RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
03-02-2006 | 03:53 PM
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RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
Yup its out. Based on the CADS from the model designed by Great Planes.
Thanks to everyone that participated in creating this model so quickly. Big thanks to Pat Libby, J. David Johnson, Marc Vigod, Myself
and everyone at Great Planes.
Enjoy the model!
You can get it from www.aeroflypro.com/download <--3D Aircraft
Thanks to everyone that participated in creating this model so quickly. Big thanks to Pat Libby, J. David Johnson, Marc Vigod, Myself
and everyone at Great Planes.Enjoy the model!
You can get it from www.aeroflypro.com/download <--3D Aircraft
03-02-2006 | 03:57 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
This thing flies AWESOME!!!!
4D Version of this is a must, it's just too cool.
Rolling harriers are perfect, torks great, just awesome.
Great model guys!
4D Version of this is a must, it's just too cool.
Rolling harriers are perfect, torks great, just awesome.
Great model guys!
03-02-2006 | 04:20 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
A couple members PM'd me wanting to know more about this...posting here for reference.
Where to Purchase?
Local dealer or on Tower Hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLVA8&P=RT
Where can I get more info?
Mfg info webpage: http://www.electrifly.com/flatouts/gpma1117.html
Where to Purchase?
Local dealer or on Tower Hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLVA8&P=RT
Where can I get more info?
Mfg info webpage: http://www.electrifly.com/flatouts/gpma1117.html
03-02-2006 | 04:22 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
Hey Guys,
I just made the 4D, VPP, PPS, RVP, whatever you wanna call it, version of the bipe. [8D]
this thing flies great both ways!
Just need a place to host it, and viola! (however you spell 'vwala')
I just made the 4D, VPP, PPS, RVP, whatever you wanna call it, version of the bipe. [8D]
this thing flies great both ways!
Just need a place to host it, and viola! (however you spell 'vwala')
03-02-2006 | 07:05 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
AWESOME model!
I've finished my 4D version
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It flys perfectly standard and 4D.
Thanks for another exceptional model!
Greg.
I've finished my 4D version
.It flys perfectly standard and 4D.
Thanks for another exceptional model!
Greg.
03-02-2006 | 07:46 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
I'm going to test a couple versions of VPP. If you have a version email it to [email protected] and I'll give it a whirl before it's posted.
03-02-2006 | 08:10 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
Hello all,
I'm glad you all like the RCU Bipe for Aerofly. But I noticed something interesting today.
First... In the past I have read threads where people have said that my Shocky Yak 54 wouldn't harrier well and had other bad characteristics that the original model on my computer did not exhibit. Well, this afternoon I installed the RCU bipe onto a buddy's Dell laptop computer with AFPD version 1.8.0.21 (Same version as on my computer)
I was surprised after flying it on his machine that it didn't fly exactly the same. We are not talking controller setup, I'm talking flight characteristics...The model had a mind of it's own in harrier flight wanting to pitch up into a hover from both upright and inverted harriers making high alpha rolling maneuvers very difficult. I fixed the problem by moving the For/Aft CG from -0.5 to 0.5 The model then flew almost exactly like the original. So just in case anyone has this problem, you now know the fix.
Enjoy,
Patrick
I'm glad you all like the RCU Bipe for Aerofly. But I noticed something interesting today.
First... In the past I have read threads where people have said that my Shocky Yak 54 wouldn't harrier well and had other bad characteristics that the original model on my computer did not exhibit. Well, this afternoon I installed the RCU bipe onto a buddy's Dell laptop computer with AFPD version 1.8.0.21 (Same version as on my computer)
I was surprised after flying it on his machine that it didn't fly exactly the same. We are not talking controller setup, I'm talking flight characteristics...The model had a mind of it's own in harrier flight wanting to pitch up into a hover from both upright and inverted harriers making high alpha rolling maneuvers very difficult. I fixed the problem by moving the For/Aft CG from -0.5 to 0.5 The model then flew almost exactly like the original. So just in case anyone has this problem, you now know the fix.
Enjoy,
Patrick
03-02-2006 | 10:38 PM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
One thing about it is that since the model is modeled after a Great Planes model then there are not going to be any problems when someone models one for G3 since G3 is a great planes product. This goes for all the Flat Out models.
03-03-2006 | 05:24 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
One thing about it is that since the model is modeled after a Great Planes model then there are not going to be any problems when someone models one for G3 since G3 is a great planes product. This goes for all the Flat Out models.
So if you think there are not going to be any problems, which it sounds like you already know the answer, copying the model and Great Planes trademark without their permission, then have at it. Since Great Planes produces expansion packs for their models this MAY or MAY NOT be a sensitive issue.
However, the digital trim scheme produced for the AFPD model cannot be copied, 3 viewed or used without permission from the copyright holder as per the AEROFLYPRO.COM EULA. If you would like to use the a trim scheme for a G3 model from any AFPD, XTR, FMS or other simulated airplane, ASK PERMISSION and you would be surprised what your answer may be, or in some cases might not be.
The reason some companies may not let you use their model shapes, name, or trademarks are because if the modeler produces a flying plane for the simulator and it flies like crap then it WILL effect their sales. But, if you produce a model "close" to another model and call it Model X then that you can do without problems because your not impinging on anyone else's intellectual property.
03-03-2006 | 06:43 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
The VPP version is up. Thanks to Greg Bradley for the conversion. Here are some more pics and video to follow!
