FAA's Enforcable 400 Feet = Death to Jets?
01-03-2016, 08:46 AM
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- Fly below 400meters
- Never fly near other aircraft
- You mayfly your UAS beyond visual line of sight
- Offer to helpemergency responders
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- Occasionallyfly over stadiums, sports events or groups of people with
- out permission
- OK to fly under the influence of drugs or alcohol
- OK to fly within 5 miles of an airport without first contacting air traffic control and airport authorities
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01-03-2016, 04:15 PM
#280
Jets could Pylon race. Maybe Reno style closed course racing with FPV and Multiple Pylons.
Just asking?
http://airrace.org/portfolio-item/jet-class/
Just asking?
http://airrace.org/portfolio-item/jet-class/
01-03-2016, 06:40 PM
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I guess I am confused as to why a 400' ceiling would mean I can't fly my jets anymore? Seems the FAA took most of these "rules" from the AMA's guidelines anyways. I fly jets and a 400' ceiling isn't going to stop me at all. What about glider guys? There's a group that should be more worried about a 400' limit than anyone else. Seems to me it would be the end for glider, aero-tow and the likes.
Jason
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01-03-2016, 08:06 PM
#282
They can't do anything about it till I fly my model airplanes and I may never do so.
01-04-2016, 07:44 AM
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01-04-2016, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HoundDog 
Sincerely Good Luck with that ... Especially after shouting it for all the world and the FAA to hear. I guess the AMA is going to have to Triple the annual dues to cover all U protesters fines.
01-04-2016, 02:30 PM
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Glad to hear it! My flying got postponed until yesterday due to weather. The P-120 on the Bandit wouldn't start but I had a couple electrics that flew great. What was also great was to see a lot of cronies and crack jokes about how absurd this whole FAA thing is. Regards . . .
01-04-2016, 02:40 PM
#288
Sent my comments in to the site provided by 757 Driver. It's simple: FAA has no legal authority to regulate model aircraft as made clear in the FAA Modernization Act of 2012. That is the LAW and the FAA must abide by it. Pursuant to this law, the FAA has no authority to impose a registration system for model aircraft pilots or their aircraft. Pretty simple, really.
As a full-scale pilot, I object to the FAA diverting any resources away from its NAS safety mandate in this attempt to regulate model aircraft, when the air traffic system in our country is so overstressed and increasingly unsafe. Shortcomings in air traffic control have cause thousands of deaths over the last 8 decades, as compared to zero air passenger deaths attributable to model aircraft. Its seems pretty clear where the FAA should be focusing their efforts.
As a full-scale pilot, I object to the FAA diverting any resources away from its NAS safety mandate in this attempt to regulate model aircraft, when the air traffic system in our country is so overstressed and increasingly unsafe. Shortcomings in air traffic control have cause thousands of deaths over the last 8 decades, as compared to zero air passenger deaths attributable to model aircraft. Its seems pretty clear where the FAA should be focusing their efforts.
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01-04-2016, 03:04 PM
#289
Sent my comments in to the site provided by 757 Driver. It's simple: FAA has no legal authority to regulate model aircraft as made clear in the FAA Modernization Act of 2012. That is the LAW and the FAA must abide by it. Pursuant to this law, the FAA has no authority to impose a registration system for model aircraft pilots or their aircraft. Pretty simple, really.
As a full-scale pilot, I object to the FAA diverting any resources away from its NAS safety mandate in this attempt to regulate model aircraft, when the air traffic system in our country is so overstressed and increasingly unsafe. Shortcomings in air traffic control have cause thousands of deaths over the last 8 decades, as compared to zero air passenger deaths attributable to model aircraft. Its seems pretty clear where the FAA should be focusing their efforts.
As a full-scale pilot, I object to the FAA diverting any resources away from its NAS safety mandate in this attempt to regulate model aircraft, when the air traffic system in our country is so overstressed and increasingly unsafe. Shortcomings in air traffic control have cause thousands of deaths over the last 8 decades, as compared to zero air passenger deaths attributable to model aircraft. Its seems pretty clear where the FAA should be focusing their efforts.
01-04-2016, 05:27 PM
#290
So I registered today and this is what is printed on my Certificate. It clearly states a 400' limit. Also you had to agree to these rules as part of the registration processes.Additionally it says you need to have your Certificate Number clearly visible on the outside of the vehicle. In the e-mail we received from the AMA is stated the number could be inside. Now I don't know if we have special exemptions from these rules since we are using our models for recreation but I did not see anything on the FAA site that said otherwise.
