RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Sweet! Can't wait...hope you have the Parkzone warbirds! That would be great!

Thanks for the update.

Nick

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Michael, thanks alot! it worked!!

Got some more hours on the sim last night....just gets better and better, loving it...way better than any other i have tried. Well done Inertia soft....

Cheers

W

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

One the the reasons I bought FS One was to try out helicopters, to see if I enjoy flying them and to get an idea of what to purchase. If I buy a helicopter it will either be a Blade CP Pro or a T-Rex 450.

Of course, I know nothing about realism in helicopters, but the Blade CP Pro in FS One seems to fly very well. I also want to try an electric similar in size to the T-Rex 450.

The JR Voyager E seems to be the closest to the T-Rex, but for some reason I find it really hard to fly. The larger size is a plus, but it seems extremely slow to react to any input changes, resulting in lots of crashes. Is this something particular to the JR Voyager E, or are larger electrics harder to fly?

It would be nice if the T-Rex 450 was added, I believe it is the most popular electric in it's size class, and Horizon sells it, so it would be a good marketing tool.

Malcolm

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hi.

I have a peculiar problem. I was flying the Blade CP in the sim and I wanted to see better definition. So I escaped out and set my video card to higher resolution instead of higher FPS. I have an nVidea GEforce 4400 and it has the capability to have a different set of parameters based on which program I am running. In the beginning with FS One, I setup a FS One profile for the video settings and set them exactly as what is called for by FS One. I have been flying it successfully for about two months, and have experimented with the settings to get an acceptable frame rate and the most resolution I can get. I have never had a problem where I couldn't start FS One as far as I can remember. I did two things. I went into options and turned off the music on load. Escaped out and changed the resolution settings as I have many times. I then tried to start the sim and the screen merely flashed very quickly and briefly but no sim. I then went back into my video settings and restored them to what they were just before the problem. I then removed the profile for FS One and the sim would then use the default video options which has worked well heretofore. Still no joy. So I went to the folder and created a Dos prompt and tried running the sim there so I might be able to catch any error that occurred. When I did that, the Dos window disappeared and my desktop returned. I checked the program bar and the Dos window was still there but it would not open. I then rebooted and it still would not work. I then went to the options folder and deleted the 2 options file betting that FS One would recreate them with the shipped defaults. I then tried the sim again with no change. I then checked the options folder and the sim did recreate the options files as planned.

One thing I did do was to double click the icon twice within a second or so. This produced a Dos window with the error message that FS One will not start as long as the other FS One program was running. Remember, I had rebooted more than once. So I started the task manager looking for a process that might have been related to FS One and found nothing. I then double clicked the icon once and did not get the error message again, but still no sim.

Now the sim still won’t run, the Dos prompt freezes up when trying to run the sim, and I am dead in the water. I changed nothing else during this problem.

After posting, I thought of directing the Dos output to a text file and was able to capture the following:

Video is not in 32bpp mode. Attempting to set 32bit mode...
System Info:
Operating System : Windows XP Pro
Service Pack : SP2
DirectX Version : DirectX 9.0c
Number of processors : 1
The mouse has a wheel.
A network is present.

*************************************
Exception thrown!

unknown type
*************************************

I will go to the FAQS page and look for this message.



Help!!

Bill.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

btamxx -

You deleted the options file. The sim will not run without that.

Try this:

In the Options folder is the file:

default_options.txt

Make a copy default_options.txt and rename the copy to

options.txt

Then restart the sim. This will set the options back to the defaults. Does that fix it?

If not ... are there other files you deleted? If so, what specifically did you delete? Recommendation ... don't delete files. The sim can manage all the file copying and deleting itself.

Michael

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Michael et al,

If I could make a suggestion that might have helped others with deleted files, instead of deleting them, rename them by putting an underscore in front of the filename, i.e., rename options.txt to _options.txt. Then, if someone wants to experiment, it's easy to undo the mistake. The underscore will automatically put these files at the top of the list (if you sort by filename) where they can be easily found and re-used (i.e., rename them again, to remove the underscore) and return the file to its original configuration.

I hope that didn't sound too confusing, but that trick has saved my butt many times - and don't be afraid to ask me how long it took me to figure that one out.

Bob

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

That's a good tip. I usually use something like *_old... when renaming.

I did not recommend renaming here because he (btamxx) did not have anything to start with. He deleted his original options file!

The basic advice in all of this - Don't delete any files. Rename them first.

Michael

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Well, not exactly. I new that the files I deleted would still be in the recycle bin, so I simply restored them. Still no joy. Same error msg as before.

Bill

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Do you have these files still around:
default_devoptions.txt
default_options.txt

Michael

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Yes sir. I have taken and copied the default files to their respective options and devoptions dot txt files and still no joy.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Then I think the problem has nothing to do w/ FS One. Those option files are the only ones that FS One reads on startup and it should run like it always has on your system. Brian might have some ideas here.

Michael

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Ok Michael. I just can't figure anything that could have changed between shutting it down and trying to start it again. At least anything other than what I stated.

