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godzilla95 04-20-2007 09:53 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Can anyone scroll through the aircraft or flying site lists using their mousewheel? Or do I need to change something in my mouse driver?

Thanks

SitNFly 04-20-2007 11:13 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: godzilla95

Can anyone scroll through the aircraft or flying site lists using their mousewheel? Or do I need to change something in my mouse driver?

Thanks
Never has worked for me. Wish it did:)!

kenrinc 04-21-2007 03:13 AM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
That's actually on my list of gripes: most of the fields don't comply with the Windows interface guidelines. For instance, when editing aircraft decriptions, you cannot highlight the text field and replace with typed text, you can only back space over it. Baffling really but as long as I know that how to change it I can work with it.

Ken-

airbusdrvr 04-21-2007 08:54 AM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Does anyone have descriptions of the views? i.e. Perfect vs Lagged and Autozoom vs shifted? I've looked through the titles of FAGs and didn't see anything. Maybe I missed it.

Any hints on flying a straight line parallel to the runway when the airplane height doesn't allow seeing the runway/ground? I find when doing over the top manuevers or trying to fly a high line I have no reference if I'm steering off the parallel line. Maybe there is a way to keep the ground more in view.

sctholson 04-21-2007 12:13 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
airbusdvr,
There was a post and answer by FSOne about keeping the horizon in view. try a search on that and see if it is what you want. Sorry I don't have any descriptions of views. Goodluck. Scott

SitNFly 04-21-2007 12:16 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr

Does anyone have descriptions of the views? i.e. Perfect vs Lagged and Autozoom vs shifted? I've looked through the titles of FAGs and didn't see anything. Maybe I missed it.
Press F2 on a standard install and it will give you a lagged/shifted view which keeps more of the ground in view. You can still fly out of the frame, however. There is a FAQ on the interiasoft site; take another look. Not really very descriptive on what the views actually mean, though.


Any hints on flying a straight line parallel to the runway when the airplane height doesn't allow seeing the runway/ground? I find when doing over the top manuevers or trying to fly a high line I have no reference if I'm steering off the parallel line. Maybe there is a way to keep the ground more in view.
You have to use a "shifted view" to do this. In a Pano field, I believe F4 will cycle through several views.

btamxx 04-21-2007 12:30 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
I have to agree. IMHO having been in software developement for decades, different is not always better and in many cases, is worse. If the water flows downstream, why try to go upstream against it? Since MS Windows is the defacto standard for windowed programming, I would consider non-standard 'windows' a severe detraction.

The direction of software developement today is toward less keystrokes. Having to hit the backspace key several times is not compliant with this goal and is simply not user friendly. This also applies to anything in the software that is non-windows standard.[:@]

However, the software is so well developed, it is worth the hassle. simply put, the non-windows compliance makes it less than a 10 out of a possible 10 and because of this, it never will be. Perhaps in the first re-write.

I apologize if this sounds a little scathing because it is not really meant to be. This just happens to be one of my pet peevs. I really do like the software.:D

my 2 cents.


ORIGINAL: kenrinc

That's actually on my list of gripes: most of the fields don't comply with the Windows interface guidelines. For instance, when editing aircraft decriptions, you cannot highlight the text field and replace with typed text, you can only back space over it. Baffling really but as long as I know that how to change it I can work with it.

Ken-

btamxx 04-21-2007 12:38 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
That just blows my mind. I admire anyone that can safely take the lives of litteraly tens of thousands of people and deliver them safely through some of the most hazerdous environments in the world. The atmosphere is a very alien place for humans. I love it, but it takes all the knowlege man has to traverse it. My honors to you my friend.:)

Bill

btamxx 04-21-2007 05:01 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Dear Brian:[&o]

Lost sound again...[:o] Sorry!

