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Old 04-06-2006, 07:15 PM
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Hi,
I am interested in getting the Dark Impact!

Please, could anyone tell me the wheelbase measurement and
the maximum width of the car (wheel nuts to wheel nuts)?
I may put a different body later on.

Also, about the pinion gears, are they standard 48P like these ones,
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEX24&P=7

or are they 'Tamiya' standard ones like this,
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGJ70&P=7

I heard that Tamiya's 48P are different to those made by Robinson/Kimboroughs.

The reason i am asking is I am about to make the purchase of the Dark one
and would like to order the correct pinions gear as well.
(I guess you can say it is 'Impacting' my purchase right now! hehe!)

Also, are there any 'essential' spare parts or hop-up parts I should get as well.
You know, parts that happen to wear out faster than others and parts that will add
flexibility/functions/performance or whatever.

Thanks in advance.



Old 04-06-2006, 07:17 PM
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I believe the tamiya gears are 72 pitch. Not really any aluminum or anything avalible yet, so at this point, all i would reccomend is a nice motor and esc.
Old 04-06-2006, 09:15 PM
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...The drivetrain of the DI is a little different..Of course you could all know this already and I am just running behind [&:]

...here are the front and rear diffs from TAMIYA...The front is on the left...



...The stock pinion is 26t...Quite big...The stock spur is 78t as noted earlier...An 85t is also included and TAMIYA says it is not used in the instructions but it WILL fit...The bigger spur will give us more start torque than the 'stock' one but a slightly slower top speed...

...This might get confusing because i dont fully understand it myself...Tamiya is using a '05 Module' pinion...It is not something I have seen before but it loks like a trickle-down from the higher level on-road sedans...

...TAMIYA lists the wheel base as 260mm but i am not sure of from where they measure...
Old 04-06-2006, 09:43 PM
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whn can we US'ers get on hands on one of these little buggers?
Old 04-06-2006, 09:52 PM
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...TAMIYA still has no info on their site, linked at the top of the thread, but they have a lot more eye-candy up...

...I finished the build last night and the pictures dont even do the CHASSIS justice...It just looks so damn good...
Old 04-06-2006, 10:00 PM
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ORIGINAL:
Also, about the pinion gears, are they standard 48P like these ones,
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEX24&P=7

or are they 'Tamiya' standard ones like this,
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGJ70&P=7
...SibuLord they are NEITHER of these sizes...the teeth are MUCH smaller...

...RE: Parts to pick up...IMO; 8 softer o-rings, (30-35 hardness), FOUR x 850 bearings for the steering rack, (i put some in and it is a no-brainer), flouring coated 5mm pivot balls, (10 in a pack but you need 12) and the 'other' 5mm pivot balls, ( the ones that take a screw to be mounted, the ones that DONT have a screw post on them), also flourine coated...other than that you should be good to go...

...BTW the stock threaded shafts are a MAJOR PITA!! Fit them and then get the adjustables the MINUTE they are released...
Old 04-07-2006, 02:07 PM
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Man, that tranny is crap compared to the rising storm...the weight, the tranny...i'm starting to doubt that this is so great. Besides the turnbuckles nothing different really catches my eye.
Old 04-07-2006, 11:03 PM
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sertainly looks intersting with the battary opening from the bottom (there have been a load more pics of this guy on it's page right [link=http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58370]here[/link])

heres the pics of the "DF serises"

started as this:

then this:

and now this:


think there getting somewhere or is this new one a step back?
Old 04-08-2006, 09:59 AM
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As i mentioned earlier, from hearing the weights and such, i'm not seeing a huge advantage. If i was tamiya, i would've spent that extra 50 bucks per kit throwing camber links and changing the spur/pinion setup on the rising storm.
Old 04-08-2006, 07:35 PM
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...rememeber they are different chassis though...The 03 takes the battery IN the chassis front to end in the middle...This chassis is head and shoulders above the other ones they have done...Seriously quick and seriously nimble...I am not trying to 'persuade' anyne at all but it makes past TAMIYA buggys look shameful...

