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sctholson 01-12-2008 07:58 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
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Learjet,
Here's what I have for you, I think you need to change the channel assignments. Click on the transmitter and copy it if you have not already done so, then click edit. This should bring you up to this image. This is the channel assignment selection. On my transmitter screen the throttle hold switch was channel 6 or second from the bottom and it says throttle hold switch in the blue channel name section. on that same line, move left to the very first column where it says source and then click on the axis on the same line as the throttle hold. Your task is to figure out which axis on the transmitter is throttle hold. I don't think you need to change the Input type where it says Controller axis, but probably the next field down. as you can tell from this image my DX6 controller has the throttle hold on Axis 4.
Give it a try and see what happens, let me know.
Scott H

lookyj 01-13-2008 02:22 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Brian -

any news on another expansion pack in the works?

I'd love to see a few more helis, especially the TREX 600 (both Electric and Nitro) for FS One. Also, a default controller configuration for the DX7 would be nice.

Thanks!

FSOneDev 01-13-2008 10:23 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: lookyj

Brian -

any news on another expansion pack in the works?

I'd love to see a few more helis, especially the TREX 600 (both Electric and Nitro) for FS One. Also, a default controller configuration for the DX7 would be nice.

Thanks!
Yes, another expansion is in the works.

Thanks for the suggestions, we'll consider those.

lookyj 01-13-2008 11:33 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
any dates for the release?

gtazzed1 01-14-2008 02:42 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Quick ? ihave fsone did all the updates but when i try to use the blade cp pro the tail will swing to the right only way to control it is to adjust the trim all the way to the right when i calibrate it says its fine but when i hover it still does it any ideas or could it be user error?

sctholson 01-14-2008 04:47 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
gtazzed1,
make sure all your trim settings on the transmitter are centered before you calibrate it, and 2) see if you can duplicate it on one of the other blade's. Either way, it really sounds like a callibration issue.
Scott H

gtazzed1 01-14-2008 05:24 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
It seems to only do it with the cp pro i tried it n the voyager and worked fine? vyager seems to alot easier to hover with to!

sctholson 01-14-2008 05:44 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
All helicopters, the bigger they are the easier to fly/hover, also the more expensive to fix when crashed.

I'll try my CPPro out on FSOne and let you know if the tail is "normal" or not.
Scott H

LearJet1 01-14-2008 09:45 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
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LearJet1 01-14-2008 09:49 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: sctholson

Learjet,
Here's what I have for you, I think you need to change the channel assignments. Click on the transmitter and copy it if you have not already done so, then click edit. This should bring you up to this image. This is the channel assignment selection. On my transmitter screen the throttle hold switch was channel 6 or second from the bottom and it says throttle hold switch in the blue channel name section. on that same line, move left to the very first column where it says source and then click on the axis on the same line as the throttle hold. Your task is to figure out which axis on the transmitter is throttle hold. I don't think you need to change the Input type where it says Controller axis, but probably the next field down. as you can tell from this image my DX6 controller has the throttle hold on Axis 4.
Give it a try and see what happens, let me know.
Scott H

I have gone thru all of the steps and still can't get the throttle hold to affect the TRex.
I have looked at the Voyager 50 E and get the same results. Looks like FS One has overlooked this function on the helis.
I remember trying one of the other helis and thought that the throttle hold was a supported function. I will try and find which heli that was.
Do you know if Realflight 3.5 or 4.0 supports throttle hold on their simulator? I have a friend that said he would loan me his RF 3.5 to try and find out. Hopefully you or someone else could answer that.

Thanks for your time in researching this short coming.

smooreace 01-15-2008 02:41 AM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Did you ever get FS one working?

sctholson 01-15-2008 07:39 AM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: LearJet1



ORIGINAL: sctholson

Learjet,
Here's what I have for you, I think you need to change the channel assignments. Click on the transmitter and copy it if you have not already done so, then click edit. This should bring you up to this image. This is the channel assignment selection. On my transmitter screen the throttle hold switch was channel 6 or second from the bottom and it says throttle hold switch in the blue channel name section. on that same line, move left to the very first column where it says source and then click on the axis on the same line as the throttle hold. Your task is to figure out which axis on the transmitter is throttle hold. I don't think you need to change the Input type where it says Controller axis, but probably the next field down. as you can tell from this image my DX6 controller has the throttle hold on Axis 4.
Give it a try and see what happens, let me know.
Scott H

I have gone thru all of the steps and still can't get the throttle hold to affect the TRex.
I have looked at the Voyager 50 E and get the same results. Looks like FS One has overlooked this function on the helis.
I remember trying one of the other helis and thought that the throttle hold was a supported function. I will try and find which heli that was.
Do you know if Realflight 3.5 or 4.0 supports throttle hold on their simulator? I have a friend that said he would loan me his RF 3.5 to try and find out. Hopefully you or someone else could answer that.

Thanks for your time in researching this short coming.
I know nothing about Realflight and have no other suggestions for you on the throttle hold, maybe a call to FSOne/Horizon support to get it straightened out.
Good luck
Scott H

gtazzed1 01-16-2008 05:29 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
I have both the trex and the cppro i understand there is a new pack out with the trex 450se but i cant get that till the end of the month is there a helicopter close to the trex 450se in the regular fsone without the add on pack? I'm still building my trex so havent actually flown it yet would like to sim something close so i can get started on practiceing till i get the add on.

sctholson 01-16-2008 07:52 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: gtazzed1

I have both the trex and the cppro i understand there is a new pack out with the trex 450se but i cant get that till the end of the month is there a helicopter close to the trex 450se in the regular fsone without the add on pack? I'm still building my trex so havent actually flown it yet would like to sim something close so i can get started on practiceing till i get the add on.
I don't think anything is close to the trex in the standard FSOne, but in order to get the heading hold gyro, you'll have to fly above the Blade CP. I think the voyager is probably a good choice, or another one of the gassers. Frankly as long as it is a heading hold gyro (and not tail motor driven) you will get a similar feel. Remember the larger the heli the easier to fly.

When you do get the Expansion pack feel free to try the modification settings I've posted earlier. The trex seemed to fly much more like my bird with the modified settings.
Happy flying
Scott H

philfun 01-16-2008 08:36 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
May be it's was already answer: is FS ONE works with VISTA ?
Thanks for your comments.

SederGraphics 01-16-2008 10:49 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Gtazzed1 - I did Scott's mod to the T-Rex in the Add-on pack and then did some final tweaks and it's very close to my T-Rex 450SE. It now flies close enough to really practice new 3D moves before I do them for real out at the field. Even took photos of my T-Rex canopy and applied them to the Graphics in FSOne and it looks exactly like my T-Rex with my Canomod canopy. Now my sim heli looks exactly like my real heli, which is nice getting used to inverted hover in all directions and inverted flight.

The FSOne add-on is worth it for the T-Rex. Just too bad that you have to apply the mods to make it fly like a real T-Rex.


Kraig

gtazzed1 01-17-2008 06:05 AM

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wow thanks all! thats pretty cool to be able to do that kraig will have to try it going to get the add on pay day!! cant wait!!!!

LearJet1 01-17-2008 05:02 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: sctholson

Learjet,
Here's what I have for you, I think you need to change the channel assignments. Click on the transmitter and copy it if you have not already done so, then click edit. This should bring you up to this image. This is the channel assignment selection. On my transmitter screen the throttle hold switch was channel 6 or second from the bottom and it says throttle hold switch in the blue channel name section. on that same line, move left to the very first column where it says source and then click on the axis on the same line as the throttle hold. Your task is to figure out which axis on the transmitter is throttle hold. I don't think you need to change the Input type where it says Controller axis, but probably the next field down. as you can tell from this image my DX6 controller has the throttle hold on Axis 4.
Give it a try and see what happens, let me know.
Scott H

I just finished a session with the FSOne tech support and have some information.
The throttle hold is not supported in the TRex 450. Support said that the Voyager 50 Nitro has it implemented.
MY question now is how did you get this throttle hold function to work with the DX6 controllerand Trex 450 model?
Next question is would you know how I could get this to work on my Futaba TC9AP transmitter and or Tacon One controller? Would that be a transmitter setup or is it inherent with the Trex450.
I will poke around with the Voyager 50 Nitro and see how it is done there. Ain't software fun?

sctholson 01-17-2008 07:53 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: LearJet1



ORIGINAL: sctholson

Learjet,
Here's what I have for you, I think you need to change the channel assignments. Click on the transmitter and copy it if you have not already done so, then click edit. This should bring you up to this image. This is the channel assignment selection. On my transmitter screen the throttle hold switch was channel 6 or second from the bottom and it says throttle hold switch in the blue channel name section. on that same line, move left to the very first column where it says source and then click on the axis on the same line as the throttle hold. Your task is to figure out which axis on the transmitter is throttle hold. I don't think you need to change the Input type where it says Controller axis, but probably the next field down. as you can tell from this image my DX6 controller has the throttle hold on Axis 4.
Give it a try and see what happens, let me know.
Scott H

I just finished a session with the FSOne tech support and have some information.
The throttle hold is not supported in the TRex 450. Support said that the Voyager 50 Nitro has it implemented.
MY question now is how did you get this throttle hold function to work with the DX6 controllerand Trex 450 model?
Next question is would you know how I could get this to work on my Futaba TC9AP transmitter and or Tacon One controller? Would that be a transmitter setup or is it inherent with the Trex450.
I will poke around with the Voyager 50 Nitro and see how it is done there. Ain't software fun?
Lear,
I definitely got my throttle hold to work on my DX6 on the Trex450. The way I did it is how I explained above, with the axis'. The most important point is to identify on your TC9AP which axis controls the throttle hold. Match that input to the axis that already is programed in the software but not working. After all, there are only 5 axis working on the Trex (as stock) Left stick right/left, left stick up/down, Right stick left/right, Right stick up/down and idle up. Any of these axis' can be moved from their default settings to others. However, it'd be silly to move the collective, or the elevator (equivalent) etc. to another channel. What you have to identify is which axis is the throttle hold on the TC9AP and then change the appropriate channel on the software.
I'll go back to the original trex and see if my throttle hold works on that heli to make sure I didn 't make another change. I'll let you know.
Scott H

sctholson 01-17-2008 08:13 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Lear,
I just checked the throttle hold on a stock Trex450 and it works fine. This is all about channel and axis assignments. I guess my suggestion for you at this point is to work backwards, eliminate all the axis' that already work fine, and experiment with those that don't work. Example: look at the top most line in the transmitter edit, what axis does yours show? Mine is axis 6 and it controls on of the basic 5 control surfaces, that means the Throttle hold on your TC9CAP isn't on Axis 6. I'd just keep going through each channel and after you exclude the 5 basic controls, work with what's left. I don't know how else I can help with this, since I don't have a TC9CAP.
Good luck
Scott H

gtazzed1 01-18-2008 03:24 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Couple of questions i have been useing fs one for a week now and luv it!! But why dont they have a type of scale for the helis like they do for the airoplanes, 2 why isnt there a propertional and gyro mix like on the rc helis. how about an add on that lets you gain points for a type of store so you can do upgrades of your own with the helis right now its what you see is what you get i would like to be able to upgrade parts on my favorite heli for instance gyros swashplates servos txs nd such. 3 how about the possibility to be able to chat in a split screen with another fs one owner that could help you to learn certain things. 3 what is the round knob for on the tx?

sctholson 01-18-2008 09:29 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: gtazzed1