Bill

btamxx 04-21-2007 05:29 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Hi all;

Just a little something to help gain a finer control of your joysticks (for me at least). The Frasca Airport terrain has a little housing community with streets and all. I use the F6 key to select the aligned 10 Ft. chase view to follow the plane. Then I pick a model, start with low control rates settings on the 3-way switch, and try to fly through the town following the streets at ground level between the various homes without cracking up. Once I get to where I can do it regularly, I increase the control rate sensitivity with the flight mode switch and start all over again. I have found that when you use the chase view, you can see a lot more of what your sticks are doing to the plane and you will be surprised at all the little gyrations we put these models through that we can't see from the ground. It has really helped my landing and other stuff that requires a good tight control, especially the Helis. After I master a model, I’ll start another one until I get good enough to fly them all through the streets. Then there is this airport hanger with both doors open that you can see all the way through… Need I say more?;)

Just a thought…

FSOneDev 04-21-2007 05:45 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

ORIGINAL: btamxx

Dear Brian:[&o]

Lost sound again...[:o] Sorry!

Bill
What type of sound card are you using? I'm guessing it's a Realtek... Which version?

Brian

btamxx 04-21-2007 05:56 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
You nailed it!

Model: Realtek AC'97
Driver Date: 10/13/2006
Driver Version: 5.10.0.6180

It's builtin on an nVidia LanParty motherboard.

BTW, I escaped out and went back in and the sound was there.

Thanks,

Bill

airbusdrvr 04-22-2007 02:43 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
I cannot get the Function keys(F2, F4, etc.) to "function." Other keyboard commands work(Esc, letter keys, etc.) but not the Function keys. I am using a Microsoft keyboard with a Dell computer. I cannot change views from the keyboard. Any ideas?

sctholson 04-22-2007 04:43 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Search the help file in the program, it says something about this. I don't remember if it is pano views or 3d views that the keys don't work in.

FSOneDev 04-22-2007 07:52 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr

I cannot get the Function keys(F2, F4, etc.) to "function." Other keyboard commands work(Esc, letter keys, etc.) but not the Function keys. I am using a Microsoft keyboard with a Dell computer. I cannot change views from the keyboard. Any ideas?
Take a look at the keycard that comes with the sim. Certain function keys only work with 3D flying sites -- pano sites cannot use all of the keys, since the eyepoint location is fixed in a single location.

Does this make sense or are you seeing other problems? If your other keys work, the function keys should work, too.

Hope this helps...

btamxx 04-22-2007 08:08 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Hi airbusdrvr.

The following should be able to help. They don't have a manual yet but these FAQs are really detailed.

Bill

BTW. The forum monitor might want to make these links available as a sticky at the top. Sure might stop a lot of redundant questions, especially since there is no manual. IMHO :D

FS One Product Support FAQs
Product support FAQs for FS One can be found at the FS One product website FAQs page.
http://www.fsone.com/Support/Default.aspx

Additional FAQs can be found at the InertiaSoft FS One Support FAQs page.
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/index.html


ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr

I cannot get the Function keys(F2, F4, etc.) to "function." Other keyboard commands work(Esc, letter keys, etc.) but not the Function keys. I am using a Microsoft keyboard with a Dell computer. I cannot change views from the keyboard. Any ideas?

airbusdrvr 04-22-2007 08:08 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Brian, thanks for the reply. First of all, I've had the sim just a week so I'm not an expert, but trying. When I asked the Function question, I had Pano sites selected. After reading your above reply, I changed to 3D sites and chose Frasca Airport. I still can not get any change in view when using F1 thru F12. I've been flying the Edge 540 and the BVM Viper, so I guess I have and have not been in 3D. I'm just curious what plane, field, sky, choices I need to make to use the view functions. Thanks, Ron

FSOneDev 04-22-2007 08:55 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr
Brian, thanks for the reply. First of all, I've had the sim just a week so I'm not an expert, but trying. When I asked the Function question, I had Pano sites selected. After reading your above reply, I changed to 3D sites and chose Frasca Airport. I still can not get any change in view when using F1 thru F12. I've been flying the Edge 540 and the BVM Viper, so I guess I have and have not been in 3D. I'm just curious what plane, field, sky, choices I need to make to use the view functions. Thanks, Ron
Ron -- Wow, this is a tough one. So, your keyboard is functioning with other keys, but not the F1-F12 keys, correct? Do you have any other applications that may have re-mapped your keyboard? Is your keyboard plugged in directly to the comptuer or via a KVM switch or USB hub?

