM
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I have had a good amount of both..for a while i was like most nitro owners thinking that nitro was the only way to go...BUT, I have since then gone back to electrics and noticed a few things..Electrics can have more torque, and overall power if your willing to spend the money. They dont require tuning on a month to month basis, they arent really effected by weather, ZERO fuel costs, no starter boxes or glow starters, and 1/4 of the mess after a good race/bash..
I have sold all my nitro cars/equipment and now its either 1/5 scale 2 stroke or electric
I have sold all my nitro cars/equipment and now its either 1/5 scale 2 stroke or electric
10-13-2008 | 03:59 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
my savage is out of service due to clutch and flywheel replacement, and complete electronics replacement (neither due to a crash) one was because i fried the elctronics by accidentally putting on too big of a battery and not realizing it until my throttle just stopped moving (while driving i might add)... so it ran away and glassed the 2 shoe clutch over while it was full throttling in a bush. So i decided i might as well upgrade to a 3 shoe clutch while im replacing it, so that stuff is on order. I finished replacing all electronics. Right now im building a roll cage though to hopefully protect against future crashes.
so id say my truck is a lemon but i think it is mostly my fault. So I'll just say that nitro's have ben a lemon for me. But its turned out for the better, pretty much everything that burnt up got a top notch replacement part, not to mention that iv raised its resale by adding all high speed servos and the new flywheel/aluminum clutch shoe replacement.
so id say my truck is a lemon but i think it is mostly my fault. So I'll just say that nitro's have ben a lemon for me. But its turned out for the better, pretty much everything that burnt up got a top notch replacement part, not to mention that iv raised its resale by adding all high speed servos and the new flywheel/aluminum clutch shoe replacement.
10-13-2008 | 04:14 PM
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everyone will have their own different experiences with both electric and nitro...some will never go back to electrics, some will never to back to nitro. This is a debate that can go back and forth for years to come.
I have had some outstanding results with nitro cars/trucks, but for cost and ease of maintenance I would have to stick with electrics..although a blown brushless esc isnt cheap, neither is a blow nitro engine.. so it all comes down to personal preference. I dont really care for electrics...as someone once told me, running electrics is like watching t.v. with the sound turned off..but I dont like tuning nitro engines...especially in a high humidity climate..
If I had no choice but to choose one or the other, I would have to just give up the hobby all together...they both have their pros and cons.
I have had some outstanding results with nitro cars/trucks, but for cost and ease of maintenance I would have to stick with electrics..although a blown brushless esc isnt cheap, neither is a blow nitro engine.. so it all comes down to personal preference. I dont really care for electrics...as someone once told me, running electrics is like watching t.v. with the sound turned off..but I dont like tuning nitro engines...especially in a high humidity climate..
If I had no choice but to choose one or the other, I would have to just give up the hobby all together...they both have their pros and cons.
10-13-2008 | 05:51 PM
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If I had no choice but to choose one or the other, I would have to just give up the hobby all together...they both have their pros and cons.
10-13-2008 | 08:28 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
I'm at the point where all my 1/10 are electric and my 1/8 are nitro. i've been thinking of converting one of my 1/8 to electric but the price tag is turning me off. I may still do it at some point and will probably end up the same way as my helis. Take my favorite nitro and keep that but everything else would be electric.
10-13-2008 | 11:56 PM
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I had both for the past 20+ years. up to 12 at the same time, 7 nitros, 5 electric, on and off road.
I like them both, but im more mechanical inclined.
I need to see, smell and hear that engine [>:]
I fix and install aftermarket parts on my own cars and motorcycles, so working on a nitro car is a pleasure to me.
Again dont get me wrong, electric cars are fun to play with and VERY fast. But for some reason they always end up collecting dust in the garage.
I dont think I will, but IF..I ever consider buying another electric, it will be on road built for straight-line performance.
I like them both, but im more mechanical inclined.
I need to see, smell and hear that engine [>:]
I fix and install aftermarket parts on my own cars and motorcycles, so working on a nitro car is a pleasure to me.
Again dont get me wrong, electric cars are fun to play with and VERY fast. But for some reason they always end up collecting dust in the garage.
I dont think I will, but IF..I ever consider buying another electric, it will be on road built for straight-line performance.
10-14-2008 | 12:23 AM
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I started with electrics, finally got a nitro, and now my electrics are collecting dust. Like Sheograth said, it all depends on the person.
10-14-2008 | 08:56 AM
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ORIGINAL: Wisconsin Nitro
you know the other thread on this got locked for a reason...
you know the other thread on this got locked for a reason...
For me, it started with electric in the 80s, and then I headed toward nitro and once I began to see the appeal of nitro as it relates to 1:1 vehicles (i.e. working internal combustion engine) that seemed the more appealing platform. I never went totally away from electric, however, and now I am old and too much into trying to make crazy ideas come to life so everything needs to be different. Like nitro and electric on the same truck [&:]
10-14-2008 | 08:59 AM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
Back in the days of brushed motors I couldn't be bothered with them, but this brushless stuff has me curious. I'm pretty good with engines and things mechanical but when it comes to electronics I'm kind of a dunce[&:]. If I were to try and put a system together myself there would probably be smoke and fire!
Will be studying up on the subject.
Will be studying up on the subject.
10-14-2008 | 09:33 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
ORIGINAL: sheograth
I don't really make a fuss about what is powering the car.
I don't really make a fuss about what is powering the car.
Yeah, the electric vs nitro discussion, poll question or simply discussing it, is pretty much beat to death not just in RCU, but even in other RC sites.
