Wishing for a P70 sized sport jet that looks good, I can't be the only one.....
06-06-2017, 03:35 PM
#128
Yes Jeremy, I agree, you are quite weird for not liking your Bandit. (Please don't take offence, I mean this in a good way 
). I remember your thread on that Bandit.. Your original paint work on it was just gorgeous.
In the context of this thread, I purchased a Maverick last year which is in line for a restoration. I really wanted an Aggressor, but couldn't find a suitable one. I think the early BVM sport jets are really god looking planes. The Trim Spectre was also a great looking model..
Much better than the current crop of enormous and lightly loaded floaters..
). I remember your thread on that Bandit.. Your original paint work on it was just gorgeous. In the context of this thread, I purchased a Maverick last year which is in line for a restoration. I really wanted an Aggressor, but couldn't find a suitable one. I think the early BVM sport jets are really god looking planes. The Trim Spectre was also a great looking model..
Much better than the current crop of enormous and lightly loaded floaters..
06-07-2017, 07:52 AM
#131
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I agree for the most part but there are a bunch of K45's and K60's being sold. Lot's of Jetsmunt VT80's out there. and if the Jetsmunt 70 ever comes out it is another small engine. Seems like with all the engine options there should be more planes for them other than foamies.
06-07-2017, 07:58 AM
#132
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My K45 size jet fits in the the back of my SUV, my pickup, or my trailer assembled. It is really nice to stop by the field on the way home from work, be flying a jet in about 5 minutes. Yesterday was actually waiting for the engine to finish cool down before I could load it up in the trailer. Last flight shut down to driving off was 3 minutes. I love the way the Preceptor flies but being all balsa, cheap landing gear, etc. it is showing wear quicker than I would like. Would be nice to have a decent quality plane this size that will last longer than a a cheap arf or foamy.
06-07-2017, 08:59 AM
#134
I don't think there is a more precise flying airplane out there than a bandit. The barf is designed off of the super bandit with the larger wing but has no airbrake.
My first bandit (super balsa bandit) had a P70 in it and it was really fast!
The only difference about a bandit flight, is the landing. It likes to be nose level/to down on approach. As long as I've got a jet breathing bone in my body, I'll have a bandit in my arsenal.
And again, it's hard to keep a bandit under $10k.
My first bandit (super balsa bandit) had a P70 in it and it was really fast!
The only difference about a bandit flight, is the landing. It likes to be nose level/to down on approach. As long as I've got a jet breathing bone in my body, I'll have a bandit in my arsenal.
And again, it's hard to keep a bandit under $10k.
06-07-2017, 09:05 AM
#136
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If I had a less than 100 I'd get a 1.7 T-One from Pacific. As good as the 2.2 flies the 1.7 has to fly good too
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06-07-2017, 10:57 AM
#137
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My K45 size jet fits in the the back of my SUV, my pickup, or my trailer assembled. It is really nice to stop by the field on the way home from work, be flying a jet in about 5 minutes. Yesterday was actually waiting for the engine to finish cool down before I could load it up in the trailer. Last flight shut down to driving off was 3 minutes. I love the way the Preceptor flies but being all balsa, cheap landing gear, etc. it is showing wear quicker than I would like. Would be nice to have a decent quality plane this size that will last longer than a a cheap arf or foamy.
06-07-2017, 03:23 PM
#139
06-07-2017, 04:19 PM
#140
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I agree for the most part but there are a bunch of K45's and K60's being sold. Lot's of Jetsmunt VT80's out there. and if the Jetsmunt 70 ever comes out it is another small engine. Seems like with all the engine options there should be more planes for them other than foamies.
JHH - F-4, A-4
Black Horse - L-39, BAE Hawk
Jet Teng - 1.7 Viper, XXX
Phoenix Model - perceptor
SkyEmaster - F-15, F-18, Viper, F-9F
Sebart - Mini Avanti,
06-07-2017, 08:40 PM
#142
I don't think there is a more precise flying airplane out there than a bandit. The barf is designed off of the super bandit with the larger wing but has no airbrake.
