ToraKitsu

Missed this one......

Yah, those F1 kits (not the ones that are used or already assembled) don't include a lot of things, wheels and tires, and some, no bodywork, either. I like Tamiya kits, but for my first F1, I think it better if I get a kit that is closer to complete. The 3Racing one is the only kit from what I can see, that is as complete a kit as I'm looking for. There are others, like the Speed Passion SP-1 that have some great options, but I still have to educate myself on which parts will fit what kit. As I get further into it, I will know what to get, then I can improve the 3Racing one.

R32GolfTA06

You got to be kidding right? That's embarrassingly bad lol

ToraKitsu

I'm not talking about the performance, I'm talking about the van style.
You want something to tow with, right?

R32GolfTA06

Yea I'm talking about the van style too, it looks crap

ToraKitsu

Oh, well....to each his own. Have finding something.

R32GolfTA06

Thanks for the suggestion though

R32GolfTA06

Look what I found after our chat previously.. Shows a good layout of a custom tensioner

ToraKitsu

Yah, I'm glad they removed all parts that interfere with seeing the tensioner, although the angle is still bad. What's not shown is how the tensioner is attached to the chassis. I assume it's to the front bridge, but without seeing it from another angle, it's hard to tell how they did it. Nice look, though!

R32GolfTA06

I was assuming it's just screwed directly the the bottom chassis plate

ToraKitsu

Can't be......it would interfere with the steering linkage.

R32GolfTA06

I can't see how else as it is sitting low down

ToraKitsu

It has to be attached to the bridge, somehow.

It's why I am getting somewhat disappointed with pics people post, that don't show pertinent details, That might be on-purpose, so as to keep others from marketing their ideas.
Still sux that we can't see it.

R32GolfTA06

Yes maybe but for such a small piece you think people wouldn't car so much

ToraKitsu

In this day and age, anything has a monetary value, and there are those who would take advantage of it. Look at all the clones of TC chassis (and even drift chassis) out there. R2 Hobbies is the one I know that sells obvious clones. Some of them are O.K., I guess, quality-wise, but many of them are garbage.
Then there's the patenting thing.......It takes years to patent something, so the creators have to keep close watch on their inventions.

I'm really not so surprised about the bad pics, just a bit disappointed, because I'm not one to steal ideas for cash, I just want a solution to a problem.

R32GolfTA06

What cloned chassis do R2 hobbies sell?

ToraKitsu

Too many to list, but go to their website.

The only ones I think to be any good are the OTA R31 clones.

R32GolfTA06

How can you tell if they are cloned or not?

R32GolfTA06

I forgot to mention that I managed a long right hander turn drift around a deep corner... Making slow progress but it's fun, especially eoth my car looking so sweet ass lol

ToraKitsu

Because the design is an exact copy of a well-known brand's design, but it is not packaged under that name. The OTA R31 is from Street Jam, in Japan. The clone you saw at R2 is a Chinese product. In fact, almost everything at R2 is Chinese. There are even chassis designs there I have never seen before.
The OTA at R2 isn't bad, overall, but I'm leery of most everything else they sell. Clones are generally made with inferior materials, which is why they can be sold so cheaply, and for many, the lack of quality really never shows itself but on occasion. Usually when they put too high-power a system in it (that would work perfectly fine in the real thing), or crash it, but by then, it's too late to have reservations about the purchase.

As I said previously.....I would consider the OTA R31, but ONLY the OTA. I have seen enough reviews and owner testimonials to see it's not a bad buy, but the others I just wouldn't trust.

ToraKitsu

PRACTICE! That's the ticket.

Drift isn't something you'll magically become proficient at overnight. I've been at it for seven+ years, and I'm still nowhere near as good as I'd like to be. And you'll have days where everything seems to go your way, and others where it seems nothing you do works well, so on those days, it's best to put the transmitter down, and try again another day.

That's why I'm still into drift, after all this time. All the people I knew here, at RCU are mostly gone, now. Seems it's just me, and maybe a couple of familiar names are still posting here.

R32GolfTA06

Yes some of the designs are strange looking, I always stick to main brands and may consider deviating slightly after readying reviews that state an item to be very good if it isn't main stream, but I have struck to main brands to date so far as I want my money's worth..it's a false enonomy buying cheaper parts

ToraKitsu

Speaking of which......I changed my mind on the F1. I'll set that back for purchase maybe mid-next year. I'll be ordering the Ofna H4e, instead. It's an upper-level TC Race chassis (seeing as all my TC chassis were modified to drift), so I'll have at least one 1/10th grip chassis I can use. I just got a bump in my budget of $300, so I can afford something nice. The H4e looks to fit the bill nicely! I'll be getting a Nissan R390 Gt1 body for it, so it'll look like a LeMans racer.

But yes, sticking to name brands has always been my policy, as well. Take Ofna, for instance.....They started out making what were known then, as clones (made by Hong Nor, or Hobao). They "cut their teeth" on them. But today, they are a well-known brand that many people trust. I'm one of them. I've had a number of their chassis, and have been well-satisfied with them, so the H4e, I can expect will be high-quality.
The clones at R2 may get to that level, time will only tell, but like you, I'll stick with what I know, until those clone brands show they can produce quality of a level that can actually compete with the big companies.

R32GolfTA06

The ofne looks nice.. Swift change of mind for you! I'm glad I got into drifting, have been really enjoying it so far.. I find the gripping racers boring and am enjoying the technical aspect of learning to drift

ToraKitsu

Yah, I can see where you are coming from, yet I have to keep my hand in grip driving.

Besides, I've always wanted a LeMans style car, so the H4e fills the bill in a number of areas, so it's not that much of a change of mind.
The great thing about the H4e is, it has all the "option" parts that with other kits you have to purchase separately, and the floating servo mount is especially nice. TC grip racers have traditionally always had a problem with "tweak," and the floating servo mount solves much of it.

Drift is more a matter of fine control, which is why we discussed the motor size and servo speed. There are many of the same aspects to both disciplines, it's just that one is dependent on grip, the other "slip."

R32GolfTA06

If I can master driftng with a 50/50 car 13.5 I'll be flying when it comes to cs and 17.5 :-)