Hands down, LiPo & Brushless is very quickly passing piston and fuel very qickly. LiPo batts are already very light for their size and store tremendous amounts of evergy per cc of batt material (i.e. charge). Model engines will have to make radical changes to keep up or surpass electrics.
The easiest way I see model engines surpassing or at least keeping up with motors is to go multi-cylinder.
Another possibility is to find a new fuel. Nitro has very little BTUs per given mass, so going with a fuel that is somewhere between alchohol and gasolines in BTUs/mass might be a solution. Such a fuel will of course make a biger bang and create more torque than what nirto can for a given crank, con-rod length geometry. Of course, such an engine will need to be made of stronger materials to take th strsses of more BTUs being released.
10-14-2008 | 09:39 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
ORIGINAL: Anomie
True, but this discussion stemmed from a different question and is thus far doing well.
For me, it started with electric in the 80s, and then I headed toward nitro and once I began to see the appeal of nitro as it relates to 1:1 vehicles (i.e. working internal combustion engine) that seemed the more appealing platform. I never went totally away from electric, however, and now I am old and too much into trying to make crazy ideas come to life so everything needs to be different. Like nitro and electric on the same truck [&:]
ORIGINAL: Wisconsin Nitro
you know the other thread on this got locked for a reason...
you know the other thread on this got locked for a reason...
For me, it started with electric in the 80s, and then I headed toward nitro and once I began to see the appeal of nitro as it relates to 1:1 vehicles (i.e. working internal combustion engine) that seemed the more appealing platform. I never went totally away from electric, however, and now I am old and too much into trying to make crazy ideas come to life so everything needs to be different. Like nitro and electric on the same truck [&:]
Sounds silly and stupid, but I personally like it.
10-15-2008 | 08:49 AM
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I only have nitro and gas too. No electric for me. Just a Losi XXX-NT AD2 and an HPI Baja 5B SS. If I ever get any additional cars they will only be nitro or gas. My dealings with electrics were in the 80's and I could never get them to run reliably as nitro. I know they are better today, much better than they were. But I gotta' have noise and some smoke. I need internal combustion. My "handle" isn't Nitro Fumes because I like electrics.
10-15-2008 | 09:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: SAVAGEJIM
Sounds silly and stupid, but I personally like it.
Sounds silly and stupid, but I personally like it.
With regard to nitro and electric: everything in moderation
10-15-2008 | 10:33 AM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
I think that sometimes it's not us that chooses nitro or electric but rather our neighbours, city... etc.
I'd love to run more nitro but just don't have the time to drive out to the track or a friends place outside the city. My city has a by-law against RC vehicles in city parks but really they only enforce it when there's a complaint. I've never had a complaint with my electrics but with the nitros, as soon as I start it up I see people getting out their cell phones...
I'd love to run more nitro but just don't have the time to drive out to the track or a friends place outside the city. My city has a by-law against RC vehicles in city parks but really they only enforce it when there's a complaint. I've never had a complaint with my electrics but with the nitros, as soon as I start it up I see people getting out their cell phones...
10-15-2008 | 12:03 PM
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RE: The Nitro vs. Electric Experience
ORIGINAL: SAVAGEJIM
Poor horse-ee!
Yeah, the electric vs nitro discussion, poll question or simply discussing it, is pretty much beat to death not just in RCU, but even in other RC sites.
Hands down, LiPo & Brushless is very quickly passing piston and fuel very qickly. LiPo batts are already very light for their size and store tremendous amounts of evergy per cc of batt material (i.e. charge). Model engines will have to make radical changes to keep up or surpass electrics.
The easiest way I see model engines surpassing or at least keeping up with motors is to go multi-cylinder.
Another possibility is to find a new fuel. Nitro has very little BTUs per given mass, so going with a fuel that is somewhere between alchohol and gasolines in BTUs/mass might be a solution. Such a fuel will of course make a biger bang and create more torque than what nirto can for a given crank, con-rod length geometry. Of course, such an engine will need to be made of stronger materials to take th strsses of more BTUs being released.
ORIGINAL: sheograth
I don't really make a fuss about what is powering the car.
I don't really make a fuss about what is powering the car.
Yeah, the electric vs nitro discussion, poll question or simply discussing it, is pretty much beat to death not just in RCU, but even in other RC sites.
Hands down, LiPo & Brushless is very quickly passing piston and fuel very qickly. LiPo batts are already very light for their size and store tremendous amounts of evergy per cc of batt material (i.e. charge). Model engines will have to make radical changes to keep up or surpass electrics.
The easiest way I see model engines surpassing or at least keeping up with motors is to go multi-cylinder.
Another possibility is to find a new fuel. Nitro has very little BTUs per given mass, so going with a fuel that is somewhere between alchohol and gasolines in BTUs/mass might be a solution. Such a fuel will of course make a biger bang and create more torque than what nirto can for a given crank, con-rod length geometry. Of course, such an engine will need to be made of stronger materials to take th strsses of more BTUs being released.
NO!! NO!! NO!!!
This is exactly what im trying to keep this discussion away from! I understand electrics and nitros are subjects which people feel very strongly about. They both have their strengths and some problems. Im really sick of discussing because any discussion wont effect my purchases (or likely anyone elses) anyway.
My simple question is do electrics make nitros collect dust or vice versa?
It seems clear so far that if you start with a nitro and get an electric that the nitro will collect dust and it also works the other way around.
I was just wanted to see how much this held true.