...I have to disagree with ThatsAnEvader...The Di comes stock with bearings and an exceptional set of rims / tires at just a tiny little more in stock cost...It is a superior machine out of the box...The tie-rods suck for sure but thats about it...but I also must say that the 'stock' settings are loose as a goose and the adjustable buckles SHOULD have been in from the start...
Old 04-08-2006, 07:37 PM
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How's the understeer on this one?
Old 04-08-2006, 08:01 PM
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...TAE I havent had too much time on it yet and its brushless and mostly on asphalt so far but it feels to be more over than under...The rear is quite slippery...Looks like maybe too much camber with the stock settings...Its turning on a dime though...Pretty impressed...

...You know when you get a new car, be it RTR or kit, and the first time you drive it and a certain thing is quite obviously wrong or not good? The only thing that I came up with was the rear setting...Other than that its great...Of course we all know that you fix one part and the gremlin moves somewhere else...But so far the slippery heiney is all i can point to and say YUCK!! That and the turnbuckles from Satan's own workshop [>:]
Old 04-09-2006, 05:06 PM
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bithead are you telling me you atuly have one? or are you just eyeballing it and thinking of what the problems could/will be? (i'm not being rude i hope just hopeing that someone has one )

so uh when are these guys coming out?[sm=confused.gif]
Old 04-09-2006, 05:59 PM
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He has one...

I think they're coming out in may.
Old 04-09-2006, 06:17 PM
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...I have one, its built, painted and already scratched I took pictures but my wife has the digi-cam for open day at Kindy...They will be up in 24 hours though...

...My oil is too soft, scraped my bum a couple of times so I will go up to 400 but i still think 900 is WAY too hard...And I have to move the upper links in the rear to settle down the on-power wobbles out of the corner...Its a little bit skittery right now but I am sure the AON 5800 powerplant isnt helping

...BTW you will need some VERY low-profile electronic componenets to make everything fit nice and snug...The chassis is tight...I THOUGHT i would have some interference issues with the FUTABA HRS RX and the MAMBA 25 ESC but its all good...Range is fantastic too...

...The LONG steering linkage looks goofy as hell but ZERO problems...A regular 3003 servo is in there for steering and its going strong...

...I havent glued my tires yet and I paid the price...The AON is chucking them off all over the place and I have to check them after a speed run...I know I know Glue them
Old 04-10-2006, 09:24 PM
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...Time for show and tell









Old 04-10-2006, 09:26 PM
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The AON 5800L all tucked up and ready to fly...



...The stock spur 'uncovered'...I have been running without the cover and its fine so far...

Old 04-10-2006, 09:57 PM
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Bithed,
I think it looks pretty slick, the only thing I would change is the wheels, throw on a nice set of dish rims! What can size is the AON, is it a 540?
Old 04-10-2006, 10:40 PM
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how much in USD does the dark thunder cost?
Old 04-10-2006, 11:03 PM
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...The motor is the [link=http://www.aonelectric.com/Products/BrushlessMotors/Killer/killer.html?Category=Killer]AON ELECTRIC 5800L[/link]...You will love it...It makes the ground rattle as the car passes by

...INVERTED...I have to keep it a LITTLE stock until a certain TAMIYA race at the end of April...After that I think I will put some Proline rims and tires on it...Switch the stock units to the Mini Inferno ST...
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I do like the look of of that over the df-02...R/C fan, it's 153 on towerhobbies.
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I would just spend the extra $20 and get a team B4... still the dark impact looks like lots of fun!
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WOW, it looks great! I think I need to add one of those to my collection!! Nice!
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ORIGINAL: ThatsAnEvader!

I do like the look of of that over the df-02...R/C fan, it's 153 on towerhobbies.

We here at US are being rubbed... at Hong Kong (www.rcmart.com), it is $105... !!

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...ducts_id=17784
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ORIGINAL: BitHed

The AON 5800L all tucked up and ready to fly...



...The stock spur 'uncovered'...I have been running without the cover and its fine so far...


Any reason that you run it without the cover on the transmission?


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