03-03-2006 | 07:07 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
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We were given ASISSTANCE, CADS and PERMISSION from Great Planes to produce the model.
So if you think there are not going to be any problems, which it sounds like you already know the answer, copying the model and Great Planes trademark without their permission, then have at it. Since Great Planes produces expansion packs for their models this MAY or MAY NOT be a sensitive issue.
However, the digital trim scheme produced for the AFPD model cannot be copied, 3 viewed or used without permission from the copyright holder as per the AEROFLYPRO.COM EULA. If you would like to use the a trim scheme for a G3 model from any AFPD, XTR, FMS or other simulated airplane, ASK PERMISSION and you would be surprised what your answer may be, or in some cases might not be.
The reason some companies may not let you use their model shapes, name, or trademarks are because if the modeler produces a flying plane for the simulator and it flies like crap then it WILL effect their sales. But, if you produce a model "close" to another model and call it Model X then that you can do without problems because your not impinging on anyone else's intellectual property.
One thing about it is that since the model is modeled after a Great Planes model then there are not going to be any problems when someone models one for G3 since G3 is a great planes product. This goes for all the Flat Out models.
So if you think there are not going to be any problems, which it sounds like you already know the answer, copying the model and Great Planes trademark without their permission, then have at it. Since Great Planes produces expansion packs for their models this MAY or MAY NOT be a sensitive issue.
However, the digital trim scheme produced for the AFPD model cannot be copied, 3 viewed or used without permission from the copyright holder as per the AEROFLYPRO.COM EULA. If you would like to use the a trim scheme for a G3 model from any AFPD, XTR, FMS or other simulated airplane, ASK PERMISSION and you would be surprised what your answer may be, or in some cases might not be.
The reason some companies may not let you use their model shapes, name, or trademarks are because if the modeler produces a flying plane for the simulator and it flies like crap then it WILL effect their sales. But, if you produce a model "close" to another model and call it Model X then that you can do without problems because your not impinging on anyone else's intellectual property.
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03-03-2006 | 07:47 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
Why can't you guys understand this stuff. For one thing 50% do you even create models for the sim, or are you here just trying to make something simple, something complicated? If you don't understand copyrights/intellectual property rights you should not be reproducing models.
The DIGITAL trim scheme created for the AFPD model is now COPYRIGHTED. If you want to create your own scheme, THEN CREATE IT YOURSELF OR ASK PERMISSION. DO NOT copy the BMP image or do not 3 view the image. These schemes take people time to create. If you've ever created a trim scheme you will understand what I'm talking about.
The DIGITAL trim scheme created for the AFPD model is now COPYRIGHTED. If you want to create your own scheme, THEN CREATE IT YOURSELF OR ASK PERMISSION. DO NOT copy the BMP image or do not 3 view the image. These schemes take people time to create. If you've ever created a trim scheme you will understand what I'm talking about.
03-03-2006 | 08:02 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
So what you're saying is that I could make a RCU Flatout, but I can't use the scheme without permission from AFPD, even if GP and RCU are behind it.
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
THE DIGITAL TRIM SCHEME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CANNOT USE THE TRIM SCHEME THAT WAS PRODUCED BY HAND FOR THE MODEL FOR AFPD!!!!!
YOU CANNOT USE THE TRIM SCHEME THAT WAS PRODUCED BY HAND FOR THE MODEL FOR AFPD!!!!!
03-03-2006 | 08:09 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
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THE DIGITAL TRIM SCHEME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CANNOT USE THE TRIM SCHEME THAT WAS PRODUCED BY HAND FOR THE MODEL FOR AFPD!!!!! The one produced for the AFPD model.
It's amazing that you are one of god's creatures.
THE DIGITAL TRIM SCHEME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CANNOT USE THE TRIM SCHEME THAT WAS PRODUCED BY HAND FOR THE MODEL FOR AFPD!!!!! The one produced for the AFPD model.
It's amazing that you are one of god's creatures.
03-03-2006 | 08:16 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
In fact, you claimed that when Rick Delten used the same scheme for G3, he had copied it directly from AFPD. You also threatened to sue over it when he clearly hadn't copied it.(there is plenty of evidence)
03-03-2006 | 08:16 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
NO!!!! You don't know what your talking about. I did not claim to the rights and I never threatened to sue.
IPACS owns the copyright to the DIGITAL trim scheme and THEY DID GET PERMSSION from Composite ARF to use the scheme. This was the scheme that Rick Delten blatantly copied by 3 viewing the AFPD version. IPACS DID contact Rick Delten and ask him to replace the trim scheme, which he did because he knew he made a copy of it.
IPACS owns the copyright to the DIGITAL trim scheme and THEY DID GET PERMSSION from Composite ARF to use the scheme. This was the scheme that Rick Delten blatantly copied by 3 viewing the AFPD version. IPACS DID contact Rick Delten and ask him to replace the trim scheme, which he did because he knew he made a copy of it.
03-03-2006 | 08:21 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
The evidence here is that Rick's version would have been lower quality than the AFPD version and besides, it wouldn't have worked as they were two totally different models. In Fact, Rick's version was MUCH higher quality then the AFPD version.
03-03-2006 | 08:29 AM
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RE: RCUniverse.com Flatout Bipe for AFPD
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I don't think the mods of RCU are going to appreciate your trolling in this particular thread.
I don't think the mods of RCU are going to appreciate your trolling in this particular thread.
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