My first bandit (super balsa bandit) had a P70 in it and it was really fast!
The only difference about a bandit flight, is the landing. It likes to be nose level/to down on approach. As long as I've got a jet breathing bone in my body, I'll have a bandit in my arsenal.
And again, it's hard to keep a bandit under $10k.
My first bandit (super balsa bandit) had a P70 in it and it was really fast!
The only difference about a bandit flight, is the landing. It likes to be nose level/to down on approach. As long as I've got a jet breathing bone in my body, I'll have a bandit in my arsenal.
And again, it's hard to keep a bandit under $10k.
06-07-2017, 10:54 PM
#144
So many folks seem to think that as soon as an aircraft touches down it has stopped flying and they feel the need to release the control inputs.
Bouncy, Bouncy, Bounce, Broke
06-07-2017, 11:46 PM
#145
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I didn't put a link on this thread to the flying of the Evo Sting, excuse it if you have already seen it. This plane flies beautifully on between 3.2 Kg thrust (with my own Sprite turbine) and 8 Kg! landing speeds are ridiculously slow as you can see. Still waiting on my Merlin 70 which I hope will power it eventually. Looking for another small plane, probably go for a Me 163.
John
John
06-08-2017, 08:31 AM
#146
Just to re-enforce what Doug said: Obviously your technique was wrong. Like most jets they are not trimmed for the final stages of the approach. WHY, because as you slow down you need to hang on the elevator in order to maintain the correct attitude - and then, you still need to continue to apply up elevator (whilst holding off in the flare), in order to achieve a close to stall condition at touchdown. This again will ensure the nose is in the correct attitude allowing the main wheels to touch down first. Another critical technique is to keep holding the nose off until the reduction in airspeed (and lift), causes the attitude and nose to decrease, and finally nose wheel touchdown. Only then, when you are close to taxi speed, should you release up elevator.
So many folks seem to think that as soon as an aircraft touches down it has stopped flying and they feel the need to release the control inputs.
Bouncy, Bouncy, Bounce, Broke
So many folks seem to think that as soon as an aircraft touches down it has stopped flying and they feel the need to release the control inputs.
Bouncy, Bouncy, Bounce, Broke
06-08-2017, 08:53 AM
#147
My technique was fine. I never once bounced it. The landing technique you describe is exactly how I have to land my raptor and firebird as well. Don't get me wrong I never said the bandit was a bad jet, I only said I didn't like it. We don't all have to like the same airplane.
06-08-2017, 09:44 AM
#148
I took a Maverick and converted from DF to turbine with a P60. The issue of having a smaller jet is the wing loading, as everyone is talking about on here. I guess that is why the manufactures are coming out with foamie turbines. On the Maverick, I still have a set of saddle tanks that I will sell. The guy I sold the jet converted it to electric. Heck of a life for the airframe.
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06-08-2017, 09:52 AM
#149
I took a Maverick and converted from DF to turbine with a P60. The issue of having a smaller jet is the wing loading, as everyone is talking about on here. I guess that is why the manufactures are coming out with foamie turbines. On the Maverick, I still have a set of saddle tanks that I will sell. The guy I sold the jet converted it to electric. Heck of a life for the airframe.
06-08-2017, 11:55 PM
#150
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My technique was fine. I never once bounced it. The landing technique you describe is exactly how I have to land my raptor and firebird as well. Don't get me wrong I never said the bandit was a bad jet, I only said I didn't like it. I know many bandit pilots who have commented on the landing of a bandit and how even after hundreds of flights they still get bit once in a while. I was disappointed in the bandit. That doesn't mean it's a bad jet. It just wasn't for me. The arf is probably a better all around jet than the super bandit (mine was the composite) but it's still a very expensive airplane. I have an old bobcat xl that I really enjoy, I have a kingcat that I'm amazed I haven't blown the wings off of, so it's not like I'm anti bvm. I even just picked up an old original viper. I just really didn't like the bandit and that's ok. We don't all have to like the same airplane.