01-04-2016, 05:36 PM
#291
This is interesting: After I registered it showed a picture of a drone and stated that the Certificate number had to be visible. However in the Q/A section, question 46 says the number can be in a battery compartment as long as no tools are needed to access it. That last part in consistent with what the AMA said. I would hate to get dinged on a technicality.
01-04-2016, 07:15 PM
#292
This is interesting: After I registered it showed a picture of a drone and stated that the Certificate number had to be visible. However in the Q/A section, question 46 says the number can be in a battery compartment as long as no tools are needed to access it. That last part in consistent with what the AMA said. I would hate to get dinged on a technicality.
A Friend of mine went to talk with the Tower Chief at one of the Local airports to discuss how they were dealing all this. He just laughed and basically said Go away.
01-04-2016, 08:08 PM
#293
I have been flying like I always do, And far as I can tell most others in my club are doing likewise. Yes I did register but I plan to enjoy the hobby as much as possible and not do anything to bring attention myself and not worry
about this FAA mess to much and I hope it sorts itself out.
about this FAA mess to much and I hope it sorts itself out.
01-04-2016, 10:36 PM
#294
So I registered today and this is what is printed on my Certificate. It clearly states a 400' limit. Also you had to agree to these rules as part of the registration processes.Additionally it says you need to have your Certificate Number clearly visible on the outside of the vehicle. In the e-mail we received from the AMA is stated the number could be inside. Now I don't know if we have special exemptions from these rules since we are using our models for recreation but I did not see anything on the FAA site that said otherwise.
ARRRh! Matey, them's just guidelines! (Pirate Smiley)
01-05-2016, 05:54 PM
#295
We're not the only one being "Squished" but the FAA.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/aviati...faa/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/aviati...faa/index.html
01-05-2016, 07:25 PM
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We're not the only one being "Squished" but the FAA.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/aviati...faa/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/aviati...faa/index.html
01-07-2016, 07:00 PM
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This one might have a hard time staying below 400 feet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...mart-taxi.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...mart-taxi.html
01-11-2016, 07:25 AM
#298
As a Canadian who does a lot of jet flying in the US, I've been following the FAA registration story with quite a bit of interest. On one of the Canadian RC forums, the following link was posted: http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
Of interest to this thread is:
"Q: Am I permitted to fly above 400 feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the federal registration website?A: Yes. AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which permits flights above 400 feet, are still allowed to fly and are protected by the Special Rule for Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. The federal registration box requiring agreement to only fly under 400 feet applies to individuals who are not operating within the safety guidelines of a community-based organization. We have been in discussions with the FAA about this point and the agency has indicted that it will be updating its website in the next week to make clear that this altitude restriction does not apply to AMA members."
Do read the rest of the blog entry. Looks to me like things are going in the right direction.
...jim
Of interest to this thread is:
"Q: Am I permitted to fly above 400 feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the federal registration website?A: Yes. AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which permits flights above 400 feet, are still allowed to fly and are protected by the Special Rule for Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. The federal registration box requiring agreement to only fly under 400 feet applies to individuals who are not operating within the safety guidelines of a community-based organization. We have been in discussions with the FAA about this point and the agency has indicted that it will be updating its website in the next week to make clear that this altitude restriction does not apply to AMA members."
Do read the rest of the blog entry. Looks to me like things are going in the right direction.
...jim
01-11-2016, 08:05 AM
#299
As a Canadian who does a lot of jet flying in the US, I've been following the FAA registration story with quite a bit of interest. On one of the Canadian RC forums, the following link was posted: http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
Of interest to this thread is:
"Q: Am I permitted to fly above 400 feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the federal registration website?A: Yes. AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which permits flights above 400 feet, are still allowed to fly and are protected by the Special Rule for Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. The federal registration box requiring agreement to only fly under 400 feet applies to individuals who are not operating within the safety guidelines of a community-based organization. We have been in discussions with the FAA about this point and the agency has indicted that it will be updating its website in the next week to make clear that this altitude restriction does not apply to AMA members."
Do read the rest of the blog entry. Looks to me like things are going in the right direction.
...jim
Of interest to this thread is:
"Q: Am I permitted to fly above 400 feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the federal registration website?A: Yes. AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which permits flights above 400 feet, are still allowed to fly and are protected by the Special Rule for Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. The federal registration box requiring agreement to only fly under 400 feet applies to individuals who are not operating within the safety guidelines of a community-based organization. We have been in discussions with the FAA about this point and the agency has indicted that it will be updating its website in the next week to make clear that this altitude restriction does not apply to AMA members."
Do read the rest of the blog entry. Looks to me like things are going in the right direction.
...jim
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01-11-2016, 08:09 AM
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Common sense must prevail no matter where you are flying or what you are flying. SEE AND AVOID FULL SIZE AIRCRAFT!