Thanks,
Bill

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Well Michael, you might find this interesting. I just remembered that I had set the color depth to 16k from 32k experimenting with the FPS. I know better than to change more than one parameter when experimenting but it never dawned on me that the software couldn’t handle. The tip-off was the error message said that the video was not in 32bpp mode… trying to set to 32bpp…

I was not aware that color depth was expressed as ‘bpp’ so it never struck a chord. While trying to trouble shoot it, I was trying different things and reading the Dos error msg. Same Msg. every time. Then my attention was suddenly drawn to the msg. and the only thing that I could relate to 16/32 was color depth. So I set the color depth back to 32 bit and it took off flying (literally)  I hope this helps everyone concerned. Since the software doesn’t trap this event gracefully, I suggest it be put in the technical FAQs on the site. Thanks for looking into it anyway.

Bill

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Bill -- Sorry I didn't see your post sooner. The error message "Video is not in 32bpp mode. Attempting to set 32bit mode... " says it all. In some cases, the FS One code will actually set 32-bit color mode automatically, but in most cases the driver prevents doing so. As a result, the user needs to set 32-bit manually. This typically isn't a problem, since most people use 32-bit color rather than the older and less capable 16-bit.

Glad you sorted it out.

BTW -- It's good to hear that your good old trusty GF4400 can handle FS One!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Thanks Brian. Yeah, the ole 4400 has been very reliable over the years. I've gotten a lot out of it. It only provides me with 50-90 FPS but I have a very good 19" monitor that help a lot.

Bill

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hi Brian & Michael!

I was flying the P-51 model but I found out that I have scaling options for the planes! I own the Parkzone Spitfire and my buddies have the P-51 and Focke-Wulf so I was VERY excited to see that I could scale the "normal" P-51 down (using 8.8% scale) to reflect the Parkzone P-51. In fact, the description in the sim says, "This size makes it similar to the Parkzone P-51 at a 39.5" wingspan" So I think is AWESOME!!!

However, when I scale the plane down to this size and other smaller sizes (8.8, 4.5) the crash detection (despite checking to make sure it is turned on) will not work. So I can run the plane into objects or the ground and it simply bounces off. The prop won't even break either.

I called tech support to see if I was doing something wrong but they said it sounds like a glitch. The guy said he can edit the bigger plane down to 39 inches and it has crash detection but he things this is a bug that needs to be worked out and wasn't aware of it. Anyone else have more info on this?

Thanks,
Nick

PS I was definitely surprised when I started tinkering with the features of the sim and found out that I can scale the plane down and read this plane is just like the Parkzone one! That was exactly what I was going after! Very cool but hopefully the crash feature can be fixed.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hey Nickerz,
In the General tab of the options setting is a checkbox for "indestructable aircraft" do you have this checked or unchecked, if it is checked simply uncheck it.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I figured this was the problem too but I made sure all boxes were unchecked. The tech on the phone was fooling around with it too and said it looks like it's a glitch b/c his was doing the same thing. He asked me if I had the most recent version, which I confirmed I did. My question now, is he said he was able to scale down the plane but not using the options. He said he made the wing span 33". After looking through the options, I can't find where he did this.

Can you see if this happens on your sim?

Thanks!
Nick

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Nick,
I loaded the P-51, and copied it; edited it and went to the Scaling size/weight options, in the second option down it gives me a chance to change the wing span to a certain size, is this what you are referring too or do you want me to fly and see if it crashes?
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Yes, that's it. That plane should be able to crash as the tech said his did. But then when he did what I did, which was select a specific scale in the sim (in this case 8.8) the planes don't crash) and he said it sounds like a glitch that he is going to document and let the programmers know.

Thanks Scott!
Nick

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Might take me a few minutes Nick, I use my own transmitter and I'm stuck in a constant reset. I have to go back and look over the old posts. I know I read this happened to someone else. Be back soon (I hope).
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hey Nick,
I can't figure out how to get my landing gear down, seems that my P-51 and my moded P-51 has the landing gear retracted.
I'm stuck.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hi Scott.

Hope to save you a lot of looking through the threads. Do a total by-the-book calibration to get out of the constant reset. I hope this helps.

Bill

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Yeah, I figured it out, not a constant reset, just the gear down, and I just read the manual, duh!.

Okay, my moded P-51 does break apart on crash.

Does your stock P-51 crash?, Or are all aircraft indestructable?
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Good question.

If you pick the regular P-51 in the sim and scale it down, it will break apart on crashes.

If you pick one of the smallish scaled P-51's in the scaled airplane list, it might not break up because we disabled breakable parts on some smallish scaled airplanes.

We do this because of math instabilities that can happen w/ "itsey bitsey" (tiny) parts.

If you want to revert back to breakable parts, just copy the regular Hangar 9 P-51 BreakableParts.cfg parts file into your new airplane folder (look in the "Aircraft" directory to find these airplane folders and the BreakableParts.cfg file).

It the sim acts weird w/ crashes w/ your edited plane w/ the full BreakableParts.cfg parts file, you'll know why ... Have fun experimenting.

Michael