We've seen a few situations where a keyboard has a hardware problem. In these cases, if you hold down shift and then press the F1-F12 keys (while still holding down shift), it may function. Try this. Does it work for you?

This is an unusual issue, but we'll get this resolved for you.

airbusdrvr 04-22-2007 09:54 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
;);)FSOneDev,btamxx, I went into the keyboard settings and saw "Function Lock Off" was checked and changed it to "On" and retried the F keys. That did it. I now get the view changes by using the function keys. Thanks Guys[8D]:D

FSOneDev 04-22-2007 10:07 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr

;);)FSOneDev,btamxx, I went into the keyboard settings and saw "Function Lock Off" was checked and changed it to "On" and retried the F keys. That did it. I now get the view changes by using the function keys. Thanks Guys[8D]:D
Thanks for the reply -- glad to hear things are now working for you!

btamxx 04-23-2007 08:06 AM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Hi Brian.

I have a small gripe with the editors. When we want to create a new plane or Tx. and make just a few minor changes, we have to make a copy which is a good idea. When we make a copy, the entire name, description, and all other text are not duplicated as well. [:@] Even if you have to mark in the text that it is a copy. The Tx./plane are the same with minor change just to personalize it. This is even more important since you are not using a default MS Windows platform and we cannot cut and paste or use any other windows/mouse feature when editing. [:@] Not having the windows format makes it tuff for us out here. [:@] I really hope you choose to at least emulate the windows GUI if not fully convert to it. :D And if not, at least copy all text when making a copy. :(

BTW, the screens are all absolutely beautiful.:D

Thanks,

Bill

btamxx 04-23-2007 08:21 AM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
This is for the entire forum membership.

I hope I am not stepping out of line here and I’m sure that if I am, I will be dully notified.

Guys and Gals, this software is great and is so new, it is really still in the development stage. There will most likely be a re-write/major release eventually and all of our input will be considered. So actually, we can be part of the grass roots development team. I'm sure that the FS one developers want to listen to their customer base merely for the fact that they want to maintain their edge over all the competition.

Before I retired, my company put on a big User Group meeting annually to provide hands on training and to hear our customers help to maintain our lead in the industry. Our customer base was always ready and willing to spend the money as long as they know that what they had to say was important to us.

So come on folks. What do you want to see in the next major release?

Bill

kenrinc 04-23-2007 03:51 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
I think it would be great to provide suggestions for product development but unfortunately that is going to make this thread unbelievably hard to get any useful information from when it's buried in a 300 pages of threads! It makes more sense to either get some type of private forum happening or at least post in separate posts. Registering in a separate forum keeps a substantial amount of "static" out which seems to plaque all the RC groups (ie: this program sucks, no, this program sucks, no, you suck, ad infinitum...) I personally don't see a major rewrite of this program anytime in the *immediate* future (as in the next 3 months) I could be wrong but that's the way I see it. Just being able to have well written patches on a regular basis and good info from the InertiaSoft team on how things work with "what we have now", in our hands, seems most logical to me at this point.

$.02

Ken-

btamxx 04-23-2007 04:49 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Regardless of where you put them and when a re-write will happen, it will happen. When it does, I'd rather be a part of the solution than not. That is the nature of this business.

Thanks,

btamxx 04-23-2007 07:33 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
I need help and I hope someone has an idea for me. I searched everywhere I know. No bananas.

I am training on the Blade CP, which is a little wild. Since it only uses two of the three modes on the 3-position switch, I assigned the 3rd. mode to tame it down a little in normal flight. Now I want to use one of the other flight modes 1-5 for other purposes. I edited the mode setting to activate on key-1. I tried every possible mode of activation such as key-1 down, etc., and can’t get it to activate in either the editor or the Sim. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Bill


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