All the Fly Eagle threads on RCU make me laugh. People continue to go on and on and on about how terrible they are, but while doing so, keep the posts about FEJ in the forefront.
So what have we learned about FEJ?

They provide a sub par product.
They do not provide any real form of customer service.
You will wait forever and a day for your product if you receive it at all.

And most importantly......

PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY THEM.

Whatever the reason is frankly it's irrelevant, maybe they think they'll get a good one, or that they can fix it, who cares, they'll buy it. FEJ's best advertising are these forum posts.

Ever hear the old adage "there is no such thing as bad publicity?"

Well, all these posts are doing is advertising the hell out of FEJ. Remember, we learned that even through all the shortcomings, PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY THEM.

Years ago, Marilyn Manson was scheduled to play a concert in Calgary Alberta. The city decided they did not want Manson in their city and banned the concert. When Marilyn Manson was asked how he felt about them banning him, his response was simply:

"I feel like I owe them something, since they've banned me, and talked about how terrible I am, my record sales, poster sales, video sales, clothing sales etc have jumped in record numbers. The people that love me are buying stuff in support, and the people that don't know me are buying stuff to find out what the hate is all about, I can't buy advertising like this".


Well, That's what is happening here. And yes, I realize that I've just put one more thread up about FEJ now, but MAYBE, just MAYBE, people will understand that if you want FEJ to go away, the best thing we can do, is not continue to keep their threads at the top of RCU and on the front page. Does it solve the problem, no, but nobody has come up with a solution to the problem yet either. It's easy to say don't buy the product, but PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY, so the less advertising done, the less people know that they exist. The magazine ad's and forum ad's will continue, but the constant barrage of posts do not help.

Just my 2 cents, if you still feel the need to continually talk about them, well, up to you, I don't read on here much anymore anyway, so have at it, but when more people buy the crap, and get screwed, just know, you're not really helping the problem.

I agree because as a new flyer to jets out of curiosity I looked at their website.

You can't be serious. Show business same as defective products? On what planet?

If your premise were true then Yugo and Triumph would be the dominant brands on this planet and if an American manufacturer made anything at all it would be the Corvair.

We do agree though that you've started still one more thread about how crappy FEJ is. Does this mean you have one on order? ;-)

High horse, yet again your spectacular grasp on the English language has left me with no idea what you are trying to say.

Bump

I disagree with you 100%. The more people know about how bad they are the less they will sell.

I disagree with you 100%. The more people know about how bad they are the less they will sell. Moreover, if this were the case then Jet Joe would be the most popular brand on the market.

One other thing lol, you are perpetuating your own theory by starting another FEJ thread that people can come on and bash FEJ. It's your right to do so, and I don't buy the argument. It's just a little calling the kettle black if you ask me.

I mentioned that I did realize the irony in posting this thread in my first post but thanks for pointing it out again. Maybe my opinion isn't right but it is my opinion. It's not like any of the other fej threads have stopped people buying them and getting ripped off.

As for Jet Joe, I remember ONE large thread that stayed current for a while and from time to time gets brought back from the Dead but there was no constant barrage of threads with new ones starting every other day. It faded away into the belly of rcu along with their sales.

I'm pretty certain that all of the negative publicity has caused them loss of sales. It was pretty obvious at the last large rally I attended when they were there. I was pretty close to their tent and the traffic around them was pretty scarce the whole show.

I don't think anyone has a problem with you voicing your opinion lol.

For celebrities, there is no such thing as bad publicity. But for a company, it is the end of the world.

FEJ sales have gone down amongst the people in the jet community.

Did you see how fast FeiBao responded to eastern's statement? Hell, FEJ has a bad reputation within their own culture & industry in China! And FeiBao wanted to make sure no one confused the two companies of being the same or making the same jet.

I'm sure FEJ sales are lacking. FEJ will never admit to that, and we will never see the proof of that until they close up shop one day ... and most likely without notice.
Give it time. It won't happen overnight, or in a few months. But it will happen.

Dude, I can't believe u started another FEJ thread! Do I need to drop off a jet at your shop to paint or something?

I just got back from 10 days in China. Business there is ALL about relationships - I totally get why FeiBao would want to disassociate themselves from FEJ who I'm sure they see as their competitor.

PaulD

LGM Graphix... sorry my friend but you are 100% wrong.....
I am Pattern flyer and i was just about to get my first jet (viperjet M) from FEJ. But after all these that i a reading i will not put any order to them.
Thanks to all these posts i protected from buing something that will bring me problems....

Thanks again Harris

I'm sure you are the norm verses all of this creating "more" business as the op says. I've gotten pm's from folks thanking me for posting the info I have on FEJ which prevented them from buying. As far as I'm concerned telling people about FEJ fraud is a public service announcement.

Andy,
Don't put words in my mouth, I never said they were "Creating more business", I said it's added advertising, nothing more.
Hard to voice opinions on this site when people read what they want to read and put words into others mouths.......

Heck, I'm not even a jet guy but I even know not to buy from these guys. Still, humans never cease to amaze me. Look how many people still smoke, or don't wear seat belts or believe the government is here to help. I think it was Einstein who said our ablity to be stupid is infinite.

10..9..8 lol

D'oh, I just bought another FEJ airplane!!!

At the same time as I was smoking a fag in the car with no belt on dreaming of going into politics

J, I respectfully disagree. I think in this case people are not buying a $15 cd or $10 poster (Marilyn Manson example). For the most part (though clearly people are still buying their stuff) people are being educated. Even if it puts a shred of doubt in their minds its worth it. I still don't really get why people wire the full price for a jet to china with nothing more than an internet promise...

It will take a bystander or even a pilot getting injured or killed on video where the aircraft can be seen failing in flight to end FEJ and possibly this part of the hobby. There would be a civil lawsuit and every FEJ thread on this site will admitted into evidence where it's overwhelming that they sold a defective product. If the pilot of that aircraft has any posts in any of those threads where he knew about the issues and flew it anyway there would be negligence as well. I'm not a lawyer so if anyone with legal experience wants to correct me, please do.

Given that most people in forums don't use their real name how would that work ?

Well I'm no computer wiz either but IP address would probably do it and if your verified to sell on RCU, they have everything. The point really was to say that there is really more at stake than people getting questionable products and service.

AB you are absolutely correct on both points. Annonimity on a forum is essentailly non-existent. And any pilot who posts here and flys an FEJ is opening himself up to a negligence suit.

ab and rg.. LOLROF!!!