Couple of questions i have been useing fs one for a week now and luv it!! But why dont they have a type of scale for the helis like they do for the airoplanes, 2 why isnt there a propertional and gyro mix like on the rc helis. how about an add on that lets you gain points for a type of store so you can do upgrades of your own with the helis right now its what you see is what you get i would like to be able to upgrade parts on my favorite heli for instance gyros swashplates servos txs nd such. 3 how about the possibility to be able to chat in a split screen with another fs one owner that could help you to learn certain things. 3 what is the round knob for on the tx?
Scaling helis; I've asked the same question,
Proportional and gyro mix; It's only a feature used on tail motor helis (I think) and I don't know why it it not there.
Add-on: Neat idea, maybe someone from FSOne is reading this... there are ways to modify the servos, and the gyro, but at the moment since instructions aren't provided by FSOne on how to work with these it is a try and crash the software repeatedly to figure out how to make these features work ( I gave up and decided to just fly it as it was given to us - with some of my earlier stated mod's)
Chat in split screen; not really for me
Round knob: I don't recall, but I'm pretty sure it had something to do with the idle up.
Scott H

Albatross1 01-19-2008 03:34 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
Hey Scott I posted this one for you elsewhere but since you were just here maybe you'll see it here sooner ...

Hey Scott,
Now we're talking. I'm glad you answered because I saw a thumbnail of your garage quite a while ago and it looked great. I thought that tripod head was mandatory but they're brutally expensive.

How did you do stitch the pics then? I've looked a bit at Autostitch's website but I guess I just assumed it needed that head. Did you just use a small 3 megapixel camera?...he says hopefully

Have you looked at adapting any of the public AFPD panos?

Thanks,
Dave

Albatross1 01-19-2008 03:40 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 
As far as the round knob goes, on planes, it's useful for dialing in flaps. i.e. so you don't just have 1 or 2 fixed flap positions. I don't know how you'd use it on helis.

If you're using your own transmitter with FS One, you might be able to assign the switches or knobs to whatever function you want (eg. you can with a Futaba T7 or JR 7202 or better) . You might also be able to do this with the FS One Tx the other way around by editing the aircraft to assign certain servos to certain channels (or whatever they call them in the editor, it's been a while and I'm getting old). I don't have the FS One Tx so I can't be sure though.

cheers,
Dave

sctholson 01-19-2008 04:01 PM

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 


ORIGINAL: Albatross1

Hey Scott I posted this one for you elsewhere but since you were just here maybe you'll see it here sooner ...

Hey Scott,
Now we're talking. I'm glad you answered because I saw a thumbnail of your garage quite a while ago and it looked great. I thought that tripod head was mandatory but they're brutally expensive.

How did you do stitch the pics then? I've looked a bit at Autostitch's website but I guess I just assumed it needed that head. Did you just use a small 3 megapixel camera?...he says hopefully

Have you looked at adapting any of the public AFPD panos?

Thanks,
Dave
Dave, I don't see any reason you shouldn't be able to use your 3 meg camera. The quality will be a bit fuzzy, but you may not even notice. I'll have to review the procedures and what software I used, cause it has been a while. I know that I used Auto****ch and I remember Autostitch got confused with pure white ceiling shots, so when you photograph make sure there there is plenty of information in each image for Auto****ch to grab on to. (I think a cloudless, blue sky would be very hard for auto****ch to work with. I think I took about 75 or more pictures to do the pano. After that my memory is too fuzzy. I'll have to get back into it and see what I can offer you. I know I used some time saving things that made the process really easy, but they are in my other computer and well (I'm supposed to be working now) I don't have that computer running.
Regarding any of the other panos, I have not looked at them, but if the pano is in a usable format, FSOne won't care where the raw material came from.
I sort of dropped the whole pano creation project since my computer was barely able to run FSOne, now I've switched pc's and I'm flying much more, which is what I really need to do. Now that I'm a better pilot, I haven't hovered in my real garage yet this winter, no reason to. Another thing, in FSOne I didn't like that I had little to no bounderies in the garage pano I created. The heli went out of site before I could correct it. Now I'm a better pilot I can control the heli better, and I don't feel the need to fly in any particular field. I do look for a field, in FSOne that has very little visual interference along the horizon. this gives me much better visibility of the heli.
Later
